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Going Pro In Aussi land!

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  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2012
    Yes Lambert i was an idiot earlier and ended up playing hu and hit and run!  I aggree rancid i am not yet at a level were i can beat cash over the long run.  So here is my plan for today playing £11 and £16.50 dyms if there are  enough games running at £16.50.  Will play on the live master cash tables tonight as long as its nothing over 50nl to get my hands analysed.  I will then be playing in the open with 3 dym tables running at the same time.
  • FlyingDaggFlyingDagg Member Posts: 4,146
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Going Pro [Bearlyther's Diary]:
    You made this hard for yourself by using the word pro in your thread title.  Before poker, what did you intend to do? What qualifications do you have? I hope you didn't turn down uni/college to do this. If it was 'go pro or apply to Mcdonalds' then you've picked the right option imo. If it was 'go pro or go to college and give yourself a chance of a proper career', then it's a huge mistake. Once you've got your qualifications/training/coaching badges, you've got a real freeroll with becoming a poker pro. Nobody can take those qualifications off you. You might miss out on a couple of years work experience, but at least you've got the certificates to fall back on. If you never planned on uni/college for whatever reason, well in 2 years Tesco will still be looking for shelf stackers, don't worry, might as well try poker.  The real crime would be if you've chosen poker over education. There would be no need to even make that decision as you have so much time to play anyway. Go get some Alevels, and you'll still be able to play 6 hours a day if you still want to. 
    Posted by DOHHHHHHH
    Great post Dohhhhhhh totally spot on.
  • AMYBRAMYBR Member Posts: 3,432
    edited May 2012
    yeah I was also kind of surprised at how good this advice was :P
  • Poker_FailPoker_Fail Member Posts: 1,755
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Going Pro [Bearlyther's Diary]:
    Ok so today did not go quite according to plan.  Started off well by being about 60 up in dyms in the afternoon.  I then decided to try some 50 nl cash to see how it went only finding myself 250 down.  I then lost the satelite for the £33 bounty hunter but entered the tournament anyway didnt get any real hands and went out quite early.  I then won the satelite into the £110 bounty hunter and doubled up to 8000 chips in the 4th hand with a set over set on the flop.  I then lost a couple of big pots and i suppose i went on tilt and really dissapointed with myself thinking about it.  I accidently registered to a £55 dym instead of an £11 which i lost.  I then went and played some 50 nl and ended up on 1 table of 100 nl for a bit.  I will not be playing cash in future as i reliase there are many more regs on the cash tables who will have an edge over me although in saying that i managed to win back my losses from earlier on in the day.   I will call it an experiment were i have learned to stick to dyms.  Have a few things to do in the afternoon so probly wont get playing again until tomorrow evening. Profit today: £6.55 Bankroll: £2710.28 C4P: 2520 (£30.24)
    Posted by bearlyther

    Ermmmm, where exactly did you get £6 profit from then???
  • WilhelmWilhelm Member Posts: 1,730
    edited May 2012
    Thought I might throw my hat into the ring.  As it sounds like you're young enough to win £3000 at least once more in your lifetime, I don't see losing the roll as much of an issue.  I think if you intend to become a pro you probably need to go broke at least once to know how it feels and know that you never want to do it again.  I've gone broke once and that turned me into a bankroll nit. 

    If however the £3000 would make a big difference to your current living circumstances (I've worded this quite badly), then I would bank it and try spinning up another £50.  You have the confidence to do that having done it before and I believe confidence gives you a a bit of an edge in this game. 

    Whatever you decide, gl with it.

    Will
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Going Pro [Bearlyther's Diary]:
    Thought I might throw my hat into the ring.  As it sounds like you're young enough to win £3000 at least once more in your lifetime, I don't see losing the roll as much of an issue.  I think if you intend to become a pro you probably need to go broke at least once to know how it feels and know that you never want to do it again.  I've gone broke once and that turned me into a bankroll nit.  If however the £3000 would make a big difference to your current living circumstances (I've worded this quite badly), then I would bank it and try spinning up another £50.  You have the confidence to do that having done it before and I believe confidence gives you a a bit of an edge in this game.  Whatever you decide, gl with it. Will
    Posted by Wilhelm
    I certainly know what it feels like to go broke mate happened me twice on ongame won a big tournament for like 1800 then started playing stupid games.  Then i grinded a 40 dollar bankroll into like 2 k on double or nothings same idea as double your money then i started playing 108 don and went broke.  So i know what it feels like to go broke and im determined to succeed this time.

  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited May 2012
    Not being funny, but I thought you decided not to play cash and yet you're gonna be playing MasterCash tonight?

