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Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!

frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
edited July 2012 in Poker Chat

Hello all

May I start by saying a big well done to the guys at sky poker for a great site. I’ve been playing on sky poker for about 8 months now and it really has been great. I’ve played on a lot of poker site’s in my time and this has been by far the best I think and like I’ve said I’ve played on a lot so I don’t make that statement lightly.

There’s some great tourney’s on here and I loved the bounty hunters whoever thought of the idea of putting half the buy in in the prize pool and half on your head (which go’s up the more you win) need’s a raise it adds a whole new element to the game that topped with the good clean graphics and the great player community as well as the very helpful service support It really is one of the top poker sites out there!!

However despite the massive amounts of praise of have for the site, and the community and all at the team I have to leave because I use a dongle. Since sky poker’s last update to the program every time I try to play a MTT or a STT all my hands keep getting timed out and it keeps telling me I’ve been disconnected. I’ve used a Dongle for the whole time I’ve been on sky poker and it’s never been a problem before. It really has become pointless playing I might as well be flushing money down the toilet!!!

At first I thought this problem might be down to my connection so I opened a game on another poker site and had no problems at all So then maybe it was the program so I uninstalled sky poker and then reinstalled it only to find out it made no difference so then I came on here to find out all dongle users were having this problem since sky’s pokers last update and one had been in contact with sky a number of times only to be told in the end “We at sky don’t support using a dongle to play poker with” Eeerrr O.k not the response I would have expected being as for the past 8 months I’ve been playing on here you have supported it and been more the happy to take your rake for each game I’ve played not that I’ve minded paying it like I’ve said you’ve offered a great service for the money. But I guess the average rake you get from a dongle player is not going to put your kids though collage. It does make me wonder if the bug had of affected the high rollers table’s maybe sky poker would have been a little more prompt to do something about it

What saddens me is your approach to the average joe I work hard but don’t earn a great wage hence why I have to use a dongle But I like to relax in the evening and play some poker on your site as I’m sure many of the other dongle users do But I, like them am now having to cash out my account and find other poker site’s to go and spend my money on  because It has become apparent that the little man doesn’t  mean anything to sky poker anymore as you feel you are too big to be bothered about our money as the cost of fixing the problem will exceed the loss of business by dongle users leaving the site which there already doing by the post’s on here

I don’t blame the team at sky poker at all Like I’ve said everything on here has been fantastic and I really don’t think I could pick a fault even if I sat there and thought about it but I do blame the person who thinks “We at sky don’t support using a dongle to play poker with” is an O.k answer to give. It’s people who give rash response’s like this that are normally being carried in their careers by everyone around them. Is this really the answer to loyal customers after the money we have paid in? I’m under no illusion  that this is the work of one person but sadly they have let the whole team down at sky poker on what would otherwise be a 100% perfect service. Poor customer service like that reflects the team and sky as a brand and It’s a shame to let one bad apple ruin the bunch but then maybe if there enough of a dip in this quarters numbers because one person is big enough to turn away business towards other poker sites then maybe someone might make the connection and finally fire this public school person and sky can get back on track with being the great poker site it is.

