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Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL

J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
edited February 2012 in Poker Chat
Hi everyone,

At 7pm, we're live on channel 865 and, from 10pm, on Sky Sports 4 / Sky Sports HD 4.

You can expect the usual Thursday-night mix of Poker Clinic topics, Sky Poker School lessons, Top of the Pots hands and Bounty Hunter highlights.

Plus, to celebrate five years of Sky Poker, we're giving away five fantastic prizes:

£33 Sky Sports Bounty Hunter entry
£55 Primo entry
£110 Sky Roller entry
SPT Glasgow seat
SPT Brighton seat

Details on how you can win will be revealed later.

Plus, Redmond and I will be joined in the studio by poker pro Alex 'Pickleman' Rousso.

Your general poker-related questions for Alex should be posted in this forum thread, e-mailed to skyopen@bskyb.com, or tweeted using the hashtag #SkyPokerTV.

One of Alex's recent blogs was a controversial 'wake up call' for tournament bloggers. I quote...

"Reporting on tournament poker as if the players are gladiators pitting irresistible, pure skill against each other, as if each hand is a plot point in some grand narrative, painting a picture of inexorable rise to destiny by the victor, as if – to put it bluntly – winning one tournament is a manifestation of skill, is absolute nonsense."

Do you agree? How do you feel about how poker tournaments are covered on-line and on TV? If you could change one thing about the poker industry, what would it be?

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  • J-HartiganJ-Hartigan Member Posts: 2,756
    edited February 2012
    Between 7pm and 10pm, we're going to play a game called...

    "GIVE ME FIVE!"

    Five of what, exactly?

    Well, I'll be testing your poker knowledge (and your ability to conduct lightning-fast Internet research). Remember there are FIVE prizes up for grabs, so it'll be worth taking part ;-)


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  • djblacke04djblacke04 Member Posts: 1,778
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    Hi everyone, At 7pm, we're live on channel 865 and, from 10pm, on Sky Sports 4 / Sky Sports HD 4. You can expect the usual Thursday-night mix of Poker Clinic topics, Sky Poker School lessons, Top of the Pots hands and Bounty Hunter highlights. Plus, to celebrate five years of Sky Poker, we're giving away five fantastic prizes: £33 Sky Sports Bounty Hunter entry £55 Primo entry £110 Sky Roller entry SPT Glasgow seat SPT Brighton seat Details on how you can win will be revealed later. Plus, Redmond and I will be joined in the studio by poker pro Alex 'Pickleman' Rousso . Your general poker-related questions for Alex should be posted in this forum thread, e-mailed to   skyopen@bskyb.com , or tweeted using the hashtag #SkyPokerTV. One of Alex's recent blogs was a controversial 'wake up call' for tournament bloggers. I quote... "Reporting on tournament poker as if the players are gladiators pitting irresistible, pure skill against each other, as if each hand is a plot point in some grand narrative, painting a picture of inexorable rise to destiny by the victor, as if – to put it bluntly – winning one tournament is a manifestation of skill, is absolute nonsense." Do you agree? How do you feel about how poker tournaments are covered on-line and on TV? If you could change one thing about the poker industry, what would it be?
    Posted by J-Hartigan


    I think that to win any tournament requires skill but the people who win over and over again obviously have more Skill....I personally dont think there is enough TV coverage for Poker,(obviously not SKY poker as they have own TV Channel)...but i would much rather watch the primo than endless repeats of Jeremy Vile late at night..

    what would i change>.....Hmmmmm.....yesssss......i would invent some sort of auto shuffle and dealing device ...for live games.. :)

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  • DUNMIDOSHDUNMIDOSH Member Posts: 1,473
    edited February 2012
    I'd like to see an analysts hands shown while progressing through a tournament but their cards not revealed till after the river has been dealt.
    So we can try to guestimate what they were holding pre, flop, and turn then learn from their moves. To improve our game!
    I believe skill is 60% of a players game 25% mathematics and 15% bottle what do you think?
    looking forward to the show! 
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  • smarrsmarr Member Posts: 461
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    Between 7pm and 10pm, we're going to play a game called... "GIVE ME FIVE!" Five of what, exactly? Well, I'll be testing your poker knowledge (and your ability to conduct lightning-fast Internet research). Remember there are FIVE prizes up for grabs, so it'll be worth taking part ;-)
    Posted by J-Hartigan

    thats me out then cause im running at />1mb lol!!
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  • shaun84shaun84 Member Posts: 685
    edited February 2012
    "Reporting on tournament poker as if the players are gladiators pitting irresistible, pure skill against each other, as if each hand is a plot point in some grand narrative, painting a picture of inexorable rise to destiny by the victor, as if – to put it bluntly – winning one tournament is a manifestation of skill, is absolute nonsense."

    Do you agree? How do you feel about how poker tournaments are covered on-line and on TV? If you could change one thing about the poker industry, what would it be?


