Get yourself 'The Mental Game of Poker' book Don. Your thread title alone shows that you are exactly the sort of person it's written for. I was given the book for Christmas, it really is as good as the reviews say.
if he wants to run it 9 times and has one out you are guranteed to win 8 times. running it more than once doesnt affect the EV it just reduces variance Posted by LOL_RAISE
In a nutshell, though he is not "guaranteed" to win it 8 times. He's likely to win it 9 times though. Bargain of a lifetime that!
To be serious, there's the thing - Don thinks he is unlucky a lot, but he needs to forget luck, make the correct decisions enough times, & he'll come out ahead.
Get yourself 'The Mental Game of Poker' book Don. Your thread title alone shows that you are exactly the sort of person it's written for. I was given the book for Christmas, it really is as good as the reviews say. Posted by GaryQQQ
He's got it, but apparently it "doesn't apply to him" :P
do you moan about good beats as well had aa flop comes a q 7 how do i get his chips he goes all in qq i call gets quods on river afew days later was runnig like a poker god in a bounty hunt
my final hand is 78 im way ahead go all in hes got 67 cards on table 2 3 4 9 10 JUST CARRY ON IF YOU ENJOY THE GAME 10 high wins some times
Get yourself 'The Mental Game of Poker' book Don. Your thread title alone shows that you are exactly the sort of person it's written for. I was given the book for Christmas, it really is as good as the reviews say. Posted by GaryQQQ
+1
All i will say is don "inchworm" read the book and you will understand.
EDIT: seen dohhhhhhh's comment, i don't know what to say then
I know lots of good players that just can not adjust there mind set to the game, with the swings and varaince. They even go as far as saying all online games are fixed - lolz Don has the game, but sadly not the discipline, patience or mind set to beat NL4 Probably still got it in his mind that he should be playing NL50!
OK i play over 3 sites, and live aswell. However im really on the verge of giving up on poker. Tbh i dont know wht to do anymore. I keep getting it in miles ahead and outdrawn on a consistant basis. Now before anyone says variance its short term. This is over around 500K in hands. Ok i believe im an improving player and one always open to learning and on sky i can understand a little because i do post alot of hands and people maybe do get free reads, although ive developing away from posting now to. However my main issue is, bad beats consistantly. Is it time to just throw in the towel ? Posted by The_Don90
Have you proper records to see how bad you are actually running over 500K hands?
Are you a losing player? breakeven? just not winning as much as you would like?
How much money are you losing through tilting v actual bad beats?
You seem to play 4NL here, yet you talk about losing a 500BB pot live - are you rolled properly?
The answer is prob somewhere inbetween the 2 options in thread title. You are prob unlucky at moment, and you probably have leaks. Tilt and bankroll management may well be a problem
My advice would be deposit £100 and play 4NL. Have another £50 ready to deposit if you dip below £80. Go back to basics play straightforward TAG poker and stay at this till you beat it. Keep proper records and review your sessions. No shots, no big money live games etc till you get your confidence back and are playing really good basic poker. You can concentrate on a different game, but cash games will develop your all round poker skills the most imo.
You are definitely good enough to beat lower cash levels here. The question is have you the discipline and mentality to do it
tbf over the last year in periods Don has suffered some negative varience that would severely worsen even the best players win rate...... But it's not been as bad as he thinks it's been. The problem has been the times when he has ran bad.... Deep in mtts which would have huge positive bankroll implications, or on the bubble of sattys into big mtt's. Prob is they hurt more coz the money he stands to win can literally be life changing for him, n that's where he struggles to cope. (remember the milk comment) But if you insist on playing mtt's, then it's not gonna change anytime soon. It's not like you've been on a huge dry run, in the last year you have won, & final tabled mtt's with 4,000+ runners. N it's not like you play 10/20+ mtt's a session like most dedicated MTT players, you're volume has been very poor. -------------------------- By the way all the above explains how I can kind of understand why you feel you're "the unluckiest player ever" in MTT's.... There's no excuse however for your failure to win @ cash games. Only 1 thing to blame for that, n that's yourself for being a nutcase, the varience excuse aint bailling u out of that 1! Posted by DOHHHHHHH
if the bold bit is anywhere near true there is an awful lot more to worry about than just being unlucky especially if it relates to sky mtts.
