hi Twenny P, good that u r in profit like u say "has to be good" u,ve got 2 remember that there a lot of cash players especially, who would like to be able to say that! so,if i were u i,d just stick with it the only thing with dym,s is the more games you are able to play in any one session the more chance of winning you have,i believe. so again i can,t stress enough the importance of multi-tableing. if u r playing either 1 or 2 tables,try playing 3 then 4, you soon get used 2 it and i think you will see an overall improvement. as 4 bounty hunter,s not sure,i personally don,t like them but my brother loves them and i know he has had some good results from them. could u build a better/bigger bank roll from them? why not try playing a few low stake ones and see how you get on, i,d be interested. bye 4 now devon Posted by devonfish5
Cheers Devon,
Think i'll stick to single games for now... Maybe if i get further in to the profit i'll try the multi table way, but sounds too much hard work for now.. lol
May try a week on the Bounty's in Jan, see how that goes.
Tonights results: won at 60p / lost at 60p / won 2 at 60p / won 2 at £1.15
Quit whilst i was in good form - Last game was long and hard, but bit of fun banter whilst playing helped keep us sane! lol...
Am learning to dack hands that i used to try and chase with.. This I feel is the best improvement in my game. Still need to think on my betting size and tighten a touch more, but it's going in the right direction.
And you just can't win in Poker some times? Even Aces against 7 9 off suit loses an All In when the board goes 10 8 K Ace 6.... Poker! hey!!
Ok so, Bank Roll info: Since started (7th December) - Deposits £40 - Down -£9.25
Since £25 deposit (15th December) - UP £5.60
So will continue at the £1.15 stake whilst have over 25 buy ins
4 wins in a row is best performance so far, and longing to get 5 and then 6, 7, maybe even 10? LOL... 12 wins should just about break me even overall (but 12 wins and no loses would be a miracle!!)
My first post and new to Sky Poker and online poker in general! So just been getting a feel for things around here at the moment. I've been playing live poker for about 2 years and thought I'd have a dabble with the whole online game to see if it's for me or not. After a few frustrations with the Cash games I decided to have a go with the Sit'n'Gos and started playing the DYM's, after a bit of success I think these suit the game I've learnt playing live the most.
Currently I've played 9 DYM's and won 7, the two I lost were insignificant 0.30p games where I first tried them out, the rest are either 1.15 or 2.25 games. It's only a small number of games but if I can keep that ratio up then that'll be great
Hi all, My first post and new to Sky Poker and online poker in general! So just been getting a feel for things around here at the moment. I've been playing live poker for about 2 years and thought I'd have a dabble with the whole online game to see if it's for me or not. After a few frustrations with the Cash games I decided to have a go with the Sit'n'Gos and started playing the DYM's, after a bit of success I think these suit the game I've learnt playing live the most. Currently I've played 9 DYM's and won 7, the two I lost were insignificant 0.30p games where I first tried them out, the rest are either 1.15 or 2.25 games. It's only a small number of games but if I can keep that ratio up then that'll be great Onwards and upwards as they say.... Posted by DeaDFl0P
Welcome Deadflop..
I'll remember to play my best if I meet you on the tables... lol
hi Twenny P you still trying your luck on the £3.30 tables i see. as i noticed you on my table tonight. only problem with that is if you lose,as you did earlier you then have to win 4 games in a row @ £1.15 level and that still only put you 10p up. so my advice is to try and play just the one level even though it is very tempting to play higher. try and beat the £1.15 level move up to £2.25 then £3.30 b/roll management and dicipline is so important "just saying" devon Posted by devonfish5
Hey Devon, I'd actually gone £3.30 in error.. went to step up to £2.15 and the screen must of changed as I clicked the game tag.. didn't spot the higher stake level till saw you playing.. lol
And just happened to run bad in the game (was texting and playing at same time, not watching properly.)
Won 2 x £2.25 games straight afterwards.
Tonight I'm going to live dangerous - registered in to the Fantasy Football free roller, try my new skills at a small tourney to try and cash some monies... lol
fair enough,let you off there then, easily done,i,ve done it myself.
you know i,m only trying to help, don,t mean to sound like i am moaning all the time. just don,t want to see you losing all your money, that,s all.....lol
Got wound up in first one and ended up tilting a bad couple of hands.. Surfice to say... Boom, bye bye...
