More high stakes mtts

WOW1tsANDY

Whats the chances of sky including some more higher stakes mtts in the schedule?

even if these tournaments didnt hold a guarented pot... im sure theres room for a £110 game every night and more £50 games too. also there are no tournaments to play during the day. the first tournament i want to play is the two £33 games at 5 and 6pm.

Lambert180

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Whats the chances of sky including some more higher stakes mtts in the schedule? even if these tournaments didnt hold a guarented pot... im sure theres room for a £110 game every night and more £50 games too. also there are no tournaments to play during the day. the first tournament i want to play is the two £33 games at 5 and 6pm.
Posted by WOW1tsANDY

There used to be a £110 Roller every night, and it got dropped, probably when traffic went down in the summer.

WOW1tsANDY

there was a 55 BH game on two weeks ago roughly and it was well supported however it was taken away.

there is a lack of tournaments for people who want to play high stakes mtts. from my time at sky i believe there is a reasonable pool of players who would play these higher games.

A £110 game every night would be perfect, along with a £55 at like 10pm? 

the only hours i can log on to sky to play is between 5-9pm and often only until 8pm because theres simply nothing to play..

Sky_Joe

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there was a 55 BH game on two weeks ago roughly and it was well supported however it was taken away