In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : It would not be "unethical" at all - it would be outright cheationg/collusion. Trouble is, it's easy - very easy - to throw out these accusations (usually after losing...) but it needs more than that to make the case - if any EVIDENCE is available, it should be sent to Customer Care. If there is no evidence, well..... Posted by Tikay10
i have reported several incidents of collusion to cc over my time playing dyms
can i also just make it clear that to the best of my knowledge, no1 that i have reported is in team dym legends, so i am certainly not tryin nto throw accusations at anyone
having that team though is maybe not the best idea
In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : i have reported several incidents of collusion to cc over my time playing dyms can i also just make it clear that to the best of my knowledge, no1 that i have reported is in team dym legends, so i am certainly not tryin nto throw accusations at anyone having that team though is maybe not the best idea Posted by SHANXTA
Good man.
I really feel for the lads in the "DYM Legends" Team, they are being slandered here, without, as far as I can see, an iota of evidence. That is bang wrong. They have been accused of cheating, & described as "bellends". Lovely.
In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : Quite possibly, but that does not give him the right to slander other players. If he has evidence of collusion or cheating, then he should....oh wait, I've said it before. Posted by Tikay10
Sure I totally agree with you, I was just pointing out that I dont think its the OP skill level thats the problem as two posters assumed it was by linking a basic strat post for OP reading.
In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : Sure I totally agree with you, I was just pointing out that I dont think its the OP skill level thats the problem as two posters assumed it was by linking a basic strat post for OP reading. Posted by TWRAMYEP
Yes, I'm aware of your line here Sir, & I appreciate it. For my part, I was sugaring a bitter pill, if you get my drift.
We live in a very peculiar society, when folks can say pretty much what they want when using the internet, seemingly without fear of retribution or recrimination, so it relies upon their good sense to a degree.
Try turning the problem upside down, or as Warren Buffett (a "fairly" successful man) always suggests, "invert the problem".
What would happen if I came on here & suggested that the OP was a cheat. Can you even begin to imagine the hoohah, the fuss, the sense of outrage? And of course, I'd be given the tin-tack, if I said that without any evidence, & quite rightly too. But players can come on here & say what they want? I don't think so......
In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : Yes, I'm aware of your line here Sir, & I appreciate it. For my part, I was sugaring a bitter pill, if you get my drift. We live in a very peculiar society, when folks can say pretty much what they want when using the internet, seemingly without fear of retribution or recrimination, so it relies upon their good sense to a degree. Try turning the problem upside down, or as Warren Buffett (a "fairly" successful man) always suggests, "invert the problem". What would happen if I came on here & suggested that the OP was a cheat. Can you even begin to imagine the hoohah, the fuss, the sense of outrage? And of course, I'd be given the tin-tack, if I said that without any evidence, & quite rightly too. But players can come on here & say what they want? I don't think so...... Posted by Tikay10
This.
If anyone feels they have an issue with the game play, it should be reported to Customer Care.
What definitely shouldn't happen is people come on the forum and label others cheats, donks, idiots, etc.
Please think carefully when choosing a thread title. Also think about if it's the sort of thing that should be posted at all...
I can understand the OP's concerns here so perhaps some context is useful. As I understand it the DYM Legends team was set up purely to play in the Monday night DTD tournaments where I think all will agree they have been a welcome addition. I'm sure they opperate in the same way as all of the other teams in that there is commaraderie and banter, but when playing the game it's every man for himself. I can only speak for my team - Hitsquad but would suspect that DYM LEGENDS opperate in the same way and there would simply be no benefit to collusion in that everyone plays with their own money and there is no benefit to other team members if a team mate wins and you lose. I hope and suspect what you are seeing is that team DYM LEGENDS are all very good DYM players and if one of them is in a pot that the others are unlikely to join in without a very strong hand. As Tikay has pointed out, they all understand DYM's pretty well. Posted by Slykllist
+1...... also as a member of TKP there are bragging rights when you knock a fellow team member out
In Response to Re: DYM BELLENDS : +1...... also as a member of TKP there are bragging rights when you knock a fellow team member out Posted by scouse_red
Which in your case is never Chris....do try harder this year please ☺
As for op, I think you should ask to join the DYM bell ringers.....oops, I meant legends!
as other people have said when you a play a team member on the same table its purely another person to take chips off also as been said by other groups the bragging rights to take out another team mate is great. have a look on the dtd on monday and see how much banter flies around the tables. This is yes a team event but all as individuals as stated if i knock out one of my team then no love lost its just a game
look their was 3 tpt players on a dym and NO WAY would we collude to fold to each other were their to double our money. when i regged i only saw one tpt their so i thought why not after DTD we could have chat about it as i go on mini view during DTD and can`t chat it just happens when i regged another TPT`er happened to reg at same time and because 4 players had already regged we were last two so could not even de-reg, mind you other tpt player did not even cash was taken out in 5th
i would also like and it was late/early morning so not many runners for mtt and if i`m still awake i head for dym`s don`t care who`s on table i`m there for myself
Love the Dim Leg Ends... I've seen them many a time while I've been railing my own team and never ever seen anything approaching collusion...
