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  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: What is Omaha:
    I see on the site that there are now Omaha games. What are the basics of the game - and what are the best strategies?
    Posted by tarraiai
    See Omaha Hints And Tips for advice
  • DingdellDingdell Member Posts: 166
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: What is Omaha:
    I see on the site that there are now Omaha games. What are the basics of the game - and what are the best strategies?
    Posted by tarraiai
    Hi tarraiai - all you need to know is here - written by Tikay and them corrected by us as the thread goes on....seriously - great introduction to Omaha - enjoy!

    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3aa5c76ef1-0394-4a4b-86f1-6727bbef5c54&plckCurrentPage=0
  • DingdellDingdell Member Posts: 166
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: What is Omaha:
    In Response to Re: What is Omaha : See Omaha Hints And Tips for advice
    Posted by MereNovice
    beat me to it! ;-)
  • TukTukTukTuk Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2009
    I like to play Omaha, but I get the feeling that a lot of players are starting to give it a go on sky without prior knowledge of the game just because its new to Sky, so basically people are playing a bit strangely and this can be very dangerous not just for the rookie but also for those that have been playing for years!!!
    basically I have people making stupid calls and getting lucky a bit more than usuall!!
    So would u avoid a rookie player in Omaha or would u prefer to play them, hoping to outsmart them????
    I think its best to play against solid all round players in Omaha than those looking at all the cards in their hands and just waiting to see if they get lucky!!!!!!!!!!! 
    In Texas holdem i like it the otherway around, give me a rookie anyday!!!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009

    Good Post by tuk tuk, & I know exactly what you mean.

    I'm sort of playing "backwards", letting them bet all the way, & only popping it up when I know I'm good. I tried ONE bluff all week, bet every street, & got Called by One Pair!

    Position is key, too, when you are not sure how your Oppo will react. Being behind someone who you are not quite sure of never fails to be a massive advantage.

    It's worked stunningly well for me. So far.......;)
  • necmitchnecmitch Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2009
    Hi Tikay,
    Please explain why I lost this Omaha hand (Just started to play the game)

    My cards - 2d / 9c / kd / 2c
    Opponents cards - 10s / 6c / 5c / kh

    Flop - Qc / Ad / 10c / Kh

    Turn - Jd

    River - 6h

    Opponent won with straight to the ace

    Hand no - 216443653

    Excuse my ignorance of the game

    Regards
    Stuart (NECMITCH)
  • salazarsalazar Member Posts: 330
    edited December 2009


    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    Hi Tikay, Please explain why I lost this Omaha hand (Just started to play the game) My cards - 2d / 9c / kd / 2c Opponents cards - 10s / 6c / 5c / kh Flop - Qc / Ad / 10c / Kh Turn - Jd River - 6h Opponent won with straight to the ace Hand no - 216443653 Excuse my ignorance of the game Regards Stuart (NECMITCH)
    Posted by necmitch

    What don't you understand? Have you remembered that you must use two cards in your hand? You can not play four on the board and one in your hand, Omaha doesn't work like that I'm afraid. Therefore you have a straight to the king while villain has a straight to the ace, Your nine has to play

    Hope you don't mind me answering this necmitch


    Salazar
  • necmitchnecmitch Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : What don't you understand? Have you remembered that you must use two cards in your hand? You can not play four on the board and one in your hand, omaha, doesn't work like that I'm afraid. Therefore you have a straight to the king while villain has a straight to the ace, Your nine has to play Hope you don't mind me answering this necmitch Salazar
    Posted by salazar

    Thanks Salazar, it must have been luck last night winning the £200 Omaha !!!! - now I know for sure - cheers

  • salazarsalazar Member Posts: 330
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Thanks Salazar, it must have been luck last night winning the £200 Omaha !!!! - now I know for sure - cheers
    Posted by necmitch
    No Problem. I think it's a mistake most people make when they first move from hold-em to omaha.


    Salazar
  • TukTukTukTuk Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2009

    To add to my earlier post and the two post that follwed
    SEE WHAT I MEAN!! :(
    LOL

  • necmitchnecmitch Member Posts: 9
    edited December 2009
    In Response to last 2 posts:
    To add to my earlier post and the two post that follwed SEE WHAT I MEAN!! :( LOL
    Posted by TukTuk
    We all have to learn Tuk Tuk !!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009

    Hi Mitch,

    Salazar's answer is spot on.

    Very well done on winning the £200 Guaranteed - Omaha is weird - I've seen many a complete newbie win at almost the first time of asking, simply because their unconventional play confuses everyone! A seasoned Omaha player rercognizes scary boards & folds, whereas newbies bet away merrily!

    Now, two points for you.

    1) Please enable "SHOW HAND DESCRIPTIONS", via the Options Tab. Your hand will then be described for you by the software, & shown on the Table (for you only!) just under the Community Cards.

    2) Try reading "Handy Hints & Tips for Complete Beginners". There's a wealth of stuff in there, most of which is very good. And some by me. Read it, you cannot fail to improve.

    If I can find it for you, I'll put up a link.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009

    There you go Mitch, it's here

    it's here.... 

    https://www.skypoker.com/secure/poker/sky_lobby?action=show_static&page=poker_community_forums&plckForumPage=ForumDiscussion&plckDiscussionId=Cat%3a57795ac2-1793-4377-b4cf-e124b0f555f4Forum%3adf77f82c-151f-4bea-aae1-fb423dcae1faDiscussion%3aa5c76ef1-0394-4a4b-86f1-6727bbef5c54

    I really MUST learn how to do those clever links! Can someone remind me, please?

