Found out that you dont get any points for the rake you pay for a tourney unless you finish high up. Payed 110 pounds(10 rake) for the easter sunday tourney and expected to get 100 points, got nothing. Cant understand why this is. I think only the top 20 out of the 340 entries get any points for the rake they paid. Doesnt seem very fair. Posted by Spad3s
Everyone got 100 C4P, if you didn't then you should've.
Check my name in the poker points league thing. I have 0 for MTT.
I exchanged around 10 emails with sky support(even sent screenshots) about this asking if my MTT points should be 0 or should have something for tourneys and they said I only get points for tourneys if I finish in top 20.
Maybe there is a communication breakdown. Sky system is confusing.
Check my name in the poker points league thing. I exchanged around 10 emails with sky support about this asking if my MTT points should be 0 or should have something for tourneys and they said I only get points for tourneys if I finish in top 20. Maybe there is a communication breakdown. Sky system is confusing. Posted by Spad3s
you are confusing poker points n league ponts.
you will have received 100 poker points for playing in tourney which contribute towards your c4p. this total can be viewed on your homepage or account section, they have absolutley no bearing on league points which are awarded for finishing positions in sng n mtt n also points for winning a hand in cash
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : that is not how it works. as things currently stand the amount of points you get is not directly linked to how much you pay in rake e.g. sky do not look at how much rake you have paid and decide to return a certain % as is usually the case with rakeback on other poker sites. you are awarded points depending on the number of raked hands you are involved in not how much rake you contribute to the pot (see weighted contribution thread) so no it is not rakeback e.g. if you are dealt in for 20 hands you will get a certain number of points which doesnt change regardless of how much you contribute to the rake during these hands. you get the same points if you fold every hand or if you play every hand so therefore it has nothing to do with how much you pay in rake. obviously the more hands you play the more points you get but you do not get more points for contributing a greater amount to the rake so therefore it is not the same as rakeback cash for points is a reward based on the number of hands played - more hands = more reward. Posted by huuuuume
I was mainly speaking of MTTs and STTs.
Although in cash it will be variable, on average each month if you put in the same volume, you would get roughly the same % back in C4P as other months.
Okay.... So what are these league points for?. Do I need to take a course on the sky poker promotions, rake, cash for points calcuation etc Posted by Spad3s
league points are or were mainly for qualification on to team sky poker. top 30 from each discipline were invited into a tourney to earn their place on the team but dont know how it will work in future as they are rejigging the tsp thing.
other than that if you finish in the top 150 of each discipline in a month you are invited to a freeroll where 20 £110 roller seats are on offer.
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : league points are or were mainly for qualification on to team sky poker. top 30 from each discipline were invited into a tourney to earn their place on the team but dont know how it will work in future as they are rejigging the tsp thing. other than that if you finish in the top 150 of each discipline in a month you are invited to a freeroll where 20 £110 roller seats are on offer. think that covers that Posted by TINTIN
Im reading about cash for points and league points again. It seems you have to opt in to cash for points. Why is this?, is there anything to be gained from not opting into this?. Seems like something that should be enabled for all players by default, unless Im missing something again.
Similarly with this poker league, is there any reason someone would want to opt out of it?
You get 1 Poker Point for every 10p spent in STT and MTT rake (cash is slightly different). You got 100 Poker Points because the rake for the Super Roller was £10. You will always get 100 Poker Points irrespective of your finishing position. Poker Points are the ones that count towards C4P at the end of the month.
League Points are the thing under "Poker League" when you look at the league table. When you load up the tournament lobby and look at the top prizes, it'll say "£100 + 20 League Points", for example. League Points go towards the Poker League table, and the top players in Cash, STT and MTT all go into the League Stars Freeroll at the end of the month.
League Points also decide who gets a chance to qualify for Team Sky Poker every 3 months, but I believe there isn't going to be a TSP qualifier in July.
You get 1 Poker Point for every 10p spent in STT and MTT rake (cash is slightly different). You got 100 Poker Points because the rake for the Super Roller was £10. You will always get 100 Poker Points irrespective of your finishing position. Poker Points are the ones that count towards C4P at the end of the month. League Points are the thing under "Poker League" when you look at the league table. When you load up the tournament lobby and look at the top prizes, it'll say "£100 + 20 League Points", for example. League Points go towards the Poker League table, and the top players in Cash, STT and MTT all go into the League Stars Freeroll at the end of the month. League Points also decide who gets a chance to qualify for Team Sky Poker every 3 months, but I believe there isn't going to be a TSP qualifier in July. Hope this helps. Posted by EvilPingu
Yep, I was getting confused because my poker points and league points are almost identical and I thought this was a breakdown of points.
One other quick question. Im reading about cash for points and league points again. It seems you have to opt in to cash for points. Why is this?, is there anything to be gained from not opting into this?. Seems like something that should be enabled for all players by default, unless Im missing something. Similarly with this poker league, is there any reason someone would want to opt out of it? Posted by Spad3s
If you earn 5,000 C4P in a month, 5,000 Poker Points will be deducted from your account and you'll be given £90. If you decided that you didn't want them 5,000 Poker Points to be deducted, and instead you wanted to use them on Freerolls, then you wouldn't opt in to C4P.
Given that you can't use Poker Points for much other than freerolls, and you'll likely get more from C4P than you would win in the freerolls, plus you wouldn't have to play 100 freerolls, it's a no-brainer to opt in.
