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Whats my move on the turn?

mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
edited June 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Opponent is reg capable of moves, open limps a bit pre, but when raiser plays aggressive.
phenom222 Small blind   £0.05 £0.05 £8.57
mattless Big blind   £0.10 £0.15 £14.69
  Your hole cards
  • K
  • K
     
TWRAMYEP Raise   £0.40 £0.55 £11.14
POCKETS831 Fold        
didalo Fold        
phenom222 Call   £0.35 £0.90 £8.22
mattless Raise   £1.50 £2.40 £13.19
TWRAMYEP Call   £1.20 £3.60 £9.94
phenom222 Call   £1.20 £4.80 £7.02
Flop
   
  • J
  • 2
  • 6
     
phenom222 Check        
mattless Bet   £2.50 £7.30 £10.69
TWRAMYEP Call   £2.50 £9.80 £7.44
phenom222 Fold        
Turn
   
  • Q
     
mattless ?
       
TWRAMYEP          
           
           
           

           
           
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Comments

  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2012
    I probz just bet about 5, but I don't think it matters too much whether you choose to bet that amount or shove
  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited June 2012
    £2.35 :D
  • EvilPinguEvilPingu Member Posts: 3,462
    edited June 2012
    Jam
  • mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
    edited June 2012
    his range to call me on flop is jx, set or possibly 77 88 99 1010. Should I not slow down?
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2012
    Check
  • mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
    edited June 2012
    wow 4 different answers so far
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2012
    Can't see much reason to bet, you can still jam river if he checks back and you are wa/wb
  • percival09percival09 Member Posts: 3,804
    edited June 2012
    it depends on your image
    I know with my image I'm double barreling because I'm bluffing here sometimes. It depends how often you 3b, how often you cbet in 3b potsetc...
    Checking is fine if you're disciplined enough to lay it down to a bet? Or are you planning to c/r? Realistically, unless villain is bluffing, he's never betting the turn once checked to him with less than KK so I guess that's fine. 
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Whats my move on the turn?:
    it depends on your image I know with my image I'm double barreling because I'm bluffing here sometimes. It depends how often you 3b, how often you cbet in 3b potsetc... Checking is fine if you're disciplined enough to lay it down to a bet? Or are you planning to c/r? Realistically, unless villain is bluffing, he's never betting the turn once checked to him with less than KK so I guess that's fine. 
    Posted by percival09
     Yeah depends on image a bit,  but it allows him bluff some weak hands or floats, and we often get paid lighter on river when we check than we do on turn

    Yeah he shouldn't be bluffing turn often, prob can c/f v some villains with good reads, but I don't fold readless
  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited June 2012
    Mattless table image is pretty solid.

    He looks intrested in the hand on the flop i think your right to say he has jx or set on such a dry flop can't see him having need to raise a set espcially with position. That said i think i bet about £4 and shove the river and hope its the aj
  • patwalshhpatwalshh Member Posts: 772
    edited June 2012
    Wrong sizing pre imo. Should be something like <1.35. Probably just shove turn 
  • mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Whats my move on the turn?:
    Mattless table image is pretty solid. He looks intrested in the hand on the flop i think your right to say he has jx or set on such a dry flop can't see him having need to raise a set espcially with position. That said i think i bet about £4 and shove the river and hope its the aj
    Posted by jams88
     
    Thank you I think!? re: my image. Think it is probably a bit laggier than that. Having trouble working out when to slow down. Bet bet bet is my default position
  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,945
    edited June 2012
    whatever u do don't fold

    shove turn
  • simonnatursimonnatur Member Posts: 330
    edited June 2012
    don't understand majority of responses at all, with these stack to pot ratios on turn, money has to go in all day every day - surely???  or am i missing something.  Pls tell me we're not ever folding whatever he does?
  • KAM99KAM99 Member Posts: 773
    edited June 2012
    Yeah not sure you can like the call on the flop with dry board, but short of C/F I can't see you getting away from this. YOu could bet small I guess but even if he shoves over it you won't be far off 2:1 odds to call unless you bet insanely small. And as its more likely to be a Jx than a set in most cases I'm not sure I'd love checking as he will see that as a give up and bet any Jx hand quite often and it would suck to fold if that was the case. Think most cases I'd end up getting stacked if he has a set.
  • THENUTS480THENUTS480 Member Posts: 6
    edited June 2012
    Difficult spot i guess in these stakes it helps a lot if you have reads on the villan in question how light hes calling you down and if you feel your hand is strong enough to stack off.but i feel the best cause off action here is maybe just bet the turrn and jam the river or just jam the turn but if we do that maybe he calls us wen were beat and a smaller bet  on the turn will pot comit him to call with hands were beating atm then hes pot commited  for a river shove.Either way the pots bloated with two people calling are 3 bet and i feel yes were beat here sum off the time but were still beating quite a bit off his range i must admit the turn card is a bit sucky and also the flop been such a dry board.But in these lower stakes i feel players call down with a lot less and we are making mistake by checking as i think are cowboys a lot off the times in these lower stakes they is still value to be had here!
  • grantorinograntorino Member Posts: 4,710
    edited June 2012
    If you check turn it doesnt mean you don't think there is value to be had, you may think there is more value to be had this way

    When Percival mentioned c/f I would imagine it was because most good regs have a hand with showdown value on turn which they should usually check back. I wouldn't c/f without very good reads though
  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited June 2012
    check-call is best against me
  • mattlessmattless Member Posts: 194
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Whats my move on the turn?:
    check-call is best against me
    Posted by TWRAMYEP
    lol nh
  • TWRAMYEPTWRAMYEP Member Posts: 351
    edited June 2012
    In Response to Re: Whats my move on the turn?:
    In Response to Re: Whats my move on the turn? : lol nh
    Posted by mattless

    ty, either way you had to go broke, was a cooler, oh and everything grantorino said

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