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Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com

Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
edited January 2012 in Poker Chat

Good morning.

As you may know, there was a scheduled outage overnight, to implement some changes to Sportsbook & Poker.

The changes to Poker were partly to prepare the site for major & exciting enhancements a little further down the line, & partly for changing some of the existing products.

It's mostly "detail" this time, correcting existing anomolies which have existed for a while, & changing things around to make them, on balance, fairer. 

Bear with me, & I'll list the changes one by one.
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  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012

    Cash Table "Buy-In" levels.

    The minimum buy-in on all regular Cash Tables has been increased from 10 x BB (BB = "Big Blinds") to 20 x BB.

    The default buy-in* has increased from 40 x BB to 60 x BB.

    * What is the default buy-in? When you open a cash Table, UNLESS you type in your own choice, you are "defaulted" to a certain amount, previously 40 BB, now 60BB. Remember, you do NOT have to accept the default buy-in, you can type in any amount you wish, between 20x BB & 100 x BB, it's your choice completely.

    As an example.....

    On a regular 25p-50p Cash Table, the minimum buy-in WAS £5 (10 x 50p BB), it is now £10 (20 x 50p BB).
     
    The MAXIMUM buy-in is unchanged, @ £50.

    The DEFAULT buy-in goes up from £20 to £30.

    You still have the right & ability to manually type in any amount between the minimum & maximum.

    Note; - Action Tables, Deep Stack Tables, & Master Cash Tables are NOT affected by these changes in any way.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012

    "Action" Cash Table Limits

    These have now been extended to include Action Tables @ the 5p-5p level.

    On "Action Tables" there is no Small Blind - BOTH the Blinds pay a "Big Blind". This generates more action, as there is more dead money in the pot pre-flop.
  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited January 2012

    Any hints on what some of the exciting changes are going to be down the line?

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012

    Happy Hours

    The "Happy Hours" introduced recently will continue as previous, however they will now be extended to cover ALL Cash Table Limits. This includes 2p-4p, 4p-8p, & the new 5p-5p.

    During "Happy Hours" you get a 50% "Cash 4 Points" boost.

    Sky Poker "Happy Hours" take place 7 days per week at these times.....

    "Lunchtime" - 1pm - 2pm

    "Evening"  - 6pm - 7pm

    "Late Night" - 11pm - Midnight.

    Additionally, from time to time, additional Happy Hours will be scheduled.

    Details of Sky Poker Happy Hours are HERE
  • TINTINTINTIN Member Posts: 1,612
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    Happy Hours The "Happy Hours" introduced recently will continue as previous, however they will now be extended to cover ALL Cash Table Limits. This includes 2p-4p, 4p-8p, & the new 5p-5p. During "Happy Hours" you get a 50% "Cash 4 Points" boost. Sky Poker "Happy Hours" take place 7 days per week at these times..... "Lunchtime" - 1pm - 2pm "Evening"  - 6pm - 7pm "Late Night" - 11pm - Midnight. Additionally, from time to time, additional Happy Hours will be scheduled. Details of Sky Poker Happy Hours are HERE
    Posted by Tikay10
    does the happy hours covering 2p/4p etc start from today?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012

    Poker Points

    The Poker Points awarded for cash games have been restructured to iron out anomolies, & make them fairer across the board. 

    Some have decreased, some have increased, overall the change is neutral.

    Details of the new Poker Points at various levels are shown in detail HERE 
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : does the happy hours covering 2p/4p etc start from today?
    Posted by TINTIN
    Morning tintin.

    Yes, all these changes start with immediate effect, they were changed during the scheduled outage.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    Any hints on what some of the exciting changes are going to be down the line?
    Posted by TWRAMYEP
    No....... ;)

    Prefer not to be too specific as to "what & when", as experience tells us that it'll be like a stick to beat us with!

    Most of them have been well trailed on here for some time, & some of them were on display - for those who showed interest - at SPT Luton.

    The final pieces of the jigsaw are now in sight, although there will always be enhancements & new Products.
     
  • TINTINTINTIN Member Posts: 1,612
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : Morning tintin. Yes, all these changes start with immediate effect, they were changed during the scheduled outage.
    Posted by Tikay10
    morning tikay

    thanks for the reply, good news about the happy hour but gutted to see poker points decreased for the nl4 level.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : morning tikay thanks for the reply, good news about the happy hour but gutted to see poker points decreased for the nl4 level.
    Posted by TINTIN
    Noted tintin - may I call you tin? - but it was just wrong before, when players got exactly the same at 2p-4p & 4p-8p as they did at 5p-10p, & the same at 2p-4p as at 4p-8p.

    That was wrong, & it had to be corrected.

    Some players will approve, some not so much.......!
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited January 2012
    Ok LOL,are the happy hours going to round up half points then?