With the Poker League, I can't see the point in opting out myself, it makes more sense to just de-register from the Team Sky Poker tournament if you aren't interested in that, but still get the Freeroll entry every month.
One other quick question. Im reading about cash for points and league points again. It seems you have to opt in to cash for points. Why is this?, is there anything to be gained from not opting into this?. Seems like something that should be enabled for all players by default, unless Im missing something. Similarly with this poker league, is there any reason someone would want to opt out of it? Posted by Spad3s
i agree it should be default entered for c4p promo, no idea why you have to opt in, when they first started the c4p promo you had to enter a code every month which thankfully you dont have to do now.
cant think of a legit reason why someone would opt out of the league but im sure there may be 1
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : i agree it should be default entered for c4p promo, no idea why you have to opt in, when they first started the c4p promo you had to enter a code every month which thankfully you dont have to do now. cant think of a legit reason why someone would opt out of the league but im sure there may be 1 Posted by TINTIN
Seems very odd not to give to all players by default. Some players, especially new players may be playing for months before they realize they are missing out.
I guess this is just another similarity to rakeback, the uninformed will be missing out.
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : Seems very odd not to give to all players by default. Some players, especially new players may be playing for months before they realize they are missing out. Posted by Spad3s
Thiscould be why, Sky specialises in attracting new players, who will usually have no idea about rakeback, so until they find out about C4P they get to pocket 100% of the rake. (although C4P is advertised loads on the site so people who don't opt in must be very unaware)
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : This is probably why, Sky specialises in attracting new players, who will usually have no idea about rakeback, so until they find out about C4P they get to pocket 100% of the rake. (although C4P is advertised loads on the site so people who don't opt in must be very unaware) Posted by Poker_Fail
But if this is the reason why, you would imagine Sky might be concerned it makes them look a bit sneaky. Ive never seen another poker site where a player had to opt into the sites reward scheme, are we sure there is not another reason not to opt in?.
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : But if this is the reason why, you would imagine Sky might be concerned it makes them look a bit sneaky. Ive never seen another poker site where a player had to opt into the sites reward scheme, are we sure there is not another reason not to opt in?. Posted by Spad3s
In Response to Re: Rake calculation : Seems very odd not to give to all players by default. Some players, especially new players may be playing for months before they realize they are missing out. I guess this is just another similarity to rakeback, the uninformed will be missing out. Posted by Spad3s
Trust us 100% we are not being sneaky.
Honestly, we promote it heavily and encourage people to opt in to in (it is a promotion).
It does baffle us a bit but some people dont want to be part of it but that's their choice.
So if it's just a promotion then it will be ending sometime soonish then?
Call me cynical but obviously it's opt in only so lots of players won't know about it and the ones that want an incentive to sta (because they know there's other deals out there) have searched the site properly/asked Cust serv.
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EDIT: Probably what Scotty said.
I exchanged around 10 emails with sky support(even sent screenshots) about this asking if my MTT points should be 0 or should have something for tourneys and they said I only get points for tourneys if I finish in top 20.
Maybe there is a communication breakdown. Sky system is confusing.
you will have received 100 poker points for playing in tourney which contribute towards your c4p. this total can be viewed on your homepage or account section, they have absolutley no bearing on league points which are awarded for finishing positions in sng n mtt n also points for winning a hand in cash
So what are these league points for?. Do I need to take a course on the sky poker promotions, rake, cash for points calcuation etc
Although in cash it will be variable, on average each month if you put in the same volume, you would get roughly the same % back in C4P as other months.
other than that if you finish in the top 150 of each discipline in a month you are invited to a freeroll where 20 £110 roller seats are on offer.
think that covers that
Im reading about cash for points and league points again.
It seems you have to opt in to cash for points. Why is this?, is there anything to be gained from not opting into this?. Seems like something that should be enabled for all players by default, unless Im missing something again.
Similarly with this poker league, is there any reason someone would want to opt out of it?
League Points are the thing under "Poker League" when you look at the league table. When you load up the tournament lobby and look at the top prizes, it'll say "£100 + 20 League Points", for example. League Points go towards the Poker League table, and the top players in Cash, STT and MTT all go into the League Stars Freeroll at the end of the month.
League Points also decide who gets a chance to qualify for Team Sky Poker every 3 months, but I believe there isn't going to be a TSP qualifier in July.
Hope this helps.
Yep, I was getting confused because my poker points and league points are almost identical and I thought this was a breakdown of points.
Given that you can't use Poker Points for much other than freerolls, and you'll likely get more from C4P than you would win in the freerolls, plus you wouldn't have to play 100 freerolls, it's a no-brainer to opt in.
With the Poker League, I can't see the point in opting out myself, it makes more sense to just de-register from the Team Sky Poker tournament if you aren't interested in that, but still get the Freeroll entry every month.
cant think of a legit reason why someone would opt out of the league but im sure there may be 1
Some players, especially new players may be playing for months before they realize they are missing out.
I guess this is just another similarity to rakeback, the uninformed will be missing out.
But if this is the reason why, you would imagine Sky might be concerned it makes them look a bit sneaky.
Ive never seen another poker site where a player had to opt into the sites reward scheme, are we sure there is not another reason not to opt in?.
Trust us 100% we are not being sneaky.
Honestly, we promote it heavily and encourage people to opt in to in (it is a promotion).
It does baffle us a bit but some people dont want to be part of it but that's their choice.