Peace and love

Frank260

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  • davetreedavetree Member Posts: 104
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    Hello all May I start by saying a big well done to the guys at sky poker for a great site. I’ve been playing on sky poker for about 8 months now and it really has been great. I’ve played on a lot of poker site’s in my time and this has been by far the best I think and like I’ve said I’ve played on a lot so I don’t make that statement lightly. There’s some great tourney’s on here and I loved the bounty hunters whoever thought of the idea of putting half the buy in in the prize pool and half on your head (which go’s up the more you win) need’s a raise it adds a whole new element to the game that topped with the good clean graphics and the great player community as well as the very helpful service support It really is one of the top poker sites out there!! However despite the massive amounts of praise of have for the site, and the community and all at the team I have to leave because I use a dongle. Since sky poker’s last update to the program every time I try to play a MTT or a STT all my hands keep getting timed out and it keeps telling me I’ve been disconnected. I’ve used a Dongle for the whole time I’ve been on sky poker and it’s never been a problem before. It really has become pointless playing I might as well be flushing money down the toilet!!! At first I thought this problem might be down to my connection so I opened a game on another poker site and had no problems at all So then maybe it was the program so I uninstalled sky poker and then reinstalled it only to find out it made no difference so then I came on here to find out all dongle users were having this problem since sky’s pokers last update and one had been in contact with sky a number of times only to be told in the end “We at sky don’t support using a dongle to play poker with” Eeerrr O.k not the response I would have expected being as for the past 8 months I’ve been playing on here you have supported it and been more the happy to take your rake for each game I’ve played not that I’ve minded paying it like I’ve said you’ve offered a great service for the money. But I guess the average rake you get from a dongle player is not going to put your kids though collage. It does make me wonder if the bug had of affected the high rollers table’s maybe sky poker would have been a little more prompt to do something about it What saddens me is your approach to the average joe I work hard but don’t earn a great wage hence why I have to use a dongle But I like to relax in the evening and play some poker on your site as I’m sure many of the other dongle users do But I, like them am now having to cash out my account and find other poker site’s to go and spend my money on  because It has become apparent that the little man doesn’t  mean anything to sky poker anymore as you feel you are too big to be bothered about our money as the cost of fixing the problem will exceed the loss of business by dongle users leaving the site which there already doing by the post’s on here I don’t blame the team at sky poker at all Like I’ve said everything on here has been fantastic and I really don’t think I could pick a fault even if I sat there and thought about it but I do blame the person who thinks “We at sky don’t support using a dongle to play poker with” is an O.k answer to give. It’s people who give rash response’s like this that are normally being carried in their careers by everyone around them. Is this really the answer to loyal customers after the money we have paid in? I’m under no illusion  that this is the work of one person but sadly they have let the whole team down at sky poker on what would otherwise be a 100% perfect service. Poor customer service like that reflects the team and sky as a brand and It’s a shame to let one bad apple ruin the bunch but then maybe if there enough of a dip in this quarters numbers because one person is big enough to turn away business towards other poker sites then maybe someone might make the connection and finally fire this public school person and sky can get back on track with being the great poker site it is. Peace and love Frank260
    Posted by frank260
    WHAT THE CHUFFIN **** IS A DONGLE!
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2012
    It's where you don't have built in wireless on your laptop or PC so you have like a USB dongle to be able to connect wirelessly.
  • edited July 2012
    While I don't want to disregard all the time and effort you have put into your post, your issues are not due to your dongle use. Many people (including myself) are suffering regular disconnections, and I'm using a hardwired internet connection, not even wireless. 


  • frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    In Response to Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!! : WHAT THE CHUFFIN **** IS A DONGLE!
    Posted by davetree
    A Dongle is a device that's plugged into your USB so you can access the internet without having to have a phone line installed you still pay a subscription charge but it can be paid monthly it's pay as you go internet basically you pay for it when you want it and no bills :)
  • cleansweepcleansweep Member Posts: 598
    edited July 2012
    I agee with everything you say.
    I've had major problems with disconnections recently.
    The site is great the shows are fantastic and the regulars are diamonds!
    however customer services do not appreciate that losing tariffs in some 20 or so tournaments is frustrating.
    being told there are no problems on the site then seeing several tournaments cancelled due to technical reasons is perplexing.
    I have never cheated,abused or taken advantage while using the site but when I honestly experienced problems last week and informed CS while still well stacked in the primo I felt that I was treated like a piece of dirt.
    totally in contrast to my experiences on the forum and when taking part in the shows.
    If you feel strongly about your experiences go to the gambling commisssion web site contact us section and they will put you in contact with the relevant authority to investigate your grievance.
    I found them very helpful.
    This is such a great site and i'm sure the glitches will eventually be ironed out but until they are the recreational players are at a disadvantage and treated with contempt.
    As this is probably my last post before I receive a forum ban for telling the truth.
    I hope all the Guys out in Vegas perform over and above expected and bring back cherished memories along with big cashes!
    Having followed Ryan last year I hope he makes the final table this year!
  • frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    While I don't want to disregard all the time and effort you have put into your post, your issues are not due to your dongle use. Many people (including myself) are suffering regular disconnections, and I'm using a hardwired internet connection, not even wireless. 
    Posted by CoxyLboro
    Well I find It sad that you and others on a normal internet connection are having problems also can you tell me is this since the last update or have you always had problems with your connection on here??? 
    My point was when I looked for a reason there was a lot on dongle users complaining of the same issue ever since the last update and were fobbed off with a very substandard answer. 
    So my gripe was at whoever is writing these programs as they seem to have cost the company money and the person who thinks its ok to tell people on behalf of the the company they work for "It's ok dongle users we don't want your money" ok that might not have been the exact words they used but that's how it felt being told that by a company that a lot of loyal users had a lot of affection for.
  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited July 2012
    Hi Frank
    I'm not quite certain of the ins and outs but do you have Sky tv? I had this when i saw programmes and decided that i wanted to play. I researched the internet rates and saw that if i transferred to sky talk then i got a very reasonable rate or it may even have been free to play the poker on the tv using the clicker. If you have Sky then it may be worth looking into this as you seem to enjoy the site etc. Sorry i can't be more detailed but its over a year ago now. Maybe someone reading this on the forum or at sky can give you a better explanation. All the best...
  • frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    I agee with everything you say. I've had major problems with disconnections recently. The site is great the shows are fantastic and the regulars are diamonds! however customer services do not appreciate that losing tariffs in some 20 or so tournaments is frustrating. being told there are no problems on the site then seeing several tournaments cancelled due to technical reasons is perplexing. I have never cheated,abused or taken advantage while using the site but when I honestly experienced problems last week and informed CS while still well stacked in the primo I felt that I was treated like a piece of dirt. totally in contrast to my experiences on the forum and when taking part in the shows. If you feel strongly about your experiences go to the gambling commisssion web site contact us section and they will put you in contact with the relevant authority to investigate your grievance. I found them very helpful. This is such a great site and i'm sure the glitches will eventually be ironed out but until they are the recreational players are at a disadvantage and treated with contempt. As this is probably my last post before I receive a forum ban for telling the truth. I hope all the Guys out in Vegas perform over and above expected and bring back cherished memories along with big cashes! Having followed Ryan last year I hope he makes the final table this year!
    Posted by cleansweep
    Thanks for your post I enjoyed reading what you had to say and thanks for your advice about the gambling commission I hadn't thought about them and even tho I have lost money because of connection problems I don't think I will be taking it up with them 1: Because I like sky poker and I think it will reflect badly on them if a lot of people complain just due to a technical fault and 2:like you said Im sure it will be ironed out quick enough so what's the point??
    However the point that you brought up about the customer services worries me is this the way that sky now treats there customers??? there has been a massive shift in the support that people are getting nowadays I have always found them to be very helpful in the past but the feedback from the players recently has been very negative and I think sky need to address this issue very quick if there's a problem with the updates tell us there's a problem with the updates none of us on here are stupid so stop treating us as if we are and fobbing us off with substandard answers.
    Were people sky not just numbers if it wasn't for us you wouldn't have a poker site please listen to us for when its all gone your give anything to have this moment again
  • frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    Hi Frank I'm not quite certain of the ins and outs but do you have Sky tv? I had this when i saw programmes and decided that i wanted to play. I researched the internet rates and saw that if i transferred to sky talk then i got a very reasonable rate or it may even have been free to play the poker on the tv using the clicker. If you have Sky then it may be worth looking into this as you seem to enjoy the site etc. Sorry i can't be more detailed but its over a year ago now. Maybe someone reading this on the forum or at sky can give you a better explanation. All the best...
    Posted by profman15
    Hay profman thanks for your post no I don't have sky T.V and even tho I think I have been on a couple of shows I've never been able to see it. I have looked into all sorts of internet before but being as I move around a bit and landlords are not always happy about you installing internet in a shared house this has never been an option which is why a Dongle works for me. 
    Thanks for your advice anyway 
    Peace and love brother 
  • wayne1958wayne1958 Member Posts: 263
    edited July 2012
    While I don't want to disregard all the time and effort you have put into your post, your issues are not due to your dongle use. Many people (including myself) are suffering regular disconnections, and I'm using a hardwired internet connection, not even wireless.

