Looking forward to tomorrows diary! #justsaying ;-)) Posted by Glenelg
Haha. Gonna do it now to close out March.
So I decided to have a little fun and play in the cash challenge thing with Neil Channing. I only did the one table as doing both would be unfair to others equally keen to TV Tart. Despite a relapse over the last few weeks I haven't really gone out of my way to do so for a good long while, but I fancied a bit of fun with the Ambo.
I ended up down £20 but it was a good ol laugh. I'm posting the hand I decided to pull out early at the bottom.
Donked in and out of a few MTTs, no returns. Many grumbly sighs on that front.
Total VLV spend to date: £2231.20 - (£1347 in cash returns) = £884.20
Ok to the hand. So in this challenge they have one bullet of £100. I turned my hand into a bluff, it's very early in the session and I don't think myself and Neil have played many hands together in the past. I can give my thinking on it later but rest assured, I am turning my pair into a bluff. Wasn't sure if I went behind on the turn or the river but I felt it was one of them. So I'm trying to get a King, a Queen or even KQ to fold here. Even if I have misread I think a bare 6 doesn't like its spot, and to be truthful neither does medium flushes under the one bullet/TV show condition.
Hey Tommy - How did you get on not playing cash again in March ;-) Seriously though, enjoying the diary, very good read. So are you now officially a 'poker pro' or still 'between jobs' / 'on a break' type thing? I guess the money you made this month is slightly better than a teachers wage and tax free! All the best Greg. Posted by GREGSTER
tyvm Gregster.
Yeah, weirdly I think I have offended someone one Skype by playing again in March at cash, gonna leave the details of that (they were not on the cash table at all) but it is basically 'Gambler decides to not quit as long as he said' headline. Not really surprising. I little bit flummoxed by this person but they've had a really hard day so I am hoping it's all transference.
Anyway, yeah as I said above I just wanted to have some fun, I usually multi table a lot more than I played. And it was a great laugh.
I'm 'between things' in truth. I will probably be between things for a while, although the things I am between may change.
What was this cash challenge thing? Posted by F_Ivanovic
New format on the Sky TV show. Two guests sit at a MC 50nl table, have to sit with £100 and that's their lot for the challenge so only the one bullet over a 90 minute (or busto) time limit. They have a Top Gear style leaderboard and are doing it over a few weeks I think.
Hi Mr D. Well it seems you are doing well being between things. Find it really interesting that one of the best players on the site suffers from a bit of a lack of confidence (think I read that in your diary). I am sure you will turn the MTT form around in UKOPS, the best players always come good at the big events.
. Wasn't sure if I went behind on the turn or the river but I felt it was one of them. Posted by TommyD
REALLY enjoyed the show last night .
On the hand think you're behind on flop but ahead on turn? I DON'T play much cash at these levels but I was surprised not to see a hefty check raise on turn? I think at this stage in the challenge Neil will find a fold? There were so many hands I can't recall what Neil said. He was quite forthright in most of his views last night.
c/c c/c c/s at nl4 would be the nuts but at MC nl50?
i think c/r the turn or just lead on the river might have more chance of getting respect
#lolz trying to give advice to tommyd for cash play
what i meant to say is that I'd have thought you could make him sweat a bit more by giving him earlier decisions than just an all or nothing on the river
hmmm you don't seem to have defined your hand at all c/c c/c c/s at nl4 would be the nuts but at MC nl50? i think c/r the turn or just lead on the river might have more chance of getting respect #lolz trying to give advice to tommyd for cash play what i meant to say is that I'd have thought you could make him sweat a bit more by giving him earlier decisions than just an all or nothing on the river Posted by GELDY
Lolz I felt the same when I was typing but the poor guy has struggled in March so we ALL need to rally round with advice.
On the hand, I didn't think I needed to raise the turn, felt I was probably ahead although the K is not a great card for us. I also thought with the challenge and all he'd check back a lot of his flush draws at that stage. Raising the turn just doesn't look that credible as a bluff to me, I'm repping 6x or 77 there which is somewhat thin and I don't really need to bluff. Also hard to get called by worse if I raise the turn for value.
Not saying I played the hand great btw, just what I was thinking. And everyone should give me advice, I'm just a button clicker after all.
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : New format on the Sky TV show. Two guests sit at a MC 50nl table, have to sit with £100 and that's their lot for the challenge so only the one bullet over a 90 minute (or busto) time limit. They have a Top Gear style leaderboard and are doing it over a few weeks I think. Posted by TommyD
Ah OK thanks. Gutted I don't have sky sports, would have loved to watch + participate in that!!
