The reason why i dont like c/c is that i dont really think he bluffs me here that often or has a hand where he needs to bluff. Most of his FD's have pairs so he probably just checks it with them and weak aces. The only thing he bets is a K probably. I also dont like a shove. Seems like youre just wanting him to call with a lot of hands he probably doesnt have. Its also hard to stay balanced when you shove this board. Youre just setting yourself up to get valuetowned most of the time. Its probably wise not to shove randon FD's on this board so how can it be right to shove something like QT? Posted by offshoot
Intresting offshoot, but how would we play AK/KJ if you bet £80 with your whole range is that just somewhat better Is that what your saying ?
I think you have the best hand a bunch, his most likely hands are AQ, KQcc, KJcc and QT. Maybe some AsXs. idk, I dont think any worse hands call a shove. MAYBE KQcc. And I dont think any worse hands shove. Lol gross spot, I think I prefer betting 150. I think too often people get into the mentality of "well i've set up a shove so i have to shove now". I think you get looked up by everything thats worse than you if you bet 150.
Not a massive fan of per given we have little info of villains call 3b range, only that it is not super wide so we could have big rio.
V torn between bc and bf. I'd rather bf if we make it 120+ and bc if smaller tho I can't see what hands he will jam river with given he prob has little info on u, and most his hands have as value.
Checking is weird cos he will prob jam all kx hands and better, just gotta count combos and do pot odds maths to see if it's +ev
Thought about this hand a while, and honestly still haven't got a good answer for it. Its to sick of a spot and if I played it 4-5 times I may play it differently each time hoping I got some read off villian as to what he had. If i really had to place money on the hand he flips over that has us beat it will be KJ, but other than that I think its a gut feel, and a gut check time hand. Don't think any of the suggested plays are wrong or right. Only one I'd walk away feeling bad about would be C/F, and so anything else I can see as ok. Think my most likely to play would be failr thin bet and fold to a shove as i really can't see him bluffing to often on this board.
I can't see what you can be ahead of here apart from AQ OR AJ or maybe he isnt getting that far with KQ OR QJ. If you shove he is folding AJ but calling with AQ majority of the time so your losing value IMO by shoving. If you check he is shoving regardless majority of the time. And because of his stack size and tghe bet on the turn you cant really bet fold as your going to have to bet atleast £100 meaning if he comes over the top for his remaining £143 you have to call. I think it's a check fold
In Response to Re: 400nl HU: River decision in 3b pot : Why do you have to call? Posted by LadyFingrs
I think he means because any bet of £100 or so that gets reraised leaves a lot of money out there and fairly big pot odds that would mean vs the range of hands he may have over the long haul calling would likely be the right thing to do even if you lose in this one spot.
In Response to Re: 400nl HU: River decision in 3b pot : I think he means because any bet of £100 or so that gets reraised leaves a lot of money out there and fairly big pot odds that would mean vs the range of hands he may have over the long haul calling would likely be the right thing to do even if you lose in this one spot. Posted by KAM99
I understand this concept haha
What I mean is, if we think he's call everything worse with a bet of 150, but never shove worse and always shove better then why do we have to call.
I haven't done the maths but i guess our pot odds would be like 7:1. So we have to be good 12.5% of the time. If we're not then why do we have to call?
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Is that what your saying ?
Check/call - IDONKCALLU, BorinLoner, Wacko90
Shove - Rancid, Dudeskin8, DOHHHHHHH, Young_Gun, grantorino
Bet/call - Whoam196, sikas, LadyFingrs(?)
Bet/fold - LadyFingrs(?)
There you go offshoot. The consensus is that you should check/call, shove, bet/call or bet/fold... That's got to be helpful.
I can't see what you can be ahead of here apart from AQ OR AJ or maybe he isnt getting that far with KQ OR QJ. If you shove he is folding AJ but calling with AQ majority of the time so your losing value IMO by shoving. If you check he is shoving regardless majority of the time. And because of his stack size and tghe bet on the turn you cant really bet fold as your going to have to bet atleast £100 meaning if he comes over the top for his remaining £143 you have to call. I think it's a check fold
But that's prob why I'm awful at cash