    Make your profits first, then you can start experimenting/learning new facets of the game.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2012
    Did you just hit n run again? Or was that a genuine disconnection the hand after winning a big pot early on in the match? 


  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2012
    Yea it was a hit and run there mate!
  • liamboi11liamboi11 Member Posts: 2,141
    edited May 2012
    have you thought of playing cash at lower levels like 20nl,30nl if you want 2 get your cash fix rather than playin the big boys at 50nl plus.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2012

    Very interesting thread, with good advice, if you stay honest and open this could be one of the best learning curves you achieve in poker.

    Your cash strategy is surprising me, (I'm not suggesting it is wrong), I just caught a glimpse of you on a cash table and noted that you again applied the hit and run strategy.

    Do you think playing single tables of cash and following a hit and run tactic is sustainable for a pro in the long run?

    Is it a pre-determined tactic, or is it more of a case of lack of confidence, where you get ahead and then fear you will lose at cash if you stick around for long?

    Good Luck at the tables, except when I'm there!

  • Spad3sSpad3s Member Posts: 269
    edited May 2012
    I predict Bearlyther in for a rough ride and some wake up calls.

    To play for a living these days I think you need to be playing at least 8 tables, especially if you are only playing small stakes like nl50.

    But good luck.
  • TheDartTheDart Member Posts: 1,581
    edited May 2012
    Here's another question for you.

    You say that playing the main events are a central part of your plan.
     
    With the main and min jackpot now at £6,500, what's the thinking behind swerving the mini events?

    Surely as part of your multi table grind, you could find room and justification to have a crack at the jackpot?
  • bearlytherbearlyther Member Posts: 1,757
    edited May 2012
    Yea mate the reason why i dont play the mini is because the chances of winning both are very slim indeed and its hard to get motivated for me to play in the mini
  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,627
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Going Pro [Bearlyther's Diary]:
    Yea mate the reason why i dont play the mini is because the chances of winning both are very slim indeed and its hard to get motivated for me to play in the mini
    Posted by bearlyther

    The kids got confidence! ;-(
  • DazlerDazler Member Posts: 3,970
    edited May 2012

    Yea mate the reason why i dont play the mini is because the chances of winning both are very slim indeed and its hard to get motivated for me to play in the mini


    the chances of winning 1 is slim but at least you have 2 chances if you play the mini and the main. And its cheap plenty to get motivated for with that. £3 to win £300 i like that roi better than dym's
  • SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,737
    edited May 2012
    Hand History #516408513 (21:22 07/05/2012)PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalancemastaheadSmall blind 15.0015.003650.00bearlytherBig blind 30.0045.004195.00 Your hole cards109   Poker_FailFold    mcfesta26Call 30.0075.003590.00SoLackRaise 90.00165.006210.00mastaheadFold    bearlytherRaise 240.00405.003955.00mcfesta26Fold    SoLackCall 180.00585.006030.00Flop  986   bearlytherCheck    SoLackCheck    Turn  7   bearlytherBet 400.00985.003555.00SoLackCall 400.001385.005630.00River  K   bearlytherAll-in 3555.004940.000.00SoLackCall 3555.008495.002075.00bearlytherShowK3   SoLackShow109   SoLackWinStraight to the 108495.00 10570.00PrevClose windowNext
  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,627
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Going Pro [Bearlyther's Diary]:
        SoLack Win Straight to the 10 8495.00   10570.00 Prev Close window Next
    Posted by SoLack
    And your point is?
  • SoLackSoLack Member Posts: 2,737
    edited May 2012
    In Response to Re: Going Pro [Bearlyther's Diary]:
    So i played in the £110 bounty hunter tonight after qualifiing through the satelite.  Didnt go well lost 800 chips in the second hand when i had ak and got reraised on the river and decided to fold.  Then was playing against someone who played every hand with any 2 cards and i payed him off with top pair probly a bad call but was hard to fold as he was playing every hand.  Decided to play a bit of cash from 11-12 with the happy hour running just for a change of scenery from the dyms.  Back on the grind on the dyms tomorrow. Profit today: £112.92 Bankroll: 2703.73 C4P: 1799 (£17.99)
    Posted by bearlyther
    Said hand posted above - your play is full of bluster - a bit like your posts imo.  I checked HH and I played 5 of last 20 hands not counting 2 hands which were folded to my bb. The five hands included AA and AK and although 5/20 may be slightly above average it is hardly "... played every hand with any 2..."
    Your diary is similar to Adrian Mole's - fiction.
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited May 2012
    Optimistic Isildur-esq range-merge value shove attempt w/tp nk?

    Or bluff?
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