Next one tried again, was doing well, and built a decent chip stack.. 13,000 chips+ Think was about 45th off 187 players at the time, so imo heading strong..
Then level 9 or 10 i think (150/300) pair of J's on a quite open and easy table..
in BB spot - decided to call an All In for 9,700 chips.. (yes I know a complete mad thing to do, should of folded!)
For him to show Q's... (both red)
Flop drops - 6s 4s 6c (I hold Js with Jh)
Turn decides to drop a spade.... Hmmm, you may think, but it's only a bleeding Queen!!
River? River, drop me a spade!!! come on I think, you have to be lucky sometimes!!! But think all my luck had been used up for today...
4 of hearts.....
few hands later had to shove a J 9 suited with last 2,000 chips or so and lost hand pair of J's to Q's (again!!!)
Hense to say I hate Jacks now and will never play them again... ha ha..
In the mean time, I decided to take a look at the Bounty Hunter game for a test. Played 50p stake game took 3 heads in the game and came 2nd after a difficult Heads Up session...
Think I need to practice my heads up game before I run a challenge on the BH's
But I came out with 72p profit on the game, so better result in returns than DYM..
Now going to have a few more BH's and use DYM's as a steady flow to keep a roll on banked wins..
Shame I can't hold two bank balances on Sky to keep a seperate tally of the 2 games, but I'll try work a spreadsheet out to record it all..
So, in terms of this Blog - DYM Trial - for just under a month, and from not having a good game plan/style initially, I managed to turn an overall break even (would of been small profit if Devon hadn't took me out of the £3.30 game last night!! - lol)
90 games - 50 wins - 40 loses
Majority of loses in the early days.
Recently had 7 straight wins (all be it over 2 days) but if I could achieve that every weekend next year I'll be a happy bunny... Rarely losing 2 games in a row and before today, of 20 games played, only 5 loses - I feel is a good result..
Thank you for reading, making comments, and advice..
May 2012 bring us all plenty of Run Goods and good luck to everyone..
Not had chance to play much since December yet, only couple games a night since reset the challenge.
Going to continue on the DYM strategy for now, but will play the odd MTT when feel up to it..
So here's the initial update:
Total Games
5
Deposits
£20.16
per Game
Wins
3
Profit/Loss
£0.25
£0.05
Loses
2
1%
Date & Time
Product
Description
Amount
Held Funds
03 Jan '12 at 00:00
Opening
Starting Funds
£20.16
04 Jan '12 at 19:57
Poker
Double Your Money
£0.85
£0.00
04 Jan '12 at 21:27
Poker
Double Your Money
£0.85
£0.00
05 Jan '12 at 20:09
Poker
Double Your Money
-£1.15
£0.00
05 Jan '12 at 20:25
Poker
Double Your Money
-£1.15
£0.00
05 Jan '12 at 21:58
Poker
Double Your Money
£0.85
£0.00
Not great - Only 5 games played but at least still in positive position.
Tonight I was too distracted and shouldn't of played as was trying to do other stuff at same time.
Not sure when I'll get a run at games, as i'm busy most of this weekend.
January's aim is to win 70% of games minimum (now that's a challenge)
Also need to be structured to stick to the £1.15 stake level until I'm up to 15 buy ins at £2.25 That means I need 20 positive wins
(that is only based on current starting funds - I have budgeted to deposit an extra £20-£30 on 15th) Part if this will be funds towards MTT's but I am also entering any Freerolls available and hope to one day cash in one to help bank roll further MTT's.
Oh, and I discovered I simply can't multi table... My head was all over the shop over the new year trying to play 2 games... bleep... bleep bleep.. bleep.. screen jump, screen freeze, arrghhh.. what table am I on? who's played what? What level am I on? Pair Kings, yes, Raise.. Oh ****, that was other table hand... DOH!!
That's a skill in it's self... 2-3 hours single tabling will do me thank you very much..
Feel free to say hello at the table if you pop by...
TwennyP
EDIT: Have worked out, if I achieve the win rate of 70/100 that's £25.00 profit for 100 games average 5 games a session would mean 20 days (but will aim for 10 games on weekend nights.) So should in a month be able to make this just as long as I am 70% positive.