seriously dont play poker if this is true in anyway
In Response to Re: am i really this bad or am i just the unluckiest player ever, : if the bold bit is anywhere near true there is an awful lot more to worry about than just being unlucky especially if it relates to sky mtts. seriously dont play poker if this is true in anyway Posted by huuuuume
Always thought the money you can possibly win should be relative to your BR
If you decide to buy in to £500 MTT with your wekly wage and you get a bad beat, now that's going to make you cry If you had a 50,000 BR then it wouldn't bother you so much Likewise if you sat in for £10 - you wouldn't give a hoot about the bad beat
It is true, obv didn't intend for it to go into a discussion into his personal life, but it makes it all the more baffling that his family members stake him to play tournys such as the UKIPT's.....
Obv Don's head is in the clouds and aspires to be competing in those sort of events, but myself and several others said at the time that the money could be put to much better use.... (its not like it was a 1 off either).......
Wud you believe this rant was posted moments after busting a £33 UKIPT sat, going out with the best hand.
^edit^ was beaten to it, +1 to Scottys post
(and most others in the thread. Seems you've not made any progress at all in the last year, only so much people can do to help you. You gotta help yourself. I wouldn't encourage you to give up poker becuase I don't think you're anywhere near as bad as your results suggest, but you need to sort your head out. Rather hypocritical coming from myself, but that doesn't mean the advice is wrong.)
+1 to the big tournys, leave them alone. cant remember last me i entered, dont think i did a primo last year either. hate to think what br you would have if you put that entery money into cash (just tell you family you lost if they staked you :-) ). like i say don , there is no difference in our playing ability in fact i would say there are many aspercts you are a lot better, its just attitude mate thats all. gt got it right, wait till you got £100 and deposit, stay disaplined and work up, leave the mtts alone unless £5 or below. bad beats , stand up walk away and sit down when calm. best of luck mate. phil
In Response to Re: am i really this bad or am i just the unluckiest player ever, : if the bold bit is anywhere near true there is an awful lot more to worry about than just being unlucky especially if it relates to sky mtts. seriously dont play poker if this is true in anyway Posted by huuuuume
I don't think JJ means the loss of his buyin is gonna affect his life drastically. I think he was referring to the fact he plays alot of MTTs (on other sites) with massive amounts of runners like 3000-4000 so a 1st place in a tourney like that is gonna be pretty life changing even if it's only a £10 buy-in
In Response to Re: am i really this bad or am i just the unluckiest player ever, : I don't think JJ means the loss of his buyin is gonna affect his life drastically. I think he was referring to the fact he plays alot of MTTs (on other sites) with massive amounts of runners like 3000-4000 so a 1st place in a tourney like that is gonna be pretty life changing even if it's only a £10 buy-in Posted by Lambert180
yeah exactly what jj is referring to.
The issue last night JJ was referring to i was in a 1000 runner deep stack for $2 winner got $750 and with 27 left i took a bad beat for my stack. This post was made shortly after but ive actually been diliberating for a while a posted for general advice.
$750 doesnt sound like alot for many but for me it would be a kick start. A kickstart is what i need.
Tbh this post came up in timing as coincidence. I actually posted it the day my internet got re-connected. It just happpened to be i took several bad beats last night at important times in various tournys/sats too.
In Response to Re: am i really this bad or am i just the unluckiest player ever, : yeah exactly what jj is referring to. The issue last night JJ was referring to i was in a 1000 runner deep stack for $2 winner got $750 and with 27 left i took a bad beat for my stack. This post was made shortly after but ive actually been diliberating for a while a posted for general advice. $750 doesnt sound like alot for many but for me it would be a kick start. A kickstart is what i need. Tbh this post came up in timing as coincidence. I actually posted it the day my internet got re-connected. It just happpened to be i took several bad beats last night at important times in various tournys/sats too. Posted by The_Don90
No offence mate but I really hate these sort of ideas, it's basically just hoping something's going to happen, lets 'hope' I get lucky, lets 'hope' I can win that big MTT, why don't you actually put some **** graft in and work your way up the levels in cash.
