beat 2 hearts flop 5 beat straight beat aj q6 beat a q k 9 beat wif best hand all nite me bad player yer no poker scool me just bad player yer tikka Posted by shann
Hi Shann,
Could you enlarge upon that, please? My apologies, but I'm not entirely clear what you are saying.
regarding recent posts that have made quite an impression on many on the forums. Whats your views on players with learning/mental difficulties in poker. And what sort of advice would you give to these players.
Are people still moaning about bad beats. I have noticed the players that seem to always be moaning about it are the supper tight agressive players that sit there dont play a hand for an hour then shove allin with jacks , queens ect. simple maths the more all your chips are in the middle the more bad beats you will take Posted by Luke_Jones
I'm afraid so, Luke, but we need to be patient & tolerant with them, because those who complain about bad beats are usually relative newcomers to poker.
Bad beats are part & parcel of poker. If they were not, the highly skilled players would win all the money. Fortunately, luck evens up the skill imbalance.
There are some players who moan every day about bad beats, but only because they don't understand how poker works.
tikay, regarding recent posts that have made quite an impression on many on the forums. Whats your views on players with learning/mental difficulties in poker. And what sort of advice would you give to these players. Don Posted by The_Don90
I have very strong feelings on the matter, Don.
As a child, I was classed as "backward" or "retarded", & sent to a Special School, along with the children who had Downs Syndrome or other problems. These days, my condition would be described as having "learning difficulties", hence why I, & many others, take deep offence when we see "bad players" described as "retards", & I nearly throw up when I see some of the expressions used by players who are just sore at losing a hand of poker.
Some of the players who frequent this Community - some of them very prominent players, including one who is in TSP - have children with special needs, too, & I ache for them when I see such insensitive comments.
Poker is a fine medium for those who have various learning difficulties, until they see the comments by insensitive, intolerant & rude individuals who have no regard for others.
Elsadog summed most of it up perfectly, in that no two cases are alike, so I cannot really give general advice.
When I was working (in my "proper" job) I devoted half a day a week for many years voluntarily helping people who lacked literacy & numeracy skills, too, but it is VERY important to differentiate between "laziness" & specific mental conditions, (lack of literacy or numeracy, & conditions such as dyslexia, dyscalculia, etc) as they are easily confused.
I know very many people who suffer from Aspergers, including several close friends, but it affects every sufferer in a different way. But in most cases, Aspergers Syndrome does not affect the ability of someone to play competent & winning poker.
So my view is that every one of us in poker should be respectful towards our opponents. Calling them "idiots" or worse because they call with eccentric hole cards does not cut much ice with me, & I try not to engage with such intolerant individuals.
In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : I have very strong feelings on the matter, Don. As a child, I was classed as "backward" or "retarded", & sent to a Special School, along with the children who had Downs Syndrome or other problems. These days, my condition would be described as having "learning difficulties", hence why I, & many others, take deep offence when we see "bad players" described as "retards", & I nearly throw up when I see some of the expressions used by players who are just sore at losing a hand of poker. Some of the players who frequent this Community - some of them very prominent players, including one who is in TSP - have children with special needs, too, & I ache for them when I see such insensitive comments. Poker is a fine medium for those who have various learning difficulties, until they see the comments by insensitive, intolerant & rude individuals who have no regard for others. Elsadog summed most of it up perfectly, in that no two cases are alike, so I cannot really give general advice. When I was working (in my "proper" job) I devoted half a day a week for many years voluntarily helping people who lacked literacy & numeracy skills, too, but it is VERY important to differentiate between "laziness" & specific mental conditions, (lack of literacy or numeracy, & conditions such as dyslexia, dyscalculia, etc) as they are easily confused. I know very many people who suffer from Aspergers, including several close friends, but it affects every sufferer in a different way. But in most cases, Aspergers Syndrome does not affect the ability of someone to play competent & winning poker. So my view is that every one of us in poker should be respectful towards our opponents. Calling them "idiots" or worse because they call with eccentric hole cards does not cut much ice with me, & I try not to engage with such intolerant individuals. Posted by Tikay10
thanks for a very good responce Tikay, i didnt actually realise this issue was something as close to your heart, and i apprechiate your valid honesty. I wasnt refering to just myself but to all players in general. As you said Elsadog has some great comments and ive asked him if i could speak to him about my own personal circumstances, to which he kindly agreed - top man imo just for that.
how is it possible to avoid idiots like this and i feel i play well and get beat by terrible players every time. please review the hand listed and state why or how those players were even involved. the hand id is 407374874 just shocked how bad players really can be Posted by rumsey
There players are "terrible", but you cannot beat them?
