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Wasn't sure where to put this post and not sure it will stay in general poker chat for long either, but... With the recent problem regarding Virgin Media servers having technical difficulties and being unable to connect to the Sky servers, would this account for a few of the 'glitches' every now and again on Sky Poker if say your ISP was virgin? ie. Virgin would ensure their products/services were ok before any other 3rd party services. Would this also account for some LAG every now and again? I have asked a few engineering people over the w/end, and not really had a clear cut answer. I have not got a clue about any of this stuff btw, and I am genuinely interested in the view of others on this subject. It is also a very rare serious post off me and would appreciate the same in return. Posted by MAXALLY
The short answers are possibly and possibly.
The long answer is...
Whenever someone connect from their computer to say the Sky Poker service they are doing so across the internet which by its very nature will cross many networks. for example if I check my connection from home to Sky Poker I see this:
Tracing route to www.skypoker.com [nnn.145.126.nnn] over a maximum of 30 hops:
[MY HOUSE] 1 17 ms 7 ms 31 ms cpc8-sotn8-2-0-gw.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com [nn.25.188.n] 2 78 ms 35 ms 16 ms sotn-core-1b-ge-400-1597.network.vm.net [80.4.225.189] 3 120 ms 39 ms 17 ms glfd-bb-1b-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.153] 4 19 ms 21 ms 10 ms glfd-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.172.5] 5 31 ms 79 ms 53 ms popl-bb-1b-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.62] 6 55 ms 34 ms 110 ms tele-ic-5-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.117] 7 117 ms 103 ms 31 ms 195.66.226.43 8 40 ms 22 ms 21 ms ip-87-83-19-49.easynet.co.uk [87.83.19.49] 9 53 ms 32 ms 40 ms ip-87-83-19-50.easynet.co.uk [87.83.19.50] 10 133 ms 166 ms 119 ms ip-87-83-19-54.easynet.co.uk [87.83.19.54] [IT STOPS AT SKY POKER HERE]
What this shows is that the connection goes from my house, across 6 Virgin Media devices across some unnamed device, then across 3 Easynet devices and stops at Sky Poker.
If it were to fail at one of these points, then unless you had great diagnostic skills you wouldn't know if the fault was with your home computer, your router, your ISP, countless other ISPs it may go through, or Sky Poker.
When you load a webpage, or the Sky Poker download client, download your latest "specialist" movies over the internet, it may take a different route every time (it's a bit more complicated than that really).
So your page load of this post on the forum may have been delivered via USA, Australia, Germany or even Wales (they have the internet now I believe). If the page failed to load or was slow, which ISP is to blame?
People always blame either Sky Poker, their own ISP, Sky Poker or did I mention they sometimes blame Sky Poker?
Imagine a driver was going on a road trip to Spain. They leave the house, drive down their road, drive to the Channel Tunnel, arrive in France, drive south to the border, cross into Spain then get stuck in traffic in Madrid due to road works. So they are suddenly held up in traffic, in Spain. If this was comparable to an internet connection the driver would blame their local council for the terrible service they are getting on the roads. They pay their council tax and they can't even provide decent roads! Even though the problem is a few hundred (thousand?) miles from their home.
But mostly I'd just switch it off and on again. Posted by Machka
and y should you have to keep doing that?? knowbody cares where the signal is coming from or going to . we are playing on sky poker and it doesnt work. so sky poker are going to get the blame. or are we going to start with .wot browser are u using and what isp rubbish.
Cheers Aaron....I 'got' bits of that, thank you for trying to put it in my language!
So....when can you pop round and sort my pc out then?? )
I didn't even know that they had electricity in Wales, let alone the tinternet! I thought that Dylan & Alan must of drove to at least the border to play and win them jackpots!
We've had Gas for more than 10 years now. All our pigeon post has now been replaced with WiFly. Electricity and telephone are fully incorporated at the Post Office. Admittedly the yellow ethernet cable running across the main road from the Post Office to my house causes a few problems occassionally, but we rarely have any horse drawn vehicles out on the streets after 5pm anyway.
In Response to Re: Conflict of interests? : When their servers went down, it was still possible to connect to the internet but not to Sky Poker. I also play on 'another' on line poker site and very very rarely have any connection issues but I am experiencing more and more with Sky Poker than I ever did before and I am wondering if this is a major factor why. Posted by MAXALLY
I'm not with virgin media and when the servers went down i could connect to the internet and not sky, as it was skys servers going down?? havent read the whole thread but i assume your talking about friday?
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The long answer is...
Whenever someone connect from their computer to say the Sky Poker service they are doing so across the internet which by its very nature will cross many networks. for example if I check my connection from home to Sky Poker I see this:
tracert www.skypoker.com
Tracing route to www.skypoker.com [nnn.145.126.nnn]
over a maximum of 30 hops:
[MY HOUSE]
1 17 ms 7 ms 31 ms cpc8-sotn8-2-0-gw.15-1.cable.virginmedia.com [nn.25.188.n]
2 78 ms 35 ms 16 ms sotn-core-1b-ge-400-1597.network.vm.net [80.4.225.189]
3 120 ms 39 ms 17 ms glfd-bb-1b-ae3-0.network.virginmedia.net [212.43.163.153]
4 19 ms 21 ms 10 ms glfd-bb-1a-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.172.5]
5 31 ms 79 ms 53 ms popl-bb-1b-ae7-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.62]
6 55 ms 34 ms 110 ms tele-ic-5-ae0-0.network.virginmedia.net [213.105.159.117]
7 117 ms 103 ms 31 ms 195.66.226.43
8 40 ms 22 ms 21 ms ip-87-83-19-49.easynet.co.uk [87.83.19.49]
9 53 ms 32 ms 40 ms ip-87-83-19-50.easynet.co.uk [87.83.19.50]
10 133 ms 166 ms 119 ms ip-87-83-19-54.easynet.co.uk [87.83.19.54]
[IT STOPS AT SKY POKER HERE]
What this shows is that the connection goes from my house, across 6 Virgin Media devices across some unnamed device, then across 3 Easynet devices and stops at Sky Poker.
If it were to fail at one of these points, then unless you had great diagnostic skills you wouldn't know if the fault was with your home computer, your router, your ISP, countless other ISPs it may go through, or Sky Poker.
When you load a webpage, or the Sky Poker download client, download your latest "specialist" movies over the internet, it may take a different route every time (it's a bit more complicated than that really).
So your page load of this post on the forum may have been delivered via USA, Australia, Germany or even Wales (they have the internet now I believe). If the page failed to load or was slow, which ISP is to blame?
People always blame either Sky Poker, their own ISP, Sky Poker or did I mention they sometimes blame Sky Poker?
Imagine a driver was going on a road trip to Spain. They leave the house, drive down their road, drive to the Channel Tunnel, arrive in France, drive south to the border, cross into Spain then get stuck in traffic in Madrid due to road works. So they are suddenly held up in traffic, in Spain. If this was comparable to an internet connection the driver would blame their local council for the terrible service they are getting on the roads. They pay their council tax and they can't even provide decent roads! Even though the problem is a few hundred (thousand?) miles from their home.
We've had Gas for more than 10 years now. All our pigeon post has now been replaced with WiFly. Electricity and telephone are fully incorporated at the Post Office. Admittedly the yellow ethernet cable running across the main road from the Post Office to my house causes a few problems occassionally, but we rarely have any horse drawn vehicles out on the streets after 5pm anyway.