Surely they cant be hung drawn and quartered just for having a team name that's a bit more 'ronseal' than the others??
If the OP has a particular problem relating to one or two players then report it by all means but to lambaste thirty odd players on a public forum, as cheats, with no evidence is just plain wrong...
Trouble I find with DYM's is that you cash in a couple at say £5.50 then get gready and jump to £11 and lose one or two and you are back to stage one or losing again ! lol
The only trouble is that the team name "DYM Legends" written in their location can simply cause a misunderstanding when in the same DYM, it's simply a group for the grinders to have a bit of collective fun in a few tourneys.
i have a question for op, i don`t norm play dym`s but their are a couple off dym players (not the team) i avoid for i know they bully me lol, but say i find a table i like but there`s another TPT player regged does this mean i can`t reg for it, also had this last year about collusion and my brother was on site o,k only 30p dym but he was on table so i regged for it and i wrote in chatbox he was my brother and if anyone knocks him out they`ll get a kiss off me as i`ll get bragging rites and if i knock him out even sweeter, well the muppet bro is a newcastle supporter
This thread has just been brought to my attention and i feel as captain i must say something. The team was formed half way through the 1st UKOPS because for quite a few months we had been railing eachother in MTTs of a night (ASWELL AS TAKING EACHOTHERS MONEY IN THE DAY), But without a team in place, certain people got on with other people better,was there collusion then. If you think anything strange is happening i think you should check sharkscope coz if there is any collusion going on they have left the **** captain out of it. TEAM DYM LEG ENDS started 1st week in November i think, My sharkscope graph has gone a bit iffy since then. So, if there is any form of collusion, they have left the person who suggested the team, and is captain OUT, The name was thought up because it was a team of regular DYM players who also played MTTs in the night,omg_u_call had finished 3rd in the 1st UKOPS, then i had a 3rd in UKOPS 3, i think that was when the team started, then omg.took down UKOPS 5 i think it was. because of them results someone said we where LEGENDS, i thought a team name of LEG ENDS would be funnier. There are alot of players on sky that play DYMs that are not part of LEG ENDS, maybe they where in a team already(COLLUSION)lol,or they didnt want to be part of a team, but with who, for the last 3 years i have got on with very well on my tables and who have never accused me of being a cheat which is what this boils down to.I just hope the thoughts of the mindless few does not change the point of view, and make i add a big THANK YOU to people who have stuck up for us on this thread. At anytime sky feels the need to check my play or phone me to question plays i have made i welcome the chance to put my views across. TIKAY makes a good point, reads JCs book ABCs of DYM,in the book he talks about being able to fold POCKET ACES pre and that he has done it loads of times. Me, when the maths or the play is right, yes, ive done it loads of times, does that mean we where colluding, or just that we know the game. PLEASE, BEFORE YOU PUT ON A FORUM SOMETHING LIKE THIS, STOP AND THINK,
ive not been here long but have played these games on other sites for a long time..must have played well over 100000 and thats not a joke
after playing on sky with the dym leg ends as they have on there pic.i can say at no point in time have i seen any of them type in the chat about cheating or have i seen any of them cheating or even look like they are
the only thing i have seen them do is check it down when theres an all in (no comments made though) and this to me is not cheating...
if you feel there is any cheating do contact cs about it but in my own opinon i have not seen any
but to be fair mate there not that good anyway so if they are it shouldnt matter....lol
the only thing i have seen them do is check it down when theres an all in (no comments made though) and this to me is not cheating... Posted by ethel1947
^ This, think I've only seen a few of them on the tables but never anything suspect. Also, besides flopping a Royal Flush, or having the nuts on the river, checking down when there's an all in (Especially on the bubble) is completely standard.
