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Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box

EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
edited April 2012 in Poker Chat
Annoys me so much. If someone calls a 4-bet for their entire stack with KJ and gets lucky, don't start calling them a fish in the chat box, telling them that calling 40bb off with KJ is a bad play long term, etc.

Just saw exactly what I've described in the rebuy open from a regular on the site, who should know better than to

1) Educate the people who are going to be profitable to play against long term whilst sat at the table with them.
2) Abuse people in the chat box.
3) Have such bad manners considering everyone on here is over 18 and is supposed to be mature and know better.

Why the **** do people do this? Abusing and educating losing players at the table is stupidity at it's finest.

Rant over.
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  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    Annoys me so much. If someone calls a 4-bet for their entire stack with KJ and gets lucky, don't start calling them a fish in the chat box, telling them that calling 40bb off with KJ is a bad play long term, etc. Just saw exactly what I've described in the rebuy open from a regular on the site, who should know better than to 1) Educate the people who are going to be profitable to play against long term whilst sat at the table with them. 2) Abuse people in the chat box. 3) Have such bad manners considering everyone on here is over 18 and is supposed to be mature and know better. Why the **** do people do this? Abusing and educating losing players at the table is stupidity at it's finest. Rant over.
    Posted by EvilPingu
    IS IT MY GO NOW ??
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    In Response to Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box : IS IT MY GO NOW ??
    Posted by spornybol
    Go for it :P
  • spornybolspornybol Member Posts: 8,212
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box : Go for it :P
    Posted by EvilPingu
    BEST I LEAVE, TILL GET REPLY FROM MOVED THREAD TOO AREA 51 ?? OR I WILL BE !!!!! TO BE HONEST NOT PLAYING AFTER THAT. TRIED COUPLE GAMES BUT WAS TOO ANNOYED SO ON TILT AND AS NORM, NO RESPONSE FROM SKY. NOT WASTING ANYMORE MONEY TILL I GET AN HONEST ANSWER
  • shaun84shaun84 Member Posts: 685
    edited April 2012
    I seem to recall Neil Channing the poker legend saying exactly the same thing on the show last week. He even recalled a story of someone doing it in a cash game he was playing in. He said educating someone away from the tables like on the 865 show was fine but doing it at the table with a player was a silly thing to do as it is like taking money out of your pocket if they follow your advice.
  • pryce6pryce6 Member Posts: 1,058
    edited April 2012
    Could this not have gone in your diary?

    Yes you have morals bla bla bla you've brought it to the attention of the community zzzzz.

    Sometimes people get tilted and say stuff, happens.
  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited April 2012
    I was on the same table at the time and by saying do not tap the tank you are saying the guy/girl in question is a fish and a losing player but i have often seen this player do well on here and his/her results are not bad. The play at that time was bad but we all have bad moments.

    I think most people has at sometime said something maybe they regret in the chatbox after taking a bad beat at an important situation ,(which this was). 

    Nothing i read was that bad , sarcastic maybe ,rude no.
    I think maybe you insinuating that the player in question is a fish/losing player on this forum is just as bad as what was said. 
     
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    I was on the same table at the time and by saying do not tap the tank you are saying the guy/girl in question is a fish and a losing player but i have often seen this player do well on here and his/her results are not bad. The play at that time was bad but we all have bad moments. I think most people has at sometime said something maybe they regret in the chatbox after taking a bad beat at an important situation ,(which this was).  Nothing i read was that bad , sarcastic maybe ,rude no. I think maybe you insinuating that the player in question is a fish/losing player on this forum is just as bad as what was said.   
    Posted by jonjo75
    Someone takes a bad beat near the bubble. Guess what...it happens in every Poker tournament ever. Get over it, people. It's a game... There's more important things to get upset about than Poker.

    It may not have been the worst abuse ever at a table, but nonetheless, it's still unnecessary. What does tapping the tank and telling the villain they did something wrong achieve? Either the villain thinks "This community aren't very nice, I'm going to play on another site instead", or they remember that someone abused them for getting 40bb in with KJ and don't make the same bad play next time.

    Either way, it achieves nothing.

    Also, I'm not saying that the player in question is a fish - Even if I was, then I haven't named the villain, so I don't see any issue. Yes, they did one thing which was a bit fishy, and in hindsight, they would probably admit that themselves.

