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DYM - KK, ever considering folding here?

Dudeskin8Dudeskin8 Member Posts: 6,228
edited February 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Big stack hasn't been limping since first level so put him in decent catorgory, apart from that no solid reads.

Basically is short stack short enough to consider him dead plus fact limper might not fold...

Dudeskin8Small blind 75.0075.002362.50
richard925Big blind 150.00225.00850.00
 Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
   
ja2ja2Call 150.00375.001675.00
mysteron55Raise 600.00975.006137.50
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    In Response to DYM - KK, ever considering folding here?:
    Big stack hasn't been limping since first level so put him in decent catorgory, apart from that no solid reads. Basically is short stack short enough to consider him dead plus fact limper might not fold... Dudeskin8 Small blind   75.00 75.00 2362.50 richard925 Big blind   150.00 225.00 850.00   Your hole cards K K       ja2ja2 Call   150.00 375.00 1675.00 mysteron55 Raise   600.00 975.00 6137.50 Dudeskin8
    Posted by Dudeskin8
    Now this one is a toughie, i think I just about fold.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited February 2012
    Didn't I just see you referred to as "Dudenit"? I think this may be an example of that... No, I can't fold KK here, or in almost any other spot pre-flop... maybe a cold 6-bet all-in. :)
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited February 2012
    13bbs.. you cant feel overly confident you'll cash if you nit fold in any case.

    Am always reshipping here.
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  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited February 2012
    I think re-shove, double up most of the time and you're up to 4,600 chips, then you can easily fold into the money. Either that or everyone folds and you're up to 3k. I see a lot of players do that with ATC once they have such a big stack in a DYM, just to try and knock people out as quick as possible.
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    I think this is one of those spots where the higher the buyin the more chance I have of shoving lol
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  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM - KK, ever considering folding here?:
    actually thinking about folding kk with 13 bigs is laughable dym or not 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    It's not laughable given the oppo's stack sizes
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012
    Kings r good, but don't mind the tight fold
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  • SHANXTASHANXTA Member Posts: 1,507
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM - KK, ever considering folding here?:
    actually thinking about folding kk with 13 bigs is laughable dym or not 
    Posted by IDONKCALLU
    u r so far wrong i'm not even gonna bother tryin 2 correct u
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,435
    edited February 2012
    I jamming it in all their eyes.
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  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited February 2012

    f.it fold and watch in horror as BB doubles up with a pr of sixes or something. I dont mind calling (oh no) if I think BB is coming along but if hes anything decent he should find plenty of folds once he see you call.
    Its likely the limper will fold if you do, even fisher players here should know not to be call the raise but who knows.
    So id go into fold for a prize mode.

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2012
    Do we have any fold equity against mysteron?

    Or is he 1 of those big stacks that just goes mental in this position & tries to finish the game asap?

    Ideal scenario is we shove with KK & fold out his equity?

    It's like the opposite of a semi bluff. We can shove hoping for a fold if called then meh, we've likely got 70%+ equity to fall back on ;)

    .....only in a dym eh :P  .........
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  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited February 2012
    In Response to Re: DYM - KK, ever considering folding here?:
    Do we have any fold equity against mysteron? Or is he 1 of those big stacks that just goes mental in this position & tries to finish the game asap? Ideal scenario is we shove with KK & fold out his equity? It's like the opposite of a semi bluff. We can shove hoping for a fold if called then meh, we've likely got 70%+ equity to fall back on ;) .....only in a dym eh :P  .........
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    He has 6000+ chips and hes still playing hands he either unlikely knows what he is doing since he has close to maximum equity in this game as it is or he is just splashing around and having fun, niether or which makes me think we have FE here.
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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited February 2012
    I agree. ^^^

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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012
    Even if range is 30% - 22+,A2+,K5s+,K8o+,Q9s+,QJo,JTs - still fold

    DYM's are so awful )


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  • jackdajackda Member Posts: 501
    edited February 2012
    Yeah its a sigh fold for me.Think big stack calls with most aces and pairs  so for me its a fold.Not good on percentages but think more chance of cashing if fold.
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  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited February 2012

    folding kk pre is just wrong

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  • D_LegendD_Legend Member Posts: 335
    edited February 2012
    have to shove.


    aa is at the top of his range and even if he flips it over u still got outs.

    i looks like ak/ qq over

    plus he on button looks like steal repot or allin standard in this spot.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited February 2012

    While you would not fold KK in a MTT or cash ever

    There are specific situations only In a DYM where you have to nit fold

     

    I am no expert but up to a few weeks ago I would never fold this but now I would )

     

    Only hand I shove here is AA – simples

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  • simonnatursimonnatur Member Posts: 330
    edited February 2012
    surely short stack/monster stack dynamic is something of a double edged sword. For me,  the shorty is roughly as likely to get dbl or trebled up as he is to bust. ( since he is almost g'teed to get called if he shoves against big stack )

    If this happens we will surely regret folding here. I can't fold - but maybe that's why I rarely play these anymore.
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  • pod1pod1 Member Posts: 4,377
    edited February 2012
    i absolutly suck at dyms. just cant get my head around playing for 3rd!!! so do opposite to me and you will do just fine. ps i jam :-)
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