As for my thoughts on the hand - in theory, I like the play. It's the worst hand we get to the river with and we do block one FH. However, facing a river pot bet would change my mind on the decision to bluff. I think w/o much history it's unlikely to be any sort of merge thin value bet and is way more likely to either be a bluff (maybe with AsJx type hand) or a value hand - flushes and boats. Obviously he's not folding a boat here so it becomes a qn of whether he's folding his flushes - in a random game, he may well fold his flushes in this spot. But given it's for this TV thing and he knows people are more likely to bluff him + he knows your reputation as a great player on sky I think he'll talk himself into a call even with low flushes like the one he showed up with. So yeah I fold and don't worry too much about having no bluffing range in this exact spot - had you played for a lot longer and been percieved very nitty then maybe you can think about the bluff.
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Ah OK thanks. Gutted I don't have sky sports, would have loved to watch + participate in that!! As for my thoughts on the hand - in theory, I like the play. It's the worst hand we get to the river with and we do block one FH. However, facing a river pot bet would change my mind on the decision to bluff. I think w/o much history it's unlikely to be any sort of merge thin value bet and is way more likely to either be a bluff (maybe with AsJx type hand) or a value hand - flushes and boats. Obviously he's not folding a boat here so it becomes a qn of whether he's folding his flushes - in a random game, he may well fold his flushes in this spot. But given it's for this TV thing and he knows people are more likely to bluff him + he knows your reputation as a great player on sky I think he'll talk himself into a call even with low flushes like the one he showed up with. So yeah I fold and don't worry too much about having no bluffing range in this exact spot - had you played for a lot longer and been percieved very nitty then maybe you can think about the bluff. Posted by F_Ivanovic
Was a lovely show man, defo worth getting involved. Tough if you can't get Sky Sports though and of course I would never advocate googling to get an illegal stream of a pay for channel. Actually, I really wouldn't, the GF did that once to watch a Toon match and managed to get so much naked lady pop ups/Trojans/adware on the laptop it took me ages to secure it again. So you know, either really beware or borrow a laptop from someone you don't like.
On the hand, great points. I have gone back and forth a few times on if I like that bluff. Here's the thing with the river action. I should never be bluffing over that pot bet, offering those odds to call and as we both know this, so as such I think I should be bluffing sometimes and can't have a zero bluff range against a player who will soon pick up on this. In my experience an exact pot bet on the river means different things from different people. I put Neil in the category of 'have a strong but not super nutted hand,' if he had the nut flush or houses/quads I think the bet is still chunky but it'll either be an overbet for me to level myself or around the 16/17 mark to give me room to not only value jam but to bluff over the top. So I thought at the time it was KQ, AA all the way up to medium flushes. So I am check/jamming in a spot where I shouldn't really ever be bluffing against a strong but rarely nutted range. Gotta be the goods right?
Or maybe I was just button clicking and as ever, I like to put people in tough spots for my own darkly sick enjoyment. And yes I have just levelled myself into liking the bluff again, that'll change back to hating it the next time I think about it.
But I totally concede in a vacuum probably the best decision on the end is to fold.
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Hmmm, there's about the limit of my poker thinking powers! It's always interesting to read the thoughts on hands from the likes of TommyD... one day some of it might even start to sink in and help me improve Great posts as always and good luck with month 2 of the hunt for Vegas packages! Posted by shakinaces
Cheers man. Don't tell anyone, but I got a good feeling about VLV this month. Shhhh, keep it under ya hat.
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Ah OK thanks. Gutted I don't have sky sports, would have loved to watch + participate in that!! As for my thoughts on the hand - in theory, I like the play. It's the worst hand we get to the river with and we do block one FH. However, facing a river pot bet would change my mind on the decision to bluff. I think w/o much history it's unlikely to be any sort of merge thin value bet and is way more likely to either be a bluff (maybe with AsJx type hand) or a value hand - flushes and boats. Obviously he's not folding a boat here so it becomes a qn of whether he's folding his flushes - in a random game, he may well fold his flushes in this spot. But given it's for this TV thing and he knows people are more likely to bluff him + he knows your reputation as a great player on sky I think he'll talk himself into a call even with low flushes like the one he showed up with. So yeah I fold and don't worry too much about having no bluffing range in this exact spot - had you played for a lot longer and been percieved very nitty then maybe you can think about the bluff. Posted by F_Ivanovic
Pretty harsh being so sarcastic when its his diary
Opps, just realised something which may have come off as a bit rude in these posts regarding that hand and is totally unintentional.
