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Guess the hand?

profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
edited July 2012 in The Poker Clinic
Hi folks,
Playing in bh....see if you can guess the hand i faced or guess the range of hands i should have faced? It'll be fun seeing if there's a concensus. I'll put the hd up tomorrow night. No reads but table have had a lot of limpers.
If you think i've played it poorly please say how i should have approached it too.

PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalanceshaggy68Small blind 40.0040.003020.00profman15Big blind 80.00120.004100.00 Your hole cardsKA
Call 80.00280.002940.00salz7312Fold    5558
@ 688
Bet 480.001600.002060.00profman15Call 480.002080.003220.00Turn  A

All-in 1020.007360.000.00profman15Unmatched bet 1160.006200.001160.00profman15ShowKA
Show8Q   River  6    Win 6200.00  
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited July 2012
    i guess q8 of spades
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    i guess q8 of spades
    Posted by jams88
    Oh ****!... I was going to guess that.

    Alright. I'll take 5c7s... What do I get if I win?
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  • clubhammerclubhammer Member Posts: 109
    edited July 2012
    I agree with jams - he seems quite intuitive
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  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited July 2012
    ermmm why arnt you c-betting the flop ?

    When you shove the turn what do you think he has   :S
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  • splashiessplashies Member Posts: 3,680
    edited July 2012
    Q♠8♠ everyday of the week :)
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited July 2012
    6 2 o/s
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  • UareLIMPERUareLIMPER Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2012
    HAHAHAHA boo hoo hoo telll me another bad beat story please, why do you call on the flop?


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  • UareLIMPERUareLIMPER Member Posts: 113
    edited July 2012
    HAHAHAHA boo hoo hoo telll me another bad beat story please, why do you call on the flop?

    As for how it could be play i might just shove pre as AK is pretty bad on the flop
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  • GlenelgGlenelg Member Posts: 6,600
    edited July 2012
    He’s put 20% of his stack in on the flop.  I think you have to ask yourself  “is this weak or strong?”  The only way to find out is to put him to the test ?   Personally,  I’d put another  880/960 in and see what happens.   If he folds good, if, as you say he’s been limping, he shoves, you know your answer.   At this level it’s never a shove pre,  IMO?
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited July 2012
    i like your line pre, im cbetting the the flop though and folding to a riase if he flats its probably going in on the turn and we lose anyway so unlucky.
    As played i think you have to fold to his bet on the flop when you check call for turn and then its just getting it in and losing to a guy who called with q8 for who knows what reason ul
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    ermmm why arnt you c-betting the flop ? When you shove the turn what do you think he has   :S
    Posted by 1267
    As he called my initial raise, i was sure as i could be that he had a pocket pair but not AA or KK. Maybe AJ, AT. Once the Ace hits, i put myself ahead because of the top kicker. I didn't bet the flop as this chap had been been betting quite a bit for other people so lef it for him to do as didn't fancy the ai check raise at that stage.
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited July 2012
    Well how good was that guys....you're just too good. I've SUCH a lot to learn!!!!!!!!
    Are you all related to Daniel Negreanau?
    Sorry for wasting your time but at least it gave you a chuckle, eh?
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    HAHAHAHA boo hoo hoo telll me another bad beat story please, why do you call on the flop?
    Posted by UareLIMPER
    Hi fella

    Its not a bad beat story and i'm not sobbing. I was having a bit of a laugh (which i messed up!)asking the forum to guess the hand but was asking the forum what i should have expected when i got the call after raising all the limps. I expected a pocket pair but not AA or KK really. What range would you put him on? It was a surprise as odds were against pocket 8's so i diregarded the trips TBH. It was a solid problem asking advice.
    So in future, don't bother taking your valuable time to answer a problem you feel is a 'bad beat story' as its obviously beneath you. My apologies.
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  • donkeyplopdonkeyplop Member Posts: 3,795
    edited July 2012
    Without reads he could have had any 8, any 6, any ace, any straight draw, backdoor flush draw!!

    I would have cbet flop, then folded to a re raise.

    If he then flatted a cbet then unlucky.
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  • jonjo75jonjo75 Member Posts: 999
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    HAHAHAHA boo hoo hoo telll me another bad beat story please, why do you call on the flop? As for how it could be play i might just shove pre as AK is pretty bad on the flop
    Posted by UareLIMPER
    The fact you would shove pre with 50BB tells me all i need to know about your poker and why so rude.
    The OP was putting it up for a bit of fun for the forum.
    Try another one Prof.
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  • Curt360x27Curt360x27 Member Posts: 490
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand? : The fact you would shove pre with 50BB tells me all i need to know about your poker and why so rude. The OP was putting it up for a bit of fun for the forum. Try another one Prof.
    Posted by jonjo75
    +1

    'Oh I have no post flop skillz so i'll just er......... wait............ all in 50bb!'
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  • profman15profman15 Member Posts: 1,808
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    Without reads he could have had any 8, any 6, any ace, any straight draw, backdoor flush draw!! I would have cbet flop, then folded to a re raise. If he then flatted a cbet then unlucky.
    Posted by donkeyplop
    Is that normal play?
     I wouldn't expect call of 320 more with any 8 or 6 unpaired. So what is the range of calling hands in this position from the bb.Thats why i made the raise so big to get rid, hopefully, of people fishing with weak hands. He now has a idea i've got a premium hand so surely he should only be set mining or reraising with AA/KK? Yes? Is this logic flawed?
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  • jams88jams88 Member Posts: 694
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand? : Is that normal play?  I wouldn't expect call of 320 more with any 8 or 6 unpaired. So what is the range of calling hands in this position from the bb.Thats why i made the raise so big to get rid, hopefully, of people fishing with weak hands. He now has a idea i've got a premium hand so surely he should only be set mining or reraising with AA/KK? Yes? Is this logic flawed?
    Posted by profman15
    Its harder to assign ranges in Bounty Hunters espcially the £2.30 ones. I tend to anaylise the table into how they play rock/maniac/loose/passive ect. Doing this you will realise that somepeople will call with any 2 cards if they already have money in the pot regardless of the raise size. If they are suited they can get a flush and get an bounty and if they are no suited well they have 2 different suits to make a flush with even better call call call
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited July 2012
    If you are checking the flop, I think you should fold to his bet.
    Also with the pre flop action I wouldn't even raise it pre, as you will have to put so much in to get all of them to fold! But there is always one donkey that come along and you don't have a made hand. So I would just flat behind and keep the pot small even if I do hit. It seems quite early aswell so no need to go crazy yet.
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  • Batkin88Batkin88 Member Posts: 1,682
    edited July 2012
    In Response to Re: Guess the hand?:
    HAHAHAHA boo hoo hoo telll me another bad beat story please, why do you call on the flop? As for how it could be play i might just shove pre as AK is pretty bad on the flop
    Posted by UareLIMPER
    Where is the bad beat?? Shoving AK pre is basically turning your hand face up, and only getting called by better. Constructive comments on the forum please.
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