Diary of the new kids challenge!!

WINKY911 · February 2012

Hi All

Sorry for starting another diary thread, but i really need your help!!.
I joined Sky poker in October last year and have tinkered with all formats of the game with little direction,focus or success!! Before October I knew nothing about poker what so ever and had never played, But since joining the site I have become totally obsessed! The aim of my challenge with the aid of the forum regs is to turn a complete newbie fish into a half decent player!! I want to start at 4NL cash and look to work my way up from there, I have a starting BR of £150 and intend to play between 4-6 tables. I will look to post HH on a regular basis to get some honest feed back on things i have done well and not so well. The ultimate goal would be to have a BR to tackle NL20 by the years end, not sure if this is realistic?? As previously mentioned i genuinely have no poker experience and really really need all your guys help for this challenge to work.

Many thanks in advance

Wayne

STARTING BR £150

JockBMW · February 2012

Best of Luck Wayne

GaryQQQ · February 2012

As a non-cash player I won't be one of those able to offer advice, but I wish you the best of luck.

walesboy · February 2012

at nl4 patience and the ability not to get too annoyed when the inevitable "bad beats" happen is essential.
play your premium hands and be big if hit.
from being on same table this afternoon you have the patience!
good luck

devonfish5 · February 2012

hi wayne,
anything is possible
all depends on just how serious you are,i guess.
in my opinion,i,m thinking nl20 is a big ask,
especially as you say you are a newbie.

think you should tackle the challenge in stages,
firstly;play nl4 on a couple of tables,
then progress to 4 then 6.
if you can increase bank roll to £300+
then why not try nl10.

then if you are still winning and can get up to around £500+
have a shot at nl20.

don,t forget,
it,s never a straight road to the nxt level,
there will undoubtedly be downswings,
and you must ensure you are rolled for each level.
you certainly don,t want to be risking more than 10%
of your b/roll at any one time,
ideally 5%.

best wishes though wayne,

and hope you run well,
especially at the start,
as this will deffo encourage you with your challenge!

devon

rancid · February 2012

good luck

keep your poker simple ABC big hand - big bet

wayne1958 · February 2012

good luck, same as above dont get down hearted with bad beats.... pokers a never ending game,,,,,,,,

WINKY911 · February 2012

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
bigdaz	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.08
POTTY539	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.19
	Your hole cards	K Q
XXXX	Raise		£0.16	£0.22	£2.72
WINKY911	Call		£0.16	£0.38	£4.59
cgoldie	Fold
J1MBOE	Fold
bigdaz	Fold
POTTY539	Fold
Flop
		Q 2 7
XXXX	Bet		£0.29	£0.67	£2.43
WINKY911	Raise		£1.01	£1.68	£3.58
XXXX	All-in		£2.43	£4.11	£0.00
WINKY911	Call		£1.71	£5.82	£1.87
XXXX	Show	K K
WINKY911	Show	K Q
Turn
		2
River
		9
XXXX	Win	Two Pairs, Kings and 2s	£5.38		£5.38

WINKY911 · February 2012

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
cgoldie	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£2.14
XXXX	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£3.74
	Your hole cards	A A
TF	Fold
POTTY539	Fold
maruff	Fold
WINKY911	Raise		£0.20	£0.26	£3.74
cgoldie	Fold
XXXX	Call		£0.16	£0.42	£3.58
Flop
		7 4 6
XXXX	Check
WINKY911	Bet		£0.26	£0.68	£3.48
XXXX	Raise		£0.73	£1.41	£2.85
WINKY911	Call		£0.47	£1.88	£3.01
Turn
		J
XXXX	Check
WINKY911	Check
River
		3
XXXX	Check
WINKY911	Check
XXXX	Show	7 A
WINKY911	Show	A A
WINKY911	Win	Pair of Aces	£1.73		£4.74

WINKY911 · February 2012

Hi All
Thanks for the initial input, Much appreciated. Above are the biggest winning and losing hands of the day.
Looking back at the big loosing hand feel like such a clown!! More interested in the winning hand, Was there more value to be had? All opinions welcomed. Steady start to the challenge up £5.36 for the day.

