not designed to tilt you dude , just fact. of coarse theres some crass play, i should know i do it quite regularly but on the whole the standard is better and you cant deny that. better hands are camouflaged poorer hands are played better fact. MOST people have earnt the right to play higher levels hence the play is on the whole better. come on dude even you say there is a big difference in nl10 to nl4 why would you possibly think nl30 is worse than that! Posted by pod1
Well it should be as it's over 7x the BI of NL4 and most people don't start out at NL30 unless thy have money to burn or start off knowing EVERYTHING about the game which is hard having never played it....
I didn't say it was worse, just that certain plays at NL30 and even higher are similar to NL4, people open limping UTG with junk for example.
In Response to Re: Fold QQ pre flop at NL8? : Well it should be as it's over 7x the BI of NL4 and most people don't start out at NL30 unless thy have money to burn or start off knowing EVERYTHING about the game which is hard having never played it.... I didn't say it was worse, just that certain plays at NL30 and even higher are similar to NL4, people open limping UTG with junk for example. Posted by Dudeskin8
Goes without saying there are bad players at all levels relatively speaking.
so an unknown at 8nl only shows up with KK+,AK? Give him JJ or about 8 more combos of Ax and its call. People definitely spew enough to call it off imo
you better be sure he flats pretty wide and shoves pretty narrow before you 3b/f this. Otherwise either 3b/c or flat the initial raise
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You still have QQ )
The only question is what is oppo 4 bet shoving !
Think higher up it would just be a 4 bet raise and not a shove
Shove essentially could be anything 88+ AK
And we go full circle, need solid reads here to fold
player dependant obviously but there some players at NL8 that will happily do this with mid prs !
you better be sure he flats pretty wide and shoves pretty narrow before you 3b/f this. Otherwise either 3b/c or flat the initial raise