    EDIT - Mere sent me a PM explaining how to do it. 17 attempts later, I still can't do it......
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    Hellllllo Mr Kendall I was wondering if thier was any players out thier who shove queen FOUR ? Anyway UKIPT - As you know is a pokerstars new tour has launched and i wondered if sky would be attending / covering this eveent in anyway ? I'm thinking no as its a stars tour but could be a couple of sky people thier to say hi to :)
    Posted by Nutter5932
    Sigh, that was creative stuff, Level 4, see?

    I'm, not sure if I or Sky Poker will be at any of the UKIPT Events - they may or may not be, we'll have to see......

    Good Luck if you play any.

  • MAXALLYMAXALLY Member Posts: 17,645
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    Hi Mitch, Salazar's answer is spot on. Very well done on winning the £200 Guaranteed - Omaha is weird - I've seen many a complete newbie win at almost the first time of asking, simply because their unconventional play confuses everyone! A seasoned Omaha player rercognizes scary boards & folds, whereas newbies bet away merrily! Now, two points for you. 1) Please enable "SHOW HAND DESCRIPTIONS", via the Options Tab. Your hand will then be described for you by the software, & shown on the Table (for you only!) just under the Community Cards. 2) Try reading "Handy Hints & Tips for Complete Beginners". There's a wealth of stuff in there, most of which is very good. And some by me. Read it, you cannot fail to improve. If I can find it for you, I'll put up a link.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Hi Tikay

    Is there any way of showing hand descriptions AFTER you fold?. I know other sites do it but I may be missing something here on Sky Poker. For us newbies, it will be helpfull when learning Omaha
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    hi tikay just wondered did u ever get a answer for me from dp on reading my email out on air if i won a seat into the santas sack or did i not get lucky also wondered did u give away your 3 seats in last nights 22 deepie ???? thanks for the advice as well i tighten right up and won last night so many thanks having a good run of late thats your sleep stack i won couple of weeks ago the bounty hunter last night i won and the 22 deepie i won all with your advice so thanks sim75
    Posted by sim75
    Hi sim,

    Sorry, but I've got no idea if you won the Spot Prize on the Show, but I know your e-Mail was read out. I was not "on" the Show, so can't help there. Try writing to the Producer (Chris Cohen) at
    skyopen@bskyb.com , he may be able to assist.

    No, I did not give away any of the Spot Prizes I had available in the £22 Deepie, but I did give them away in another Tourney.

    I'm delighted you won the Deepie, & it was remarkable how you changed your game mid-Tourney. When you started BETTING with air instead of CALLING with air, everything improved for you. I wish with every ounce of my poker body that I could explain to players the huge difference betwen those two approaches. Put simply, if you keep Calling light against tight players, you'll get lucky now & again. Busting Aces twice in 10 minutes by CALLING with garbage is nice, but over time, CALLING arbage will get you in deep, deep trouble, & you'll end up skinto-busto. 100% Guaranteed. BET with garbage - that's GOOD!

    Well done you.


  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay? : Hi Tikay Is there any way of showing hand descriptions AFTER you fold?. I know other sites do it but I may be missing something here on Sky Poker. For us newbies, it will be helpfull when learning Omaha
    Posted by MAXALLY
    I'm not sure I understand the question Max.

    It shows the Hand Description the moment the Flop, Turn, & River appear - in other words, BEFORE you fold.

    Am I misunderstanding your question?
  • MereNoviceMereNovice Member Posts: 4,364
    edited December 2009
    No, unfortunately, once you have folded your hand you do not get the hand description and there is no way to turn it on. It's a good exercise to try and work it out for yourself, though.
  • Patching99Patching99 Member Posts: 446
    edited December 2009
    Hi Tikay,

    I started playing poker on Sky about two months ago now.  I'm absolutely loving the game and been on it nearly everyday since.  I have been playing in the freerolls as a way of learning the game and making a lot of mistakes which I know I have learnt from. 

    Would you recommend any cash tournaments for a relative beginner as I think I am now ready to lose some cash?
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 173,596
    edited December 2009
    In Response to Re: Ask Tikay?:
    Hi Tikay, I started playing poker on Sky about two months ago now.  I'm absolutely loving the game and been on it nearly everyday since.  I have been playing in the freerolls as a way of learning the game and making a lot of mistakes which I know I have learnt from.  Would you recommend any cash tournaments for a relative beginner as I think I am now ready to lose some cash?
    Posted by Patching99
    Hi Patch,

    Yes. I unhesitatingly recommend playing Deepstacks. These happen at 15 minutes past every hour, & start at, I think, £2.20.

    There is a lot of luck in poker, & the faster the structure, & less starting chips you have, the more luck plays a part.

    The Deepstacks have 5,000 chips, & a nice slow clock and structure.

    Providing you have patience, & are very selective in the first 2 hours as to what hands to play, & in what position, you'll do OK in them if you understand the basics of poker.

    You can even try a little trick. NEVER Call - ONLY enter a Pot if you feel you can Raise with your hand. It's surprisingly effective.

    Most people still play too many hands, too - one hand every two orbits (on average) is plenty in the first few hours. Those who play every other hand will never, ever ever, win in the long-term.

    Play less hands, exercise patience, bet don't call. It's that simple.
    Good Luck.
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