I lost a bit in cash games and then went down to play the 60p DYM's and then had a bad run in those last week. Last week really wasn't my week at all.
I've since reloaded my BR so have just shy of £25 to play with so I might go and hit the £1.15 DYM's again, I started out well in those and hopefully I've left last weeks bad streak behind me.
I'll be following this thread and might post some updates here of my own.
Oh and if I spot you on a table I'll be sure to wave.
Oh one thing, do you find playing DYM's at different times of day affects your win/lose ratio? I ask since my initial success came earlier on in the day and my bad streak mostly occured late evening.
Good Luck TwennyP I lost a bit in cash games and then went down to play the 60p DYM's and then had a bad run in those last week. Last week really wasn't my week at all. I've since reloaded my BR so have just shy of £25 to play with so I might go and hit the £1.15 DYM's again, I started out well in those and hopefully I've left last weeks bad streak behind me. I'll be following this thread and might post some updates here of my own. Oh and if I spot you on a table I'll be sure to wave. Oh one thing, do you find playing DYM's at different times of day affects your win/lose ratio? I ask since my initial success came earlier on in the day and my bad streak mostly occured late evening. DF Posted by DeaDFl0P
Hi DeadFlop,
Feel free to add you own updates anytime..
I've only ever played evening games and possible afternoon weekends so can't say about the effects time of day have.
But during the holiday week I did play a few daytime games, and I would say there may have been a few easier targets around..
I play my VERY tight game to begin with until I know the table players dynamics, and then sometimes loosen up earlier than normal, but as I've improved my game, i've found it only comes down to hole cards dealt that slows me down (some times go 5 levels with out a decent hand to play with)..
If This Spreadsheet works? . . . Posted by Twenny_P
The core results data is there, it's just how you summarise and analyse it? Personally I'd keep the bankroll and deposits/withdrawals data seperate, so what you're working with is purely the results of your game play (although there's no reason why they can't be combined as you've done - they are of course related - it just puts a red herring across things).
I think you also need to crunch within the summaries at the top (mine are always at the bottom as I tend to work down a page):
Total amount bet, Total buy-in amount paid out.
From which you can determine:
Your win/loss rate as a %age of the total wagered (not just ££s), Your average buy-in fee as a %age of the total wagered (should be between 15%-20%?)
Might also be worth recording at what point you bombed out as well - if the majority of your losses were on the bubble then that's telling you something.
Comments
Think i'll stick to single games for now...
Maybe if i get further in to the profit i'll try the multi table way, but sounds too much hard work for now.. lol
May try a week on the Bounty's in Jan, see how that goes.
See you at a table sometime..
Twenny
i,ve just finnished another session
at £3.30 level
won 18 lost 5
profit £32.10
that,s playing 6 tables for just about 3 hours!
last night won 15 lost 8
profit £14.10
what else can i say .....
you get out what you put in
and believe me,i,ve put in alot of hours
and finally i am getting some reward!
anyway,keep at it
see you soon
the devonfish
Total since started:
Played 70
Won: 36
Lost: 34
Finally in positive wins!!!
Since £25 deposit:
Played 37 - Won 23 - Lost 14
Tonights results: won at 60p / lost at 60p / won 2 at 60p / won 2 at £1.15
Quit whilst i was in good form - Last game was long and hard, but bit of fun banter whilst playing helped keep us sane! lol...
Am learning to dack hands that i used to try and chase with.. This I feel is the best improvement in my game.
Still need to think on my betting size and tighten a touch more, but it's going in the right direction.
And you just can't win in Poker some times? Even Aces against 7 9 off suit loses an All In when the board goes 10 8 K Ace 6.... Poker! hey!!
Ok so, Bank Roll info:
Since started (7th December) - Deposits £40 - Down -£9.25
Since £25 deposit (15th December) - UP £5.60
So will continue at the £1.15 stake whilst have over 25 buy ins
4 wins in a row is best performance so far, and longing to get 5 and then 6, 7, maybe even 10? LOL...
12 wins should just about break me even overall (but 12 wins and no loses would be a miracle!!)
Positive Thinking - Twenny Pence
My first post and new to Sky Poker and online poker in general! So just been getting a feel for things around here at the moment.