    +1, and still are.obs new updates not working..+ sent mail to sky on 27 june still waiting for a reply. ... 
  • frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    While I don't want to disregard all the time and effort you have put into your post, your issues are not due to your dongle use. Many people (including myself) are suffering regular disconnections, and I'm using a hardwired internet connection, not even wireless. +1, and still are.obs new updates not working..+ sent mail to sky on 27 june still waiting for a reply. ... 
    Posted by wayne1958
    Well it seems like more then just dongle users are experiencing problems with the updates and you emailed them on the 27th and 9 days later you still have no reply that really is poor sky!! See sky seem to be taking the approach that Microsoft did at the start with the xbox360 that there is no problem and I love my xbox to bits through all the faults the amount of times I've had to send it back to get it back and its still not fixed but hay I've stuck by them and I've kinda come a custom to it now. However come the next generation of gaming I wont be going with Microsoft again its a playstation for me all the way. Maybe the people at sky could read someting into that :)
    I think sky has some serious sucking up to do to its customers they cant treat people like this there are other sites out there. 
    They do a very good job but in today's capitalist society someone out there is always willing to do it better please don't make the mistake by thinking your customer's wont go looking!!
  • FCHDFCHD Member Posts: 3,178
    edited July 2012
    I am also a part-time dongle user and have to say that the situation is getting worse. Disconnects from within the Sky download client are getting more frequent, while I almost never have the problem with other poker sites or other internet use.
  • POKERTREVPOKERTREV Member Posts: 9,607
    edited July 2012
    Hi Frank.
    Sorry to hear you are having problems and I hope you don't mind me giving you my honest opinion.........

    Gaming online whilst using a Dongle for internet connection can be very hit and miss. Its ok for use if you want internet on the go, whilst on the train, bus, travelling etc. 

    As a gaming platform it is always going to be a bit cumbersome and whilst I appreciate that in the past you may well have been able to play using the dongle (probably not as fast as most on ADSL) I can only imagine that the more updates there are the slower it will get.

    Much like in the past, as gaming technology moves on we also need better equipment and faster download speed to keep up with it. I remember the days of dial up connection and windows 4.1 lol.

    As far as Sky Poker Customer Care is concerned this is my take on it....................
    They have a list of common faults and resolutions based on what type of platform you are using ADSL, Internet explorer, Google Chrome, Firefox etc as these are the most commonly used.

    When they say "Sky Poker Does Not Support The Dongle" they are NOT saying "we don't want your money" they are saying we do not recommend a dongle as a platform for playing Sky Poker and therefore, for this reason they are unable to help you resolve your problem. This is quite understandable in my opinion.

    There are ways you may be able to improve your experience using the Dongle, such as turning off the "Icons" and "Card Animations" etc in the "Table Options".

    There is something called "Ping Rates" this is the length of time it takes to send and receive data from one device to another. Ping Rates have always been a problem using the dongle method to connect to the internet and until the telecommunications companies improve on this, its probably a bit unfair to blame Sky Poker or its Customer Services for something they have NO control over.

    Personally I would recommend using a faster broadband speed, however in the meantime, try changing a few things in your settings or even try the browser version instead of the download version to see if this helps.

    Regards
    Pokertrev 
  • MyZoMyZo Member Posts: 332
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    I am also a part-time dongle user and have to say that the situation is getting worse. Disconnects from within the Sky download client are getting more frequent, while I almost never have the problem with other poker sites or other internet use.
    Posted by FCHD[/QUOTE


    There are support groups and counsellors that can help you with that.......
  • SUPERSNEDDSUPERSNEDD Member Posts: 910
    edited July 2012

    Be careful you don't overplay with your dongle, you may go blind :-)
  • MyZoMyZo Member Posts: 332
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    Be careful you don't overplay with your dongle, you may go blind :-)
    Posted by SUPERSNEDD
    That's a MYTH..... An Old Wives Tale..... An Urban Legend......

    Nobody really still uses a Dongle.....



