Cant you just play a DYM for £4 or some other S&G and pretend its a sattelite into the £8 one? Posted by UareLIMPER
this is a very good valid point to be fair, as you can just play a normal game and if you win it you have the buy in for that more expensive sat and generaly this is what i do. If ive had a good day then i will treat myself to a bigger buy in sat, although saying that if your on a bad run and losing money daily then this dosnt give you any chance at all to play in the spt. I was lucky they did the one off freeroll otherwise i woulda had no chance at playing in one for a while. And im all for the underdog winning stuff and not just the big dogs.
Running them everynight wont make no difference, 4seats, 2 seats they will still be 1/10. I'm sure everyone would prefer 1/5 and that is possible when it's a £100+juice tourney, This is a big buy-in tourney with a proper 2 day structure and as such are never going to be cheap. I think Sky players have been spoilt by the 1-5 sats and are just gonna have to get used to the 1/10 format if they want to play these bigger buy-in tourneys.
Ok I guess a 1 in 10 semi is fair enough....but please please please SKY can we have some micro sats into the 8 quid ones???? It can't be difficult to organise.
Running them everynight wont make no difference, 4seats, 2 seats they will still be 1/10. I'm sure everyone would prefer 1/5 and that is possible when it's a £100+juice tourney, This is a big buy-in tourney with a proper 2 day structure and as such are never going to be cheap. I think Sky players have been spoilt by the 1-5 sats and are just gonna have to get used to the 1/10 format if they want to play these bigger buy-in tourneys. Posted by Mohican
I think you are missing the point.. the 1:10 sats do not generate enough players to fill a 150 player event without opening it up to direct bi (Luton, Cardiff etc.. ) with that in mind filling a 250+ player event is going to be neigh impossible using this method alone..
Also, using your logic - if a £110 SPT event is 1:5, the £220 is 1:10 then surely the £330 should be 1:15???? Dont know about you but I personally dont like those apples!!
Its all very well and good allowing bigger BR's to buy in direct but it kind of goes against getting as many of the community players there as possible don't you think?
Keep the 1:10 for people like you Mo who can afford and prefer the 1:10 method or direct BI but at least allow those who dont a different option.. even if it is only one day per week!!
In Response to Re: SPT sats : I think you are missing the point.. the 1:10 sats do not generate enough players to fill a 150 player event without opening it up to direct bi (Luton, Cardiff etc.. ) with that in mind filling a 250+ player event is going to be neigh impossible using this method alone.. Also, using your logic - if a £110 SPT event is 1:5, the £220 is 1:10 then surely the £330 should be 1:15???? Dont know about you but I personally dont like those apples!! Its all very well and good allowing bigger BR's to buy in direct but it kind of goes against getting as many of the community players there as possible don't you think? Keep the 1:10 for people like you Mo who can afford and prefer the 1:10 method or direct BI but at least allow those who dont a different option.. even if it is only one day per week!! xx Posted by TRIP5
I just wish a rep from sky could post and either say YES they will lay on some micro sats (or another compromise) or NO they are stayin as they are........being ignored is not good
Details of the satellites for Leg 1 of the 2011-12 Sky Poker Tour will be announced soon, but as always each tournament will be designed for smaller bankrolls and focus on great structures.
(this was copied from the Sky Poker Tour section of the forum)
In Response to Re: SPT sats : I think you are missing the point.. the 1:10 sats do not generate enough players to fill a 150 player event without opening it up to direct bi (Luton, Cardiff etc.. ) with that in mind filling a 250+ player event is going to be neigh impossible using this method alone.. Also, using your logic - if a £110 SPT event is 1:5, the £220 is 1:10 then surely the £330 should be 1:15???? Dont know about you but I personally dont like those apples!! Its all very well and good allowing bigger BR's to buy in direct but it kind of goes against getting as many of the community players there as possible don't you think? Keep the 1:10 for people like you Mo who can afford and prefer the 1:10 method or direct BI but at least allow those who dont a different option.. even if it is only one day per week!! xx Posted by TRIP5
AH. Irene the voice of reason, absolutely spot on in both your posts m8.
I would also like to suggest that micro sats run of an evening to feed into following nights semi/final etc.ot just daytime sats.
We had similar situations with VLV sats and despite numerous threads being started nothing was done. I firmly beleive that micro sats would be well supported during the evenings but until someone from SWky Towers gives the ok for a trial we will never know.
There are currently 60 people registered... assuming you get 2 seats every single night (which isn't happening) that's an extra 84 runners which takes it up to 144 runners for a 250 runner event...
Say you take that up to 160 runners to take into account various celeb invites etc that Sky give, that still falls 90 runners short of the cap which is obviously pretty terrible.
You can draw 2 conclusions from this... 1) Direct buy-ins WILL happen... 2) A better satellite structure is needed.