Neil's call is a very good one. He correctly surmised that I have a bluff range in this spot and that I would be putting pressure on him in these conditions. He also has towards the top end of the range I was trying to put under pressure. Throw in the odds offered on the end, it's a very good call and a well played hand from him.
In Response to Re: Many Rivers To Cross. A Diary. : Want a prop bet on who can get the highest score in the Rebuy tonight? Got a good feeling tonight I'll finally break 200. Posted by TommyD
You will just rebuy the most to spite me even at the risk of losing all your cash profits from March!
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Seriously though, enjoying the diary, very good read. So are you now officially a 'poker pro' or still 'between jobs' / 'on a break' type thing?
I guess the money you made this month is slightly better than a teachers wage and tax free!
All the best
Greg.
So I decided to have a little fun and play in the cash challenge thing with Neil Channing. I only did the one table as doing both would be unfair to others equally keen to TV Tart. Despite a relapse over the last few weeks I haven't really gone out of my way to do so for a good long while, but I fancied a bit of fun with the Ambo.
I ended up down £20 but it was a good ol laugh. I'm posting the hand I decided to pull out early at the bottom.
Donked in and out of a few MTTs, no returns. Many grumbly sighs on that front.
So to close out the final figures for March:
March 2015
Points: 34703
Total Profit/loss: +£7742.42
DYMs: - £502.40
Cash: + £10,183.74
MTT: - £1414.92
HU SnG: - £524
Total VLV spend to date: £2231.20 - (£1347 in cash returns) = £884.20
Ok to the hand. So in this challenge they have one bullet of £100. I turned my hand into a bluff, it's very early in the session and I don't think myself and Neil have played many hands together in the past. I can give my thinking on it later but rest assured, I am turning my pair into a bluff. Wasn't sure if I went behind on the turn or the river but I felt it was one of them. So I'm trying to get a King, a Queen or even KQ to fold here. Even if I have misread I think a bare 6 doesn't like its spot, and to be truthful neither does medium flushes under the one bullet/TV show condition.
Thoughts, as always, most welcome.
Yeah, weirdly I think I have offended someone one Skype by playing again in March at cash, gonna leave the details of that (they were not on the cash table at all) but it is basically 'Gambler decides to not quit as long as he said' headline. Not really surprising. I little bit flummoxed by this person but they've had a really hard day so I am hoping it's all transference.
Anyway, yeah as I said above I just wanted to have some fun, I usually multi table a lot more than I played. And it was a great laugh.
I'm 'between things' in truth. I will probably be between things for a while, although the things I am between may change.
gl gl Greg
All the best.
Greg.
Not saying I played the hand great btw, just what I was thinking. And everyone should give me advice, I'm just a button clicker after all.
It's always interesting to read the thoughts on hands from the likes of TommyD... one day some of it might even start to sink in and help me improve
Great posts as always and good luck with month 2 of the hunt for Vegas packages!
On the hand, great points. I have gone back and forth a few times on if I like that bluff. Here's the thing with the river action. I should never be bluffing over that pot bet, offering those odds to call and as we both know this, so as such I think I should be bluffing sometimes and can't have a zero bluff range against a player who will soon pick up on this. In my experience an exact pot bet on the river means different things from different people. I put Neil in the category of 'have a strong but not super nutted hand,' if he had the nut flush or houses/quads I think the bet is still chunky but it'll either be an overbet for me to level myself or around the 16/17 mark to give me room to not only value jam but to bluff over the top. So I thought at the time it was KQ, AA all the way up to medium flushes. So I am check/jamming in a spot where I shouldn't really ever be bluffing against a strong but rarely nutted range. Gotta be the goods right?
Or maybe I was just button clicking and as ever, I like to put people in tough spots for my own darkly sick enjoyment. And yes I have just levelled myself into liking the bluff again, that'll change back to hating it the next time I think about it.
But I totally concede in a vacuum probably the best decision on the end is to fold.
Neil's call is a very good one. He correctly surmised that I have a bluff range in this spot and that I would be putting pressure on him in these conditions. He also has towards the top end of the range I was trying to put under pressure. Throw in the odds offered on the end, it's a very good call and a well played hand from him.