There was a huge Live Tourney this week, called "Goliath", & on my Twitter feed, I saw hundreds of comments about how "lol bad", "weak", & "awful" many of the players were.
The world has gone mad when we complain about "weak", or "bad" opponents!
To beat players who do not play what you or I may deem to be "technically" good poker, it's simple - just adjust your game, & remember to take the long view. If you think you can win every hand, though, you need to adjust your thinking, because you cannot.
There are lots & lots of players who do not play poker very well. Just as well, too, for without them, we would not be able to afford to play the game, would we?
would just like to ask how you fix your cards on here i would like to set up my own site but not sure how to rig the deals and please do not tell me its not rigged i had AA and was called and beat by 5-7 ofcourse they caught the straight then had AA in tourny went allin was called with 10-j and yes they caught the straight too Posted by thecovkid
Hi Covvy,
A-A v 7-5 is only about 78% to win, so the 7-5 will win one time in 5, roughly, which is a 4/1 shot. Play the hand 5 times, & you WILL, on average, lose once. Fact. That assumes, of course, that the Aces were played optimally........
A-A v J-10 is a slightly bigger dog, but still only about 4/1.
I'm not sure how a 4/1 shot winning equates to "rigging the deal", can you make the connection for me, please? 4/1 shots win every day. Roughly one time in 5, in fact. If they did not, then there would be reason to complain!
It's just like real life, Covvy. We take a beat or two along the way, unfairly sometimes, but if we have character & backbone, we just take them in our stride.
been of your site for 4 months how many times do you have to put your chips in when you are in front to start winning the hand just played bounty gone in with ak lost to k8 kk lost q4 99 lost 88 aa lost 79 why is it maybee its my small bank roll its not i dont no how to play can u explain and dont say thats poker its a joke thats what it is
How do you put up with so much whining & moaning, you have the patience of a saint lol. We all hate being beaten with our pocket aces etc and people moan sayin it ALWAYS happens to them, it doesnt, its just that we tend to remember the bad beats....we dont remember when we suck out!
I've been Offline for most of the last 3 days, but I'll pick up this Thread later today, once I've cleared my backlog of "stuff". PS - Message to Dingdell. Posted by Tikay10
Hi Tikay, nibble the fins of the whales in power to see if they can jiggy up the PLO MTT action plz - £20 GTD too low on the £5 tourneys and how can u not have a micro PLO rebuy MTT - greatest tournies in online showbusiness - no rake on the rebuys tho grrrrr THX BOSS (beware the keenberg
Any luck or further progress for the Apprentice prize yet Tikay? Paul Posted by MP33
I think you missed the bove questiojn Tikay, lthough i,m not suprised at this seems to be turning into a bad beat thread or something that belongs in Area 51
Since I posted the above question I have phoned up Sky poker, emailed them and sent PM,s to other Sky Poker Staff. I did get a reply to an email saying they were looking into it and would get back to me when they could but that was nearly a month ago.
I am going to phone up again. Who would you recommend to ask to speak to as its been almost 9 months now since it finished and not long of a year since it started
When people moan about so called bad beats they become abusive, asking the winner about his/her parentage or why did you call my raise, or your not supposed to call out of position.These and many more abusive terms i cannot print.
WELL THINK OF THIS
IF EVERY FAV IN A HORSE RACE WON, THERE WOULDNT BE ANY BOOKIES. AND THATS WHY WE CATCH THE BUS AND THE BOOKIE DRIVES A ROLLS ROYCE
so next time you get a (bad beat) dont be abusive, he maybe the bookie driving home
hi tikay mr pirate again, iv been having abit of trouble latly, iv been gettin in trouble in tournaments, im playing to many hands. not do to over agressive but due to fact im gettin hand after hand, for example iv 3 pocket pair between 5-10 in 5 hands the other 2 hands being ace jack and king queen suited. what do you do when keep gettin hand after consistantly cause odds would suggest your not going to win them all, i wonder if you have any tips on how to play in this situation should i just throw them away or play as normal ?
got a absaulte gem of a hand for u tk dont know how to send it in so ill post it her, when u watch i think ull know whats a about to happen haha #408995269injoy lol
got a absaulte gem of a hand for u tk dont know how to send it in so ill post it her, when u watch i think ull know whats a about to happen haha #408995269 injoy lol Posted by jewpirate1
Hi
I have copied, and pasted this into the sky poker tv channel, play my hand request for you as tikay, like us cannot see anyone elses Hand Histories.