I've been playing live poker for about 2 years and thought I'd have a dabble with the whole online game to see if it's for me or not.
After a few frustrations with the Cash games I decided to have a go with the Sit'n'Gos and started playing the DYM's, after a bit of success I think these suit the game I've learnt playing live the most.
Currently I've played 9 DYM's and won 7, the two I lost were insignificant 0.30p games where I first tried them out, the rest are either 1.15 or 2.25 games.
It's only a small number of games but if I can keep that ratio up then that'll be great
Onwards and upwards as they say....
I'll remember to play my best if I meet you on the tables... lol
Well done so far..
Twenny.
Losing only 3..
Making a £5.90 profit in those 16 games..
Loving the £1.15 stake level games.
Overall since start of blog:
Finally made profit on the full starting deposits:
Will continue onwards and hopefully now be able to build that Bank Roll...
Cheers
Twenny
you still trying your luck on the £3.30 tables i see.
as i noticed you on my table tonight.
only problem with that is
if you lose,as you did earlier
you then have to win 4 games in a row @ £1.15 level
and that still only put you 10p up.
so my advice is to try and play just the one level
even though it is very tempting to play higher.
try and beat the £1.15 level
move up to £2.25
then £3.30
b/roll management and dicipline is so important
"just saying"
devon
I'd actually gone £3.30 in error.. went to step up to £2.15 and the screen must of changed as I clicked the game tag.. didn't spot the higher stake level till saw you playing.. lol
And just happened to run bad in the game (was texting and playing at same time, not watching properly.)
Won 2 x £2.25 games straight afterwards.
Tonight I'm going to live dangerous - registered in to the Fantasy Football free roller, try my new skills at a small tourney to try and cash some monies... lol
All the best..
Twenny
fair enough,let you off there then,
easily done,i,ve done it myself.
you know i,m only trying to help,
don,t mean to sound like i am moaning
all the time.
just don,t want to see you losing all your money,
that,s all.....lol
best wishes and run well in 2012!
devon
Got wound up in first one and ended up tilting a bad couple of hands..
Surfice to say... Boom, bye bye...
Next one tried again, was doing well, and built a decent chip stack.. 13,000 chips+
Think was about 45th off 187 players at the time, so imo heading strong..
Then level 9 or 10 i think (150/300) pair of J's on a quite open and easy table..
in BB spot - decided to call an All In for 9,700 chips..
(yes I know a complete mad thing to do, should of folded!)
For him to show Q's... (both red)
Flop drops - 6s 4s 6c (I hold Js with Jh)
Turn decides to drop a spade.... Hmmm, you may think, but it's only a bleeding Queen!!
River? River, drop me a spade!!! come on I think, you have to be lucky sometimes!!!
But think all my luck had been used up for today...
4 of hearts.....
few hands later had to shove a J 9 suited with last 2,000 chips or so and lost hand pair of J's to Q's (again!!!)
Hense to say I hate Jacks now and will never play them again... ha ha..
In the mean time, I decided to take a look at the Bounty Hunter game for a test.
Played 50p stake game took 3 heads in the game and came 2nd after a difficult Heads Up session...
Think I need to practice my heads up game before I run a challenge on the BH's
But I came out with 72p profit on the game, so better result in returns than DYM..
Now going to have a few more BH's and use DYM's as a steady flow to keep a roll on banked wins..
Shame I can't hold two bank balances on Sky to keep a seperate tally of the 2 games, but I'll try work a spreadsheet out to record it all..
So, in terms of this Blog - DYM Trial - for just under a month, and from not having a good game plan/style initially, I managed to turn an overall break even
(would of been small profit if Devon hadn't took me out of the £3.30 game last night!! - lol)
90 games - 50 wins - 40 loses
Majority of loses in the early days.
Recently had 7 straight wins (all be it over 2 days) but if I could achieve that every weekend next year I'll be a happy bunny...
Rarely losing 2 games in a row and before today, of 20 games played, only 5 loses - I feel is a good result..
Thank you for reading, making comments, and advice..
May 2012 bring us all plenty of Run Goods and good luck to everyone..
All the best
Twenny P
Hi all,
Had a try at 'Treble Your Money' last night...
OMG, what a horrible game!
So slow - 9 to the table, everyone limping and re-raising whatever...
