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Poker tracker software/ Bankroll advice
floppy1981
Member Posts: 15
Hi everyone,
First post so be kind please, I have been playing on skypoker on and off for a couple of years now and it has mostly just been for recreational reasons however i now want to take it a lot more seriously and take it to the next level. I absolutely love playing poker and feel i would benefit from anyone willing to give me advice on poker tracker software i have done a fair amount of research regarding this and i dont think i am any clearer on this subject can it be used alongside sky poker for instance? also what poker software actually works and is fairly easy to use? I would also really appreciate some advice on bankroll management, Do you have different bankroll for sit n go's compared to cash or tournaments?
thanks in advance for any advice and also would like to say many congrats to the orford family on their new arrival
First post so be kind please, I have been playing on skypoker on and off for a couple of years now and it has mostly just been for recreational reasons however i now want to take it a lot more seriously and take it to the next level. I absolutely love playing poker and feel i would benefit from anyone willing to give me advice on poker tracker software i have done a fair amount of research regarding this and i dont think i am any clearer on this subject can it be used alongside sky poker for instance? also what poker software actually works and is fairly easy to use? I would also really appreciate some advice on bankroll management, Do you have different bankroll for sit n go's compared to cash or tournaments?
thanks in advance for any advice and also would like to say many congrats to the orford family on their new arrival
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I'm sure other answers will offer sound BRM advice. At the moment I'm using a 40 buy-ins rule for a BR challenge (MTT and SnG only), it's served me very well.
Good luck.
cheers
For instance, some people would say it's fine to play 6-man SnGs with £5 buyins if you have £100, but very few would suggest you play £5 MTTs with £100.
My personal suggestion is that, assuming you have a basic understanding of what you're doing, your bankroll rules if you had £100 should roughly be:
MTTs - Best to stick to £1 tournies, maybe the odd £2 (you want AT LEAST 50 buy-ins)
Heads Up - I'd say you can start about £3.15 games (you want AT LEAST 30 buy-ins for low stakes where the opponents are worse)
Cash - If you're playing micro stakes 2p/4p up to 5p/10p, AND you're tight, then 20 buy-ins should be enough (£80 for 2p/4p, £160 for 4p/8p and £200 for 5p/10p)
Standard SnGs - I'd say about 30 buy-ins is plenty.
The important thing is, if you have £100 and can play £3.15 SnGs, then you lose £40 and only have £60, you HAVE to drop down a level to say £2.10 games.
You should try posting some hands in 'The Clinic' if you want any advice on how you played a particular hand
Good Luck
b/roll management is very important imo
when starting to build a b/roll.
it,s so easy once u have built up a few quid
to start playing above your roll,
(i,ve done it,and i,m sure plenty of others have too).
u really should stick to the 5% rule.
if u have a roll of say £100
don,t risk playing with more than £5 at any one time.
if u can,t manage that,
then 10% at worst.
good luck
:-)
devon
Not in the emails they've sent me and quoted 'not allowed' numerous times. Not supported would mean it didn't work.
Considering you're one of the people who's admitted to using it I'm surprised you commented!
Edit: actually yeah you're right - I was reading 'supported' as 'being able to work', I presume Sky saying not supported means not backing/encouraging it. (Though they have quoted 'not allowed' to me a few times in chat/emails).
Still doesn't change the fact that many regulars like yourself, use it.
Gentlemen, lets not be getting personal please, or you'll have yourselves to blame if the Thread gets closed, which will kill the dabate.
The Terms & Conditions of SkyPoker.com are quite clear on "third party tracking software".
There is no ambiguity as to SkyPokers position on this, none whatsoever.
Each individual player has control of their own HH's, no other agency can access them. There are always attempts to circumvent this, & Sky Poker will continue to monitor & adjust as they see fit.
Third party tracking software is NOT supported on or by Sky Poker.
Tracking Software < Brain
With the greatest of respect Tikay, when someone sends an email of a screenshot of a regular player using tracking software working on a 'particular' site and the reply just reads like a foreign call centre stating it's 'not supported', it's rather annoying when you have to continue playing that regular player.
Personally, I prefer playing by instinct now anyway, plus you get to know how the 'regulars' play pretty much anyway. I have used traking software on other sites, however, as the previous poster said also, the reason I started playing on Sky was because I believed it wasn't possible for them to work on here, as that it was I was led to believe. Let's just say I'm very disappointed in one or two aspects of this site, although 95% of it it fantastic.
Would it not be advisable for someone to just post how it is possible to use tracking software on SkyPoker. This would then create a level playing field, end all debate / arguments and give each individual the option to use / not to use. I would imagine that if people know how to use it then the majority of high end players are using it and even if it is available the majority of lower stakes recreational players would not bother, hence making very little difference to how the games currently run.
Dont know if its works well though.
By it's very nature Sky Poker are not going to disclose precisely what they do to prevent
people use tracking software, but it is a moving target, as people try to get round it,
then further "actions" & steps are taken to deal with it.
I'm afraid that's as much as you are going to get from Sky Poker, or me, sorry.
I try to answer as many questions here as honestly & openly as I am able, but the "how,
when & why" of some things cannot really be discussed here, for obvious reasons........
there was a player called glifulose who had designed a way for some well known tracking software to work successfully on sky poker. he sent a pm around to all the regulars at nl50+ offering to sell the piece of software he created that made sky poker compatible with the tracking software. no idea how many people bought it etc but there was a screenshot included in the message that went round that showed it working and i have no reason to doubt that he has successfully created a way to track sky games.
if you google his name you will find his blog where you can contact him. also on his blog you will see he is pretty much busto so make of that what you will
Seems like a bad comparison, since if someone is noting all hands in a spreadsheet, its going to be a lot harder then simply running a program in the background and letting it track for them. And not only tracking hands, but also displaying stats beside your opponents.
There is no doubt that huds provide a massive advantage. Not only this, but on most sites its very easy to datamine hands you werent even involved in.
There doesnt seem to be any trust worthy tracking software out there for sky poker, but Im sure there is a people using huds anyway.
If sky poker are actively catching and stopping people using HUDS, thats fine.
As far as I know sites like pokerstars decided to let huds be used because it would be too hard to stop their use and felt it was better to leave everyone on a level playing field rather then penalise those obeying the rules.