You have been receiving an awful lot of stick recently on the live shows. I am ashamed to say that i have participated recently. But something you said on last nights show gave me an idea which i think is good on a number of levels. I could post it on the forum but then it will be in public view and spoil the surprise if you wish to act on my proposal. So how do i contact you privately ? I'll need an e-mail address but i need to share this with you fairly soon as time is of the essence. Honestly man it'll be worth it.
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Could you enlarge upon that, please? My apologies, but I'm not entirely clear what you are saying.
Thank you.
regarding recent posts that have made quite an impression on many on the forums. Whats your views on players with learning/mental difficulties in poker. And what sort of advice would you give to these players.
Don
Bad beats are part & parcel of poker. If they were not, the highly skilled players would win all the money. Fortunately, luck evens up the skill imbalance.
There are some players who moan every day about bad beats, but only because they don't understand how poker works.
As a child, I was classed as "backward" or "retarded", & sent to a Special School, along with the children who had Downs Syndrome or other problems. These days, my condition would be described as having "learning difficulties", hence why I, & many others, take deep offence when we see "bad players" described as "retards", & I nearly throw up when I see some of the expressions used by players who are just sore at losing a hand of poker.
Some of the players who frequent this Community - some of them very prominent players, including one who is in TSP - have children with special needs, too, & I ache for them when I see such insensitive comments.
Poker is a fine medium for those who have various learning difficulties, until they see the comments by insensitive, intolerant & rude individuals who have no regard for others.
Elsadog summed most of it up perfectly, in that no two cases are alike, so I cannot really give general advice.
When I was working (in my "proper" job) I devoted half a day a week for many years voluntarily helping people who lacked literacy & numeracy skills, too, but it is VERY important to differentiate between "laziness" & specific mental conditions, (lack of literacy or numeracy, & conditions such as dyslexia, dyscalculia, etc) as they are easily confused.
I know very many people who suffer from Aspergers, including several close friends, but it affects every sufferer in a different way. But in most cases, Aspergers Syndrome does not affect the ability of someone to play competent & winning poker.
So my view is that every one of us in poker should be respectful towards our opponents. Calling them "idiots" or worse because they call with eccentric hole cards does not cut much ice with me, & I try not to engage with such intolerant individuals.
ty tikay.
There was a huge Live Tourney this week, called "Goliath", & on my Twitter feed, I saw hundreds of comments about how "lol bad", "weak", & "awful" many of the players were.
The world has gone mad when we complain about "weak", or "bad" opponents!
To beat players who do not play what you or I may deem to be "technically" good poker, it's simple - just adjust your game, & remember to take the long view. If you think you can win every hand, though, you need to adjust your thinking, because you cannot.
There are lots & lots of players who do not play poker very well. Just as well, too, for without them, we would not be able to afford to play the game, would we?
A-A v 7-5 is only about 78% to win, so the 7-5 will win one time in 5, roughly, which is a 4/1 shot. Play the hand 5 times, & you WILL, on average, lose once. Fact. That assumes, of course, that the Aces were played optimally........
A-A v J-10 is a slightly bigger dog, but still only about 4/1.
I'm not sure how a 4/1 shot winning equates to "rigging the deal", can you make the connection for me, please? 4/1 shots win every day. Roughly one time in 5, in fact. If they did not, then there would be reason to complain!
It's just like real life, Covvy. We take a beat or two along the way, unfairly sometimes, but if we have character & backbone, we just take them in our stride.
Since I posted the above question I have phoned up Sky poker, emailed them and sent PM,s to other Sky Poker Staff. I did get a reply to an email saying they were looking into it and would get back to me when they could but that was nearly a month ago.
I am going to phone up again. Who would you recommend to ask to speak to as its been almost 9 months now since it finished and not long of a year since it started
Cheers
Paul
When people moan about so called bad beats they become abusive, asking the winner about his/her parentage or why did you call my raise, or your not supposed to call out of position.These and many more abusive terms i cannot print.
WELL THINK OF THIS
IF EVERY FAV IN A HORSE RACE WON, THERE WOULDNT BE ANY BOOKIES.
AND THATS WHY WE CATCH THE BUS AND THE BOOKIE DRIVES A ROLLS ROYCE
so next time you get a (bad beat) dont be abusive, he maybe the bookie driving home
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I have copied, and pasted this into the sky poker tv channel, play my hand request for you
You have been receiving an awful lot of stick recently on the live shows. I am ashamed to say that i have participated recently. But something you said on last nights show gave me an idea which i think is good on a number of levels. I could post it on the forum but then it will be in public view and spoil the surprise if you wish to act on my proposal.
So how do i contact you privately ? I'll need an e-mail address but i need to share this with you fairly soon as time is of the essence. Honestly man it'll be worth it.