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DYM COLLUSION?

CFC302CFC302 Member Posts: 9
edited January 2012 in Poker Chat
Does anybody else think that when your on a dym table and you happen to have 2 or 3 "DYM LEGENDS" there too, its just when your down to the last 4, cos they are some sort of "TEAM" they seem to fold to each other to get the other person out...ITS DISGUSTING
Chat banned so cant chat at the tables... thanks

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  • debdobs_67debdobs_67 Member Posts: 3,615
    edited January 2012
    I hope not mate
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  • CFC302CFC302 Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2012
    it so seems that way, just wanted to see if anyone else thought the same thing
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,826
    edited January 2012

    Given the Thread title, it's kinda hard to see how you came to be chat-banned at the Tables, Sir......

    If you think players are acting improperly, you should report them to Customer Care, that is your ABSOLUTE DUTY as a poker player. Probably be handy to include a bit of evidence, too.

    Coming on the Forum to just lob insults at them ain't gonna achieve anything.
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited January 2012
    as tikay says this post wont acheive anything and you have gone about it the wrong way

    i do howeva agree that its prob not 2 ethical to have a 'DYM team', esp on such a small site where u come across the same players time and time again
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  • CFC302CFC302 Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2012
    ok i appolagise for the language, but it doesnt seem right to me....
    i shall just pick and choose more carefully now when i sit at a table
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,826
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    as tikay says this post wont acheive anything and you have gone about it the wrong way i do howeva agree that its prob not 2 ethical to have a 'DYM team', esp on such a small site where u come across the same players time and time again
    Posted by SHANXTA
    It would not be "unethical" at all - it would be outright cheationg/collusion.

    Trouble is, it's easy  - very easy - to throw out these accusations (usually after losing...) but it needs more than that to make the case - if any EVIDENCE is available, it should be sent to Customer Care.

    If there is no evidence, well.....
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  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited January 2012
    I suspect that the players in a DYM Team would generally know how to play the bubble in these DYMs and thus they would all follow the same style.

    I also think that advertising a DYM Team on a rather small site is probably a bit silly.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,826
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    ok i appolagise for the language, but it doesnt seem right to me.... i shall just pick and choose more carefully now when i sit at a table
    Posted by CFC302
    Thank you, next case.

    Have you presented the evidence to Customer Care?

    Please note, just because some guys happen to play a lot of DYM's, & are very successful, that does not mean they are colluding. It might mean they understand the game better than you or me.....
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  • ryderrooryderroo Member Posts: 119
    edited January 2012
    3 DYM legends, one unknown, not rocket science they are not going get involved with each other unless absolutly nessessary, no conspiracy just plain old common sense tis why these guys win!! small piece of advise from a recreational player and please dont be offended, read john conners ABC of DYMs and gl m8
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  • bigflop1bigflop1 Member Posts: 1,034
    edited January 2012
    lol.. your chat banned and call your thread bellends :)
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  • CFC302CFC302 Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2012
    your not really gonna get the full picture unless your sitting at alot of these tables are you?
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  • CFC302CFC302 Member Posts: 9
    edited January 2012
    Thank you ryder, at least someone is on my wavelength.... will give it a read.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,826
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    3 DYM legends, one unknown, not rocket science they are not going get involved with each other unless absolutly nessessary, no conspiracy just plain old common sense tis why these guys win!! small piece of advise from a recreational player and please dont be offended, read john conners ABC of DYMs and gl m8
    Posted by ryderroo
    Fair point ryderroo, and as you note, DYM's are very formulaic, so yes, most successful DYM players have a very similar style.

    The John Connor DYM Thread is HERE

    Might be worth the OP having a gander at it, and as ryder notes, don't be offended, the suggestion is intended to be helpful.
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  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    your not really gonna get the full picture unless your sitting at alot of these tables are you?
    Posted by CFC302
    True so what were you exspecting from posting it here then.
    TK said it better than i ever could a few posts up, if you think collusion is involved then you have to contact Customer support pronto with you suspisions and evidence.
    I would definatly recommend reporting possible cheaters, we dont want them here.
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  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : Fair point ryderroo, and as you note, DYM's are very formulaic, so yes, most successful DYM players have a very similar style. The John Connor DYM Thread is HERE Might be worth the OP having a gander at it, and as ryder notes, don't be offended, the suggestion is intended to be helpful.
    Posted by Tikay10
    OP is a long term winning player
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  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited January 2012
    I can understand the OP's concerns here so perhaps some context is useful.

    As I understand it the DYM Legends team was set up purely to play in the Monday night DTD tournaments where I think all will agree they have been a welcome addition.

    I'm sure they opperate in the same way as all of the other teams in that there is commaraderie and banter, but when playing the game it's every man for himself.  I can only speak for my team - Hitsquad but would suspect that DYM LEGENDS opperate in the same way and there would simply be no benefit to collusion in that everyone plays with their own money and there is no benefit to other team members if a team mate wins and you lose.

    I hope and suspect what you are seeing is that team DYM LEGENDS are all very good DYM players and if one of them is in a pot that the others are unlikely to join in without a very strong hand.  As Tikay has pointed out, they all understand DYM's pretty well.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    I suspect that the players in a DYM Team would generally know how to play the bubble in these DYMs and thus they would all follow the same style. I also think that advertising a DYM Team on a rather small site is probably a bit silly.
    Posted by scotty77
    +1

    Like having a team called

    CASH SHARKS

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,826
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    Thank you ryder, at least someone is on my wavelength.... will give it a read.
    Posted by CFC302
    I am on your wavelength, CFC, I just think that if you think players are cheating, or colluding, you should gather the evidence & send it to Sky Poker.

    Smearing the reputations of regular players, just because they are winners, is not really on - UNLESS you have evidence.

    The thread is unlikely to survive the Mods censure much longer, so I hope you send the evidence in.

    Good luck @ the Tables, & I hope you enjoy the John Connor DYM thread - it's helped an amazing number of players, most of whom now play in a similar style.....
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  • salad24salad24 Member Posts: 275
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    [QUOTE]I suspect that the players in a DYM Team would generally know how to play the bubble in these DYMs and thus they would all follow the same style. I also think that advertising a DYM Team on a rather small site is probably a bit silly.
    Posted by scotty77
    Exactly this. Most people on team DYM have read through JC's blog and thus play "optimally" around the bubble and know how to bully a short stack, if that's you, then badluck! This is all part of the game format and you will always incounter it if there are 2 or 3 people who know how to play the games on the same table.

    However, if you have any examples of say a team member being all in with their BB and another team member in the SB needing only to top up by a very small amount (which they should do 100% of the time) just to let them survive then i agree, that might need looking into.

    Having played plently of DYM's with other people on the team, i can assure you this does not happen (to the best of my knowlage) It really is every man for themselves, the team is more there for meeting people on the site and providing suport for one another.

    I personally think team DYM provide the best rail on the site, and is stuffed full of very good players.

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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,826
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS:
    In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : OP is a long term winning player
    Posted by TWRAMYEP

    Quite possibly, but that does not give him the right to slander other players. If he has evidence of collusion or cheating, then he should....oh wait, I've said it before. ;)
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