  • jugglegeekjugglegeek Member Posts: 623
    edited July 2012
    I would like to point out for ballance that I have had no connection problems with Sky Poker in the last 12 months. I use a desktop PC 2GB RAM, ADM Athlon II X2 220 processor and a hardline wire connection to Virgin internet and Sky Poker works perfectly. Even done some 12 tableling in the past with no lag
  • bolly580bolly580 Member Posts: 603
    edited July 2012
    "if this affected the high roller tables sky would have been more prompt"

    well ya dont say, if some people are giving you 100's of thousands a year, and others are giving your just a few thousands a year who you think there guna look after? 
  • MyZoMyZo Member Posts: 332
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    "if this affected the high roller tables sky would have been more prompt" well ya dont say, if some people are giving you 100's of thousands a year, and others are giving your just a few thousands a year who you think there guna look after? 
    Posted by bolly580
    Hopefully their parents in their old age because its the least we can do for the people who bought us into this world and dedicated their lives to giving us the best chance possible.

    There really is too much neglect and ignorance when it comes to the "Older generation" and I think your point highlights the fact that it should be the duty of the children to protect and support their parents as they become less able.

    I am glad that serious topics like this can be discussed and thank you for bringing it up.

  • frank260frank260 Member Posts: 7
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Goodbye sky poker from a dongle user it's really been a blast!!:
    Hi Frank. Sorry to hear you are having problems and I hope you don't mind me giving you my honest opinion......... Gaming online whilst using a Dongle for internet connection can be very hit and miss. Its ok for use if you want internet on the go, whilst on the train, bus, travelling etc.  As a gaming platform it is always going to be a bit cumbersome and whilst I appreciate that in the past you may well have been able to play using the dongle (probably not as fast as most on ADSL) I can only imagine that the more updates there are the slower it will get. Much like in the past, as gaming technology moves on we also need better equipment and faster download speed to keep up with it. I remember the days of dial up connection and windows 4.1 lol. As far as Sky Poker Customer Care is concerned this is my take on it.................... They have a list of common faults and resolutions based on what type of platform you are using ADSL, Internet explorer, Google Chrome, Firefox etc as these are the most commonly used. When they say "Sky Poker Does Not Support The Dongle" they are NOT saying "we don't want your money" they are saying we do not recommend a dongle as a platform for playing Sky Poker and therefore, for this reason they are unable to help you resolve your problem. This is quite understandable in my opinion. There are ways you may be able to improve your experience using the Dongle, such as turning off the "Icons" and "Card Animations" etc in the "Table Options". There is something called "Ping Rates" this is the length of time it takes to send and receive data from one device to another. Ping Rates have always been a problem using the dongle method to connect to the internet and until the telecommunications companies improve on this, its probably a bit unfair to blame Sky Poker or its Customer Services for something they have NO control over. Personally I would recommend using a faster broadband speed, however in the meantime, try changing a few things in your settings or even try the browser version instead of the download version to see if this helps. Regards Pokertrev 
    Posted by POKERTREV
    Hi trev
    Thanks for you take on the subject and I do appreciate you giving me your opinion but I don't think it has as much to do with the dongle itself as you seem to believe see in the past I've never had lagging problems I get a good signal where I am and have played poker on here to the same speed as everyone else I've had 3 or 4 tables open in the past with no problems with lagging what so ever and like I pointed out in my original post it doesn't happen on other poker sites that I'm now having to use
    The updates arnt a problem themselves they download quick enough and I have never noticed a slowing of my connection for any other of the updates that sky has brought out in the past 
    There is a program on my dongle that shows me what data I've downloaded or uploaded its very handy for keeping an eye on your data allowance and what go's out for sky poker for a whole evening of poker is less then downloading a short clip on youtube or song so I know its not having to buzz massive amounts of data about
    If it was just me I think I might think you have a point but go over to the community help & advice forum there are a number of dongle players all having the same problem since the last update

    I haden't thought about turning off the card animations and the icons to see if it would speed it up but I really don't think that would improve my experience here at all it would in fact make it somewhat dull see I like all the glitz and the shiny things and flashing lights its the reason the fruit machine always gets my change on the way back from the bar and why I have turned away from other poker sites as there animations look cheap and naff I know not everyone bothered but that's just me :) 


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