I've done it, it was tough at times but I powered on through the beats and got there, succeeded. Yes I know I'm not the best player in the world but I did that one thing which for me felt brilliant and a WHOLE lot more rewarding then binking some MTT.
Good luck mate but you really need to change your mindset very soon.
Playing MTT's underrolled is the most soul-crushing route you can take in poker. The buyin was already too much, so that loss is painful, but also seeing the chunky top prizes which could be 100x your current roll beyond your grasp because you lose a standard flip on the cash bubble is pure devastation to your confidence.
FORGET THEM. You are playing poker as if it's a casino table game. I'll risk too much, hoping it is my time to win big.
I thought I had exceptional patience, until I saw how much time and effort JJ has devoted to you. You may think you're unlucky, but you're lucky to have someone as supportive as him on your side.
I'm not saying anything more on the matter, lest I say something I regret.
Playing MTT's underrolled is the most soul-crushing route you can take in poker. The buyin was already too much, so that loss is painful, but also seeing the chunky top prizes which could be 100x your current roll beyond your grasp because you lose a standard flip on the cash bubble is pure devastation to your confidence. FORGET THEM. You are playing poker as if it's a casino table game. I'll risk too much, hoping it is my time to win big. I thought I had exceptional patience, until I saw how much time and effort JJ has devoted to you. You may think you're unlucky, but you're lucky to have someone as supportive as him on your side. I'm not saying anything more on the matter, lest I say something I regret. Posted by CoxyLboro
and just read this mans blog to see what is possible with talent, hard work and with a solid BRM strategy in place
In Response to Re: am i really this bad or am i just the unluckiest player ever, : and just read this mans blog to see what is possible with talent, hard work and with a solid BRM strategy in place Posted by scotty77
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To be serious, there's the thing - Don thinks he is unlucky a lot, but he needs to forget luck, make the correct decisions enough times, & he'll come out ahead.
+1
All i will say is don "inchworm" read the book and you will understand.
EDIT: seen dohhhhhhh's comment, i don't know what to say then
They even go as far as saying all online games are fixed - lolz
Don has the game, but sadly not the discipline, patience or mind set to beat NL4
Probably still got it in his mind that he should be playing NL50!
Handle the variance and beat the game
btw: run it nine times )
Are you a losing player? breakeven? just not winning as much as you would like?
How much money are you losing through tilting v actual bad beats?
You seem to play 4NL here, yet you talk about losing a 500BB pot live - are you rolled properly?
The answer is prob somewhere inbetween the 2 options in thread title. You are prob unlucky at moment, and you probably have leaks. Tilt and bankroll management may well be a problem
My advice would be deposit £100 and play 4NL. Have another £50 ready to deposit if you dip below £80. Go back to basics play straightforward TAG poker and stay at this till you beat it. Keep proper records and review your sessions. No shots, no big money live games etc till you get your confidence back and are playing really good basic poker. You can concentrate on a different game, but cash games will develop your all round poker skills the most imo.
You are definitely good enough to beat lower cash levels here. The question is have you the discipline and mentality to do it
seriously dont play poker if this is true in anyway
If you decide to buy in to £500 MTT with your wekly wage and you get a bad beat, now that's going to make you cry
If you had a 50,000 BR then it wouldn't bother you so much
Likewise if you sat in for £10 - you wouldn't give a hoot about the bad beat
does this relate :S
The issue last night JJ was referring to i was in a 1000 runner deep stack for $2 winner got $750 and with 27 left i took a bad beat for my stack. This post was made shortly after but ive actually been diliberating for a while a posted for general advice.
$750 doesnt sound like alot for many but for me it would be a kick start. A kickstart is what i need.
Tbh this post came up in timing as coincidence. I actually posted it the day my internet got re-connected. It just happpened to be i took several bad beats last night at important times in various tournys/sats too.