    My problem is that if the player who loses the hand perceives that player as being a fish, then why on earth would you tell them and abuse them about it?
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited April 2012
    Playing at naps in sheffield recently, the drunk table whale did something totally eccentric shall we say lost a load. The player who won the pot stood up called him every awful name he could think of,even though he won the pot. I had a go at the guy asking him why he did it and he said he didnt like playing against terrible players, he hated them. I complained to dealer but nothing happened as its a really badly run card room. To be fair all card rooms near me are run extremly badly.

    Also, never educate anyone how to play poker, every time someone posts in the poker clinic, teaches someone how to play etc, its like burning money.
  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    dont think its an issue calling someone a fish for playing bad if they call every street for not the right odds and dont respect your raises. I dont think it will make them think about there play to be honest and they will do it regardless if there that sort of player. What it can do sometimes is put them on tilt even more gaining you an advantage. after all everyone can say what they like in the chat box as long as its not abuse! i dont think starting a thread saying that a reg shouldnt is justified to be fair. Each have there own opinion on it and if you dont want to do it fair enough. I can see your point about not tapping the tank as you dont want a bad player to know your on to him which i agree wont help in the long run. Everyone is entitled to a rant now and then and perhaps that player has been going through a bad run of fish hitting constantly and he was just a bit fed up of it.
  • scotty77scotty77 Member Posts: 4,970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    Also, never educate anyone how to play poker, every time someone posts in the poker clinic, teaches someone how to play etc, its like burning money.
    Posted by ajs4385
    This is really wrong and such shortsighted thinking.
  • WHOAMI196WHOAMI196 Member Posts: 1,170
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box : This is really wrong and such shortsighted thinking.
    Posted by scotty77
    Agree
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    Playing at naps in sheffield recently, the drunk table whale did something totally eccentric shall we say lost a load. The player who won the pot stood up called him every awful name he could think of,even though he won the pot. I had a go at the guy asking him why he did it and he said he didnt like playing against terrible players, he hated them. I complained to dealer but nothing happened as its a really badly run card room. To be fair all card rooms near me are run extremly badly. Also, never educate anyone how to play poker, every time someone posts in the poker clinic, teaches someone how to play etc, its like burning money.
    Posted by ajs4385

    lol -
  • ajs4385ajs4385 Member Posts: 455
    edited April 2012
    I do help people how to play poker, as I find it rewarding but if you help someone to learn the game they are a tougher opponent hence you dont make as much. Forums is one of the reasons why the game has got tougher over the years and its harder to make money. 

    Not trying to be argumentative but surly if players are more knowledgable you cant make as much?


  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box : This is really wrong and such shortsighted thinking.
    Posted by scotty77
    +1

  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    I do help people how to play poker, as I find it rewarding but if you help someone to learn the game they are a tougher opponent hence you dont make as much. Forums is one of the reasons why the game has got tougher over the years and its harder to make money.  Not trying to be argumentative but surly if players are more knowledgable you cant make as much?
    Posted by ajs4385
    you have to remember that forum players like to learn and as such improve but we are a small minority of the overal players so helping players on here isnt really going to affect you as a whole. You may pick up certain things from players that post if you meet them at the table, but generally i dont play against people on the forum that often and if i do it a lot more fun. The vast majority dont post on here and as such dont learn maybe as much as we do so you are at an advantage against the ones who dont. Infact the only time i get too play people on the forum is mainly on a monday night in the dtd.
  • SlykllistSlykllist Member Posts: 2,888
    edited April 2012
    Hmmmmm....

    Wasn't me was it Pingu?  Think I may have reacted to a beat where the guy made trip J's when I had him dominated not long before the bubble, but don't think I said anything out of turn.
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    Hmmmmm.... Wasn't me was it Pingu?  Think I may have reacted to a beat where the guy made trip J's when I had him dominated not long before the bubble, but don't think I said anything out of turn.
    Posted by Slykllist
    Nope.
  • GREGHOGGGREGHOGG Member Posts: 7,155
    edited April 2012
    Please don't let it be me...
  • Spad3sSpad3s Member Posts: 269
    edited April 2012
    Terrible behaviour
  • beanehbeaneh Member Posts: 4,079
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box:
    In Response to Re: Tapping the tank and educating in the chat box : This is really wrong and such shortsighted thinking.
    Posted by scotty77

    nah it's just why he's still utterly appalling.


    would love to play against the people he's coached. ROFL.
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