Starting BR £150
Current BR 155.36

TINTIN · February 2012

In Response to Re: Diary of the new kids challenge!!:

Hi All Thanks for the initial input, Much appreciated. Above are the biggest winning and losing hands of the day. Looking back at the big loosing hand feel like such a clown!! More interested in the winning hand, Was there more value to be had? All opinions welcomed. Steady start to the challenge up £5.36 for the day. Starting BR £150 Current BR 155.36
Posted by WINKY911

on winning hand jam the flop once your bet has been raised.

Glenelg · February 2012

In Response to Re: Diary of the new kids challenge!!:

Hi All Thanks for the initial input, Much appreciated. Above are the biggest winning and losing hands of the day. Looking back at the big loosing hand feel like such a clown!! More interested in the winning hand, Was there more value to be had? All opinions welcomed. Steady start to the challenge up £5.36 for the day. Starting BR £150 Current BR 155.36
Posted by WINKY911

Hi Winky,
Enjoying the Diary. I'm fairly new to the game, like yourself, BUT don't play cash so advice is short. Personally, I prefer to focus on reviewing my losing hands. I think I learn much more from them. It sounds like you prob know where you erred.
The cash players on this forum are EXCELLENT at giving advice! BEWARE tho if they sense another fish in the pool...doo doo doo doo! (that's the Jaws theme in case you were wondering!)

Good luck

Pad

WINKY911 · February 2012

In Response to Re: Diary of the new kids challenge!!:

In Response to Re: Diary of the new kids challenge!! : on winning hand jam the flop once your bet has been raised.
Posted by TINTIN

Thanks for the input TINTIN my only concern was that this guy is a 4NL REG who likes to setmine and plays Suited Connecting cards strongly, When he check raised I felt he may have hit his set so was considering folding?? But been a complete fish im not yet good enough to fold pocket AA's Lol. If I did jam the flop im thinking I would only get called by a better hand i.e set. I then was unsure of the best line on the next two streets. Opinions??

Dudeskin8 · February 2012

KQ - Just call the flop bet, by raising it's hard to get value from worse, he has raised 4x UTG so would that include QJ/Q10/Q9 etc, unlikely. Once you raise though you have to call but it's better to just call here and allow him to possibly bluff/value bet worse.

AA - Bet MUCH bigger on flop, I'd make it 40p here or just pot lol, when he raises just shove or raise again but NEVER fold. As played 100% bet turn when checked to. Overall you actually lost £2.85 in this hand which is criminal at NL4.

TINTIN · February 2012

In Response to Re: Diary of the new kids challenge!!:

In Response to Re: Diary of the new kids challenge!! : Thanks for the input TINTIN my only concern was that this guy is a 4NL REG who likes to setmine and plays Suited Connecting cards strongly, When he check raised I felt he may have hit his set so was considering folding?? But been a complete fish im not yet good enough to fold pocket AA's Lol. If I did jam the flop im thinking I would only get called by a better hand i.e set. I then was unsure of the best line on the next two streets. Opinions??
Posted by WINKY911

on that board theres more hands that will call a shove at nl4 than have you beat. tbh if they have set or straight then sigh yell at something n move on. but i feel you could get called by any 7 any over pair and even a big draw that still needs to hit.

as played you defo need to bet turn. the check after the check raise stinks of weakness and this is the point you could have got more into the pot. got to ask why doea jh scare him to check?

WINKY911 · February 2012

2 Biggest losing hands of the session. Any probs with the pocket 4hand? think my bet sizing was ok. Hand with pocket 8 just couldnt but any 9's in his range but looking back another silly mstake!!

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
acemachine	Small blind		£0.02	£0.02	£3.32
DUCATI583	Big blind		£0.04	£0.06	£1.73
	Your hole cards	8 8
TheWicked1	Call		£0.04	£0.10	£0.80
WINKY911	Call		£0.04	£0.14	£4.01
suepoo	Call		£0.04	£0.18	£4.17
XXXX	Raise		£0.08	£0.26	£4.78
acemachine	Fold
DUCATI583	Fold
TheWicked1	Call		£0.04	£0.30	£0.76
WINKY911	Call		£0.04	£0.34	£3.97
suepoo	Call		£0.04	£0.38	£4.13
Flop
		2 9 9
TheWicked1	Check
WINKY911	Bet		£0.29	£0.67	£3.68
suepoo	Fold
XXXX	Call		£0.29	£0.96	£4.49
TheWicked1	Fold
Turn
		3
WINKY911	Bet		£0.48	£1.44	£3.20
XXXX	Raise		£0.96	£2.40	£3.53
WINKY911	All-in		£3.20	£5.60	£0.00
XXXX	All-in		£3.53	£9.13	£0.00
XXXX	Unmatched bet		£0.81	£8.32	£0.81
WINKY911	Show	8 8
XXXX	Show	9 K
River
		J
XXXX	Win	Three 9s	£7.69		£8.50