There are 42 days between now and 5th September There are currently 60 people registered... assuming you get 2 seats every single night (which isn't happening) that's an extra 84 runners which takes it up to 144 runners for a 250 runner event... Say you take that up to 160 runners to take into account various celeb invites etc that Sky give, that still falls 90 runners short of the cap which is obviously pretty terrible. You can draw 2 conclusions from this... 1) Direct buy-ins WILL happen... 2) A better satellite structure is needed. Posted by Lambert180
the sats will prob get more popular closer to the event
also the SPT @ DTD will be VERY popular with the outside poker community and DTD can handle around 350 runners easily. There is zero chance that the 250 won't be met. Poker players are generally lazy and will wait and wait and wait until the last minute.
1/10 sats aren't to everyones taste. my advice to anyone who doesn't like the 1 in 10s would be is to use cash/DYMs or an MTT bink as a sat, and save the buy in for when direct buy in is opened....or grind a lot more and save up your C4Ps etc.
I agree with you Waller. I'm happy to have a go at getting to an SPT but i'm not chucking too much money at a small chance. I'd rather pay a lesser amount but have to go through an etra round. It keeps me interested and would involve the whole community which surely is the aim.
In Response to Re: SPT sats : this is a very good valid point to be fair, as you can just play a normal game and if you win it you have the buy in for that more expensive sat and generaly this is what i do. If ive had a good day then i will treat myself to a bigger buy in sat, although saying that if your on a bad run and losing money daily then this dosnt give you any chance at all to play in the spt. I was lucky they did the one off freeroll otherwise i woulda had no chance at playing in one for a while. And im all for the underdog winning stuff and not just the big dogs. Posted by Dazler
Hi Dazler Many congrats by the way. A really cracking effort.. "a good day"? What might that be? I agree with the idea of a 'treat yourself' but still think smaller fee/more rounds is the way to go.
In Response to Re: SPT sats : the sats will prob get more popular closer to the event also the SPT @ DTD will be VERY popular with the outside poker community and DTD can handle around 350 runners easily. There is zero chance that the 250 won't be met. Poker players are generally lazy and will wait and wait and wait until the last minute. 1/10 sats aren't to everyones taste. my advice to anyone who doesn't like the 1 in 10s would be is to use cash/DYMs or an MTT bink as a sat, and save the buy in for when direct buy in is opened....or grind a lot more and save up your C4Ps etc. Posted by scotty77
Of course it will fill via direct BI but I thought the idea was to fill the majority of the SPT final with the Sky community with the DTD regs making up minority, not the other way round?
In Response to Re: SPT sats : Of course it will fill via direct BI but I thought the idea was to fill the majority of the SPT final with the Sky community rather than DTD regs rather than the other way round? xx Posted by TRIP5
Beat me to it Irene. I'm sure most events could easily fill up at DTD regardless of whether a single Sky player turned up or not, but that's not the point is it.
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I think you are missing the point.. the 1:10 sats do not generate enough players to fill a 150 player event without opening it up to direct bi (Luton, Cardiff etc.. ) with that in mind filling a 250+ player event is going to be neigh impossible using this method alone..
Also, using your logic - if a £110 SPT event is 1:5, the £220 is 1:10 then surely the £330 should be 1:15???? Dont know about you but I personally dont like those apples!!
Its all very well and good allowing bigger BR's to buy in direct but it kind of goes against getting as many of the community players there as possible don't you think?
Keep the 1:10 for people like you Mo who can afford and prefer the 1:10 method or direct BI but at least allow those who dont a different option.. even if it is only one day per week!!
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Details of the satellites for Leg 1 of the 2011-12 Sky Poker Tour will be announced soon, but as always each tournament will be designed for smaller bankrolls and focus on great structures.
(this was copied from the Sky Poker Tour section of the forum)
I would also like to suggest that micro sats run of an evening to feed into following nights semi/final etc.ot just daytime sats.
We had similar situations with VLV sats and despite numerous threads being started nothing was done. I firmly beleive that micro sats would be well supported during the evenings but until someone from SWky Towers gives the ok for a trial we will never know.
I've sent notes to Sky Towers, and will respond one way or another when I get a reply
There are currently 60 people registered... assuming you get 2 seats every single night (which isn't happening) that's an extra 84 runners which takes it up to 144 runners for a 250 runner event...
Say you take that up to 160 runners to take into account various celeb invites etc that Sky give, that still falls 90 runners short of the cap which is obviously pretty terrible.
You can draw 2 conclusions from this... 1) Direct buy-ins WILL happen... 2) A better satellite structure is needed.
also the SPT @ DTD will be VERY popular with the outside poker community and DTD can handle around 350 runners easily. There is zero chance that the 250 won't be met. Poker players are generally lazy and will wait and wait and wait until the last minute.
1/10 sats aren't to everyones taste. my advice to anyone who doesn't like the 1 in 10s would be is to use cash/DYMs or an MTT bink as a sat, and save the buy in for when direct buy in is opened....or grind a lot more and save up your C4Ps etc.
Many congrats by the way. A really cracking effort..
"a good day"? What might that be? I agree with the idea of a 'treat yourself' but still think smaller fee/more rounds is the way to go.
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