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bubbled the super roller with kk

THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
edited April 2012 in Poker Chat
ive just bubbled the super roller with KK, blinds at 2000 - 4000, i have a stack of 68.000, guy under the gun raises 4x i shove all in and he turns over 88, spikes the 8, SHOVE OR FOLD BEARING IN MIND THERES A GUY WITH ONLY 1 1/2 BIG BLINDS LEFT!!! I JUST COULDNT FOLD BUBBLE OR NOT!!! I FEEL SICK AS A PARROTT THO!!!!
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  • badcawlbadcawl Member Posts: 97
    edited April 2012
    In Response to bubbled the super roller with kk:
    ive just bubbled the super roller with KK, blinds at 2000 - 4000, i have a stack of 68.000, guy under the gun raises 4x i shove all in and he turns over 88, spikes the 8, SHOVE OR FOLD BEARING IN MIND THERES A GUY WITH ONLY 1 1/2 BIG BLINDS LEFT!!! I JUST COULDNT FOLD BUBBLE OR NOT!!! I FEEL SICK AS A PARROTT THO!!!!
    Posted by THEROCK573
    I nearly bubbled with KK.....should have folded pre to the table bully....folded on flop tho...unlucky you were :(
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  • kidwizzz78kidwizzz78 Member Posts: 158
    edited April 2012
    Unlucky rock thats a sick one! , i guess if you flat the raise or even 3bet and see a flop without goin in you stil go broke if an ACE doesnt hit

    And ino i couldnt fold KK pre but if i sattelited in and i could really do with the money then yea i wouldnt question a fold due to that short stack pretty much goin out for sure with next few hands
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited April 2012
    Thats poker!
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubbled the super roller with kk:
    Thats poker!
    Posted by YOUNG_GUN
    You're a cold-hearted man. lol
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  • CHILLIECHILLIE Member Posts: 432
    edited April 2012
    i think u say it all when the short has 1and a half big blinds its an easy fold and u cash even if u have aa its a fold to the money imo
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  • GaryQQQGaryQQQ Member Posts: 6,804
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubbled the super roller with kk:
    i think u say it all when the short has 1and a half big blinds its an easy fold and u cash even if u have aa its a fold to the money imo
    Posted by CHILLIE
    There's no way I'm ever folding KK or AA on a tournament bubble regardless of the other stacks. If I'm in it I'm in it to win it. Folding monsters to guarantee a mincash is a -ev strategy in my opinion.

    In fact I'd suggest the opposite. If there are a lot of satellite qualifiers in the field who tighten up to make the money it's a good idea to widen up your opening range and pick up lots of easy chips.

    Rock can leave with his head held high, he was very unlucky this time, but he 100% made the correct play. As Young Gun says that's poker.
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  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubbled the super roller with kk:
    i think u say it all when the short has 1and a half big blinds its an easy fold and u cash even if u have aa its a fold to the money imo
    Posted by CHILLIE
    Maybe in the World series of poker main event if you satellited in for £100 and you need the cash you can but in this tourney for £200 absolutely no way , never ,ever !!
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2012
    We looking to min cash or get healthy?

    VUL THEROCK.

    Who won?  Watched about 40 mins @ 300/600 lvl where Nagrom and batkin were pretty much owning it.

    What was with all the limping @ 6 handed table in £110BI?

    Grim Limp call coolers, wanted to throw something at the screen :p

    Guess result of decent portion of field sating in.
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  • SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,737
    edited April 2012
    Similar to me THEROCKS but I went 2 off the bubble in 43rd.  blinds 1500/3000 I have 90k so sitting comfotably and cd just fold for min cash if that was what I wanted... but get KK early pos do standard raise; get a 3bet from player with double my stack; I jam he calls TT hits T on turn sob sob.  Also wnet one off the bubble in TSP play off with QQ v AQ A on river.  bad night.
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  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited April 2012
    chew pillow?