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
WINKY911	Big blind		£0.04	£0.04	£4.90
	Your hole cards	4 4
planet432	Call		£0.04	£0.08	£2.41
cgoldie	Fold
therising8	Fold
maruff	Call		£0.04	£0.12	£2.05
WINKY911	Check
Flop
		4 10 3
WINKY911	Bet		£0.35	£0.47	£4.55
planet432	Call		£0.35	£0.82	£2.06
maruff	Fold
Turn
		6
WINKY911	Bet		£0.82	£1.64	£3.73
planet432	Call		£0.82	£2.46	£1.24
River
		Q
WINKY911	Bet		£2.46	£4.92	£1.27
planet432	All-in		£1.24	£6.16	£0.00
WINKY911	Unmatched bet		£1.22	£4.94	£2.49
WINKY911	Show	4 4
planet432	Show	9 J
planet432	Win	Flush to the Queen	£4.56		£4.56

WINKY911 · February 2012

Player	Action	Cards	Amount	Pot	Balance
WINKY911	Big blind		£0.04	£0.04	£4.90
	Your hole cards	4 4
XXXX	Call		£0.04	£0.08	£2.41
cgoldie	Fold
therising8	Fold
maruff	Call		£0.04	£0.12	£2.05
WINKY911	Check
Flop
		4 10 3
WINKY911	Bet		£0.35	£0.47	£4.55
XXXX	Call		£0.35	£0.82	£2.06
maruff	Fold
Turn
		6
WINKY911	Bet		£0.82	£1.64	£3.73
XXXX	Call		£0.82	£2.46	£1.24
River
		Q
WINKY911	Bet		£2.46	£4.92	£1.27
XXXX	All-in		£1.24	£6.16	£0.00
WINKY911	Unmatched bet		£1.22	£4.94	£2.49
WINKY911	Show	4 4
XXXX	Show	9 J
XXXX	Win	Flush to the Queen	£4.56		£4.56

devonfish5 · February 2012

hi winky,
on 44 hand,
you could have raised up to 20p,ish,pre-flop.
1/2 pot bet on turn is fine,
could be 3/4 maybe.
worst card poss on river,spade.
what can u do...
think money was always going in,
just unlucky.
#
88 hand,
again,could raise up pre-flop..20p,ish
take control,
once u bet 48p on turn and get re-raised 48p,
got to think he has trip 9,s or poss got 88 beat.
deffo check river,
and see how much xxxx bets.

easy after the hand though...
as you say ,silly mistake.
thing is to take all the time bar to decide your move,
if you still think it is an all-in ,go 4 it.

keep going buddy...
early days

devon

Dudeskin8 · February 2012

88 - preflop fine, c/c on flop, donkbetting makes it tough if he raises and even if he flats the turn could bring an overcard and you are lost, as played fold to turn minraise, it's super strong I doubt you have any fold equity at all.

44 - fine.

Spikelad · February 2012

Hi Winky welcome to the wonderful world of nl4.I have been playing at this level for over a Month now and from what you have posted i think you will be fine.

I can only reiterate what the guys are saying bet for value when you have a hand and exploit the mistakes your opponents make.

I really enjoy playing at nl4 and hope you do as well mate.

WINKY911 · February 2012

DAY 2- UPDATE
Felt i played really poorly yesterday so pleased to only have a small loss at the end. Im wanting to keep a proper record of my results and was wondering if anyone new any links to ideas for spreadsheets or new of any decent ways of recording results themselves. Thanks to all that have contributed thus far.

Regards
Wayne

STARTING BR £150
CURRENT BR 154.36

Diary of the new kids challenge!!

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