    In my opinion, it is a common fault with Poker coverage that the commentators/analysts get more than a little carried away. It seems as though they are willing to gloss over the lucky moves people make, then give them credit for things that are standard winning plays. It was hilarious to watch the Premier League Mixed Game Championship on Sky Sports. Jessie May was the commentator and had a great time when commentating with Mike Sexton as they agreed 99% of the time. Then when he was commentating with Luke Schwartz he was being contradicted every hand due to his tendency to exaggerate the thought processes of players. Luke was a breath of fresh air and I hope situations like that help commentators to improve their reading of the game and comments on it. I love Jessie Mays excitable style and enthusiasm but he needs a strong hand next to him to stop him getting carried away. Sky commentary and analysis is usually quite good as you deconstruct the hands over a slightly longer period, but the problem occurs with the selection of the hands. The person/persons picking the hands that are shown on Sky, should pick hands where bad play has occured. Mostly they pick hands where it is big pocket pair vs big pocket pair or where someone sucks out. These might look good on tv but to help people improve I think a wider range of hands should be selected. Lets see how tonights commentary/analysis compares to the usual style.
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  • GreekWayGreekWay Member Posts: 462
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    "Reporting on tournament poker as if the players are gladiators pitting irresistible, pure skill against each other, as if each hand is a plot point in some grand narrative, painting a picture of inexorable rise to destiny by the victor, as if – to put it bluntly – winning one tournament is a manifestation of skill, is absolute nonsense." Do you agree? How do you feel about how poker tournaments are covered on-line and on TV? If you could change one thing about the poker industry, what would it be?
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    Well I think that Poker presenters, because they see the player's hands, present the game with a feeling that is much easier and I think they should not comment when a pro makes a move stating that it was stupid, not needed etc. Poker Pros are proffesional players and Poker Presenter are Presenters. A pro makes a move for a reason that a presenter obviously doesn't know.

    If I would change something in the industry I would definitely ban the HUDs. I totally agree to use a tracking software in order to improve someone's game but I think the HUDs are unfair and bad for the game. It's like spying your oppenent's way of  playing the game.If you want to do so do it with your own mind. It'a players game not a computers game.

    Have a great show and I hope I will win the Brighton SPT seat.

    Cheers,
    George


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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    Between 7pm and 10pm, we're going to play a game called... "GIVE ME FIVE!" Five of what, exactly? Well, I'll be testing your poker knowledge (and your ability to conduct lightning-fast Internet research). Remember there are FIVE prizes up for grabs, so it'll be worth taking part ;-)
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    How do you enter - Just e-mail the usual address?
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,436
    edited February 2012
    I agree that commentary can over analyse at times but with holes cards visible there is not a lot for the commentators to add when so much info is already on display. If holes cards were only revealed after hands had finished i believe that the commentators would be able to give a truer commentary.
     Improvements I like to see would be the W.S.O.P. FT to be available on a U.K. channel, not some obscure stream I've found  on a google search. I also think that coverage of the W.S.O.P. could give some tv time to tables that don't involve well known pro's and celeb's, giving the average poker player his fifteen minutes of fame.
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  • TRIP5TRIP5 Member Posts: 3,618
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    Between 7pm and 10pm, we're going to play a game called... "GIVE ME FIVE!" Five of what, exactly? Well, I'll be testing your poker knowledge (and your ability to conduct lightning-fast Internet research). Remember there are FIVE prizes up for grabs, so it'll be worth taking part ;-)
    Posted by J-Hartigan
    Did
    Someone
    Mention
    5
    In
    This
    Thread?????

    p.s. Evening Mr H & Happy Birthday Sky Poker..

    p.p.s. Reds is rocking tonight!!!

    xx
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  • smarrsmarr Member Posts: 461
    edited February 2012
    obviously i have changed my game since that post, and i bet every street now, and yes it works. Thanks to the community.
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  • smarrsmarr Member Posts: 461
    edited February 2012
    For the high five competition do we just need to send answer to that email with username? or is there anything needs put in the subject line etc?
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  • Sky_ClaireSky_Claire Member Posts: 1,058
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***) : Did Someone Mention 5 In This Thread????? p.s. Evening Mr H & Happy Birthday Sky Poker.. p.p.s. Reds is rocking tonight!!! xx
    Posted by TRIP5
    It's like he has been doing it for years :)
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  • smarrsmarr Member Posts: 461
    edited February 2012

    Can u analyze this hand?

    Hand History #475979717 (23:17 08/02/2012)

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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited February 2012
    If you could change one thing about the poker industry, what would it be?

    Indian Poker bracelet event. :)
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  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited February 2012
    prob an easy flop fold but i loved seeing the big stacks hand


    476365846 33 bh if you want to show it

    ty


    also is this recommended? :)
    476370162

    oops


    476380430
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  • SHAUNYSHAUNY Member Posts: 508
    edited February 2012
    is the sky roller being shown on tv tonite
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  • TRIP5TRIP5 Member Posts: 3,618
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***):
    In Response to Re: Sky Poker's 5th Birthday Special - with James, Redmond & special guest Alex Rousso (***OFFICIAL LIVE SHOW THREAD***) : It's like he has been doing it for years :)
    Posted by Sky_Claire
    Natural talent.. soooo unfair ;o))

    xx
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  • Sky_ClaireSky_Claire Member Posts: 1,058
    edited February 2012
    None of them in the studio know its snowing outside. We could end up on air all night :)
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  • Sky_DaveSky_Dave Member Posts: 3,288
    edited February 2012
    Question for Alex and Redmond....

    We're celebrating our fifth birthday. How do they think the average online poker player will have evolved when we celebrate our tenth?
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  • penguin7penguin7 Member Posts: 1,095
    edited February 2012
    Playing tournies, I always try to have them starting at different times, so  I concentrate on those getting towards the business end, while letting the ones just starting look after themselves.
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