This thread has just been brought to my attention and i feel as captain i must say something. The team was formed half way through the 1st UKOPS because for quite a few months we had been railing eachother in MTTs of a night (ASWELL AS TAKING EACHOTHERS MONEY IN THE DAY), But without a team in place, certain people got on with other people better,was there collusion then. If you think anything strange is happening i think you should check sharkscope coz if there is any collusion going on they have left the **** captain out of it. TEAM DYM LEG ENDS started 1st week in November i think, My sharkscope graph has gone a bit iffy since then. So, if there is any form of collusion, they have left the person who suggested the team, and is captain OUT, The name was thought up because it was a team of regular DYM players who also played MTTs in the night,omg_u_call had finished 3rd in the 1st UKOPS, then i had a 3rd in UKOPS 3, i think that was when the team started, then omg.took down UKOPS 5 i think it was. because of them results someone said we where LEGENDS, i thought a team name of LEG ENDS would be funnier. There are alot of players on sky that play DYMs that are not part of LEG ENDS, maybe they where in a team already(COLLUSION)lol,or they didnt want to be part of a team, but with who, for the last 3 years i have got on with very well on my tables and who have never accused me of being a cheat which is what this boils down to.I just hope the thoughts of the mindless few does not change the point of view, and make i add a big THANK YOU to people who have stuck up for us on this thread. At anytime sky feels the need to check my play or phone me to question plays i have made i welcome the chance to put my views across. TIKAY makes a good point, reads JCs book ABCs of DYM,in the book he talks about being able to fold POCKET ACES pre and that he has done it loads of times. Me, when the maths or the play is right, yes, ive done it loads of times, does that mean we where colluding, or just that we know the game. PLEASE, BEFORE YOU PUT ON A FORUM SOMETHING LIKE THIS, STOP AND THINK, Posted by 18AND5TIME
Fair Post, Sir, & I'd like to apologise that this Thread has somehow been allowed to survive, though once the accusation had been made, it was, in a way, better to allow the thread to remain. Slurs are made on the internet in pen, not pencil, & once such a thing is said, removing the Thread almost works against you, as you have no chance to defend yourself.
The allegation - completely unsubstantiated, with not a shred of evidence presented - is, with due respect to the OP, bang out of order, as I have been trying to stress all day today.
Not much more I can say, to be honest.
As far as I am aware, no evidence has been presented, & there is therefore no case to be made. End of story.
In Response to Re: DYM COLLUSION? : ^ This, think I've only seen a few of them on the tables but never anything suspect. Also, besides flopping a Royal Flush, or having the nuts on the river, checking down when there's an all in (Especially on the bubble) is completely standard. Posted by EvilPingu
thats why i dont count it as cheating...ive played alot of them with dym leg ends on there pic and not 1 of them has cheated in my opionion....infact ive only seen 1 set of players cheating on here and they messed themself up and both lost there game...i think if they want to have a bit of fun by having a little group of them fair play..its a game and ment to be fun....all ties in with the forum thing...alot of people feel there is cheating in poker as its about the money.when people lose money its not or cannot be down to there play it has to be cheating.at some point in time we have all done this.its a gamble and thats all but people sometimes play above what they can afford to lose which hurts them when they do.i dont think the poster means any harm with what he put and im sure if they look at it clear they will relise that...lifes to short to argue about silly things so lets just have fun and hopfully make a little money along the way
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I really feel for the lads in the "DYM Legends" Team, they are being slandered here, without, as far as I can see, an iota of evidence. That is bang wrong. They have been accused of cheating, & described as "bellends". Lovely.
thats the problem as two posters assumed it was by linking a basic strat post for OP reading.
We live in a very peculiar society, when folks can say pretty much what they want when using the internet, seemingly without fear of retribution or recrimination, so it relies upon their good sense to a degree.
Try turning the problem upside down, or as Warren Buffett (a "fairly" successful man) always suggests, "invert the problem".
What would happen if I came on here & suggested that the OP was a cheat. Can you even begin to imagine the hoohah, the fuss, the sense of outrage? And of course, I'd be given the tin-tack, if I said that without any evidence, & quite rightly too. But players can come on here & say what they want? I don't think so......
also had this last year about collusion and my brother was on site o,k only 30p dym but he was on table so i regged for it and i wrote in chatbox he was my brother and if anyone knocks him out they`ll get a kiss off me as i`ll get bragging rites and if i knock him out even sweeter, well the muppet bro is a newcastle supporter
The allegation - completely unsubstantiated, with not a shred of evidence presented - is, with due respect to the OP, bang out of order, as I have been trying to stress all day today.
Not much more I can say, to be honest.
As far as I am aware, no evidence has been presented, & there is therefore no case to be made. End of story.