    Eg 20NL tables were 5 points per 20 hands and only increased to 7 during happy hour, if this is still the case then 4NL players are still effectively out of happy hour!
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012
    Excellent news, I have long wondered why 10nl was the same at 4nl in terms of C4P, also very happy about both the minimum and default buy ins at cash tables!
  • pilgrim07pilgrim07 Member Posts: 232
    edited January 2012
    So, normal poker points earned for us nl4 fish halved. What are you trying to say Sky?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    So, normal poker points earned for us nl4 fish halved. What are you trying to say Sky?
    Posted by pilgrim07
    See my Post @ 11.19 this morning.
  • pilgrim07pilgrim07 Member Posts: 232
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : See my Post @ 11.19 this morning.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Post noted Tikay. But it does not alter the fact that we nl4 players have been hit hardest by these changes. From my own perspective, I can usually manage the 500 hundred point mark, but now I will have no chance and no freeroll to fall back on.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : Post noted Tikay. But it does not alter the fact that we nl4 players have been hit hardest by these changes. From my own perspective, I can usually manage the 500 hundred point mark, but now I will have no chance and no freeroll to fall back on.
    Posted by pilgrim07
    Noted, Pilgrim, but it was clearly wrong before, & had been for a long time, & needed to be corrected.
  • SwogSwog Member Posts: 488
    edited January 2012

    I seen firstly that the 'happy hours' had extended to NL4 to great excitement, but after further reading of other implementations, even during these happy hours we NL4 players will be receiving less points for our play than we was doing in normal time this time last week.
    Firstly less cash for our points start of year, now further decreases when it comes to C4P. Undecided wether to step up to NL10 where I will be more favourably treated or give up cash game poker completely and occasionally top up £10 for the odd £2 tourney.
    Its a shame the same scheme that attracted me to cash game poker is gradually driving me away. Here the drawbacks far outweigh the advantages and as a regular player at NL4 i am a very frustrated customer.
    Good luck with the future ideas, hopefully my interest can be regained after the changes! Arron.

    Edit: it seems every change has no actual benefits to NL4 as a whole, how far will this go before C4P is completley removed for NL4 players for example. Oh well C4P's or none Sky will still get plenty of gamblers from betting section chucking there money around, until that stops, these changes will continue. Business is Business.

  • TINTINTINTIN Member Posts: 1,612
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : Noted tintin - may I call you tin? - but it was just wrong before, when players got exactly the same at 2p-4p & 4p-8p as they did at 5p-10p, & the same at 2p-4p as at 4p-8p. That was wrong, & it had to be corrected. Some players will approve, some not so much.......!
    Posted by Tikay10
    whatever you want to call me is fine by me. i agree that the 3 levels wasnt the best gaining the same points but my opinion is its a bit harsh cutting the points at nl4. its hard enough gaining enough points grinding away to get a modest c4p return at that level, i think this will discourage some from the grind. myself im probably one of the biggest points earner at that level and ive managed to hit 4k a couple of times while winning a reasonable amount. i know its a bonus but that bonus can come in handy especially when you hit a tough month

    i fully understand any reasoning the suits have behind this and in no way having a go at yourself or anyone else. im just disappointed with this but its just another obstacle to overcome.
  • NColleyNColley Member Posts: 1,178
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    I seen firstly that the 'happy hours' had extended to NL4 to great excitement, but after further reading of other implementations, even during these happy hours we NL4 players will be receiving less points for our play than we was doing in normal time this time last week. Firstly less cash for our points start of year, now further decreases when it comes to C4P. Undecided wether to step up to NL10 where I will be more favourably treated or give up cash game poker completely and occasionally top up £10 for the odd £2 tourney. Its a shame the same scheme that attracted me to cash game poker is gradually driving me away. Here the drawbacks far outweigh the advantages and as a regular player at NL4 i am a very frustrated customer. Good luck with the future ideas, hopefully my interest can be regained after the changes! Arron. Edit: it seems every change has no actual benefits to NL4 as a whole, how far will this go before C4P is completley removed for NL4 players for example. Oh well C4P's or none Sky will still get plenty of gamblers from betting section chucking there money around, until that stops, these changes will continue. Business is Business.
    Posted by Swog

    IMO if you are at 4nl - 10nl you should be focused on improving your game and winning money through actually beating opponents and not increasing your bankroll through C4Ps, this is not purely directed at you nor is it exclusive at 4nl, sure getting even £5 back is nice but if you are relying on this then you are not focusing enough on the poker.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,802
    edited January 2012
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com:
    In Response to Re: Changing some bells & whistles @ Sky Poker.com : whatever you want to call me is fine by me. i agree that the 3 levels wasnt the best gaining the same points but my opinion is its a bit harsh cutting the points at nl4. its hard enough gaining enough points grinding away to get a modest c4p return at that level, i think this will discourage some from the grind. myself im probably one of the biggest points earner at that level and ive managed to hit 4k a couple of times while winning a reasonable amount. i know its a bonus but that bonus can come in handy especially when you hit a tough month i fully understand any reasoning the suits have behind this and in no way having a go at yourself or anyone else. im just disappointed with this but its just another obstacle to overcome.
    Posted by TINTIN
    Fully understood Tinny, & I appreciate that, whilst disappointed, you understand the reasoning & logic.
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