    VUL.
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER Member Posts: 1,435
    edited April 2012
    There is NO WAY im folding KK on the bubble, I would have done exactly the same. If all your looking for is a min cash in this sort of MTT you might as well play a £110 dym. 

    KK holds against the lower pair as it does more than 80% of the time, its a cooler and why we always come back for more. It just could be our lucky night.

    VUL to the two KK hands. 
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  • Bobsicool3Bobsicool3 Member Posts: 210
    edited April 2012
    If I wud of seen someone fold KK pre I wud turn the tele off and go and do some ironing!!!
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited April 2012
    thanks for the input guys, i dont no why i even asked the question cos if it happended again 1000 times i wud still neva lay down kk!!!!
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  • MohicanMohican Member Posts: 1,436
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubbled the super roller with kk:
    i think u say it all when the short has 1and a half big blinds its an easy fold and u cash even if u have aa its a fold to the money imo
    Posted by CHILLIE
    LOLz at this advice. The only time I'd even consider doing this is in a satellite,cos the shorty is likely to go out soon. Otherwise I'm getting them all in the middle,whatever stage the tourney's at. Winning this hand would've given him a good chance of making it further up the cash ladder where the serious money is and getting to the serious money is what playing tourneys is all about,not min cash every time.
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  • Wacko90Wacko90 Member Posts: 906
    edited April 2012
    I know how you feel rock came one of bubble in ukops main, it's a horrible place to be after playing for so long and getting nothing back. 

    Gary in this situation what you are saying is ridiculous. A lot of players would of satellites in for 5 or 24 so a min cash is huge to those people. But in the long run yes it's negative. If the min cash meant a lot to you rock then in future just fold, if it doesn't then fine go with kk, vul though sir and solly too it's a sick place to be!


    Edit- you bought in so super standard spot here, just saying if your playing well well above your br just fold kk, it's one pair at the end of the day. Ul though mate, nasty spot to be In!
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubbled the super roller with kk:
    I know how you feel rock came one of bubble in ukops main, it's a horrible place to be after playing for so long and getting nothing back.  Gary in this situation what you are saying is ridiculous. A lot of players would of satellites in for 5 or 24 so a min cash is huge to those people. But in the long run yes it's negative. If the min cash meant a lot to you rock then in future just fold, if it doesn't then fine go with kk, vul though sir and solly too it's a sick place to be!
    Posted by Wacko90
    i bought dierectly in so a min cash doesnt mean anything really, just nice to get a return afta uve sat for so long especially when theres a guy with only a blind left!!!
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited April 2012
    In Response to Re: bubbled the super roller with kk:
    Similar to me THEROCKS but I went 2 off the bubble in 43rd.  blinds 1500/3000 I have 90k so sitting comfotably and cd just fold for min cash if that was what I wanted... but get KK early pos do standard raise; get a 3bet from player with double my stack; I jam he calls TT hits T on turn sob sob.  Also wnet one off the bubble in TSP play off with QQ v AQ A on river.  bad night.
    Posted by SoLack
    very unlucky solack, ive shared quite a few tables with u in the 9.00 rollers and have seen u get ur chips in way ahead on the bubble and bust out!!! it hurts like ****!!!
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  • YOUNG_GUNYOUNG_GUN Member Posts: 8,948
    edited April 2012
    LOL @ ppl who will fold KK
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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited April 2012
    If your plan is too min cash just enter a £110 double your money instead.  In a tournament im looking for every spot i can get to ladder up.
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  • huuuuumehuuuuume Member Posts: 569
    edited April 2012

    if the min cash (~£217) is a big boost to your roll just fold the KK and switch up the gears once you've cashed. sometimes you've got to swallow your pride and admit that its more important not to go out than it is to play the hand well.

    in this situation you had a ~20% chance of losing £217 if your KK gets cracked

    edit - as you bought in direct its super standard...ul

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