I just couldn't get on with it..
Went out in 8th spot!!!
Lost the plot cause didn't like it and was opening my range too much..
Will not play them again.
Am looking into some MTT's to change up the play a little.
I know it won't happen, but looking for that quick big win! ha ha..
Anyone have any tips on which MTT's to go for? (small stakes only)
and in where I might find lots of easy targets!! lol
New month a new start... This month is about mixing up my ability to gain further skills
DYM i feel i have mastered (still need to improve more,) but for now need the next stage to my game..
Cheers
Twenny
2 and half hours play, but a good return and a good game..
Saw some real bad rivers (luckily, only one against me)
Got a Free Roller at 6 - so lets see how I manage in that..
May try a few more small MTT's through the month...
Don't like the big field games, feel they need a much better game than I hold at present..
That's all for now..
Twenny
keep it going
devon
Not had chance to play much since December yet, only couple games a night since reset the challenge.
Going to continue on the DYM strategy for now, but will play the odd MTT when feel up to it..
So here's the initial update:
Tonight I was too distracted and shouldn't of played as was trying to do other stuff at same time.
Not sure when I'll get a run at games, as i'm busy most of this weekend.
January's aim is to win 70% of games minimum (now that's a challenge)
Also need to be structured to stick to the £1.15 stake level until I'm up to 15 buy ins at £2.25
That means I need 20 positive wins
(that is only based on current starting funds - I have budgeted to deposit an extra £20-£30 on 15th)
Part if this will be funds towards MTT's but I am also entering any Freerolls available and hope to one day cash in one to help bank roll further MTT's.
Oh, and I discovered I simply can't multi table... My head was all over the shop over the new year trying to play 2 games... bleep... bleep bleep.. bleep.. screen jump, screen freeze, arrghhh.. what table am I on? who's played what? What level am I on? Pair Kings, yes, Raise.. Oh ****, that was other table hand... DOH!!
That's a skill in it's self... 2-3 hours single tabling will do me thank you very much..
Feel free to say hello at the table if you pop by...
TwennyP
EDIT: Have worked out, if I achieve the win rate of 70/100 that's £25.00 profit for 100 games
average 5 games a session would mean 20 days (but will aim for 10 games on weekend nights.)
So should in a month be able to make this just as long as I am 70% positive.
I lost a bit in cash games and then went down to play the 60p DYM's and then had a bad run in those last week. Last week really wasn't my week at all.
I've since reloaded my BR so have just shy of £25 to play with so I might go and hit the £1.15 DYM's again, I started out well in those and hopefully I've left last weeks bad streak behind me.
I'll be following this thread and might post some updates here of my own.
Oh and if I spot you on a table I'll be sure to wave.
Oh one thing, do you find playing DYM's at different times of day affects your win/lose ratio?
I ask since my initial success came earlier on in the day and my bad streak mostly occured late evening.
DF
Feel free to add you own updates anytime..
I've only ever played evening games and possible afternoon weekends so can't say about the effects time of day have.
But during the holiday week I did play a few daytime games, and I would say there may have been a few easier targets around..
I play my VERY tight game to begin with until I know the table players dynamics, and then sometimes loosen up earlier than normal, but as I've improved my game, i've found it only comes down to hole cards dealt that slows me down (some times go 5 levels with out a decent hand to play with)..
See you at the tables..
TwennyP
I think you also need to crunch within the summaries at the top (mine are always at the bottom as I tend to work down a page):
Total amount bet,
Total buy-in amount paid out.
From which you can determine:
Your win/loss rate as a %age of the total wagered (not just ££s),
Your average buy-in fee as a %age of the total wagered (should be between 15%-20%?)
Might also be worth recording at what point you bombed out as well - if the majority of your losses were on the bubble then that's telling you something.
Good luck.
I'll try to take that on board..
I was thinking of recording details on where I finish any way, and as you say maybe the hand that kills me detailed as a record..
Will look at noting it in my records spreadsheet anyway..
TwennyP
Stats as follows:
06/01/2012
£1.15
2
£2.00
£0.85
Total Games: 11
Wins: 8
Losses: 3
Win Percentage: 72.72%
Not a bad start, just wish I had more time to play :-)
Hopefully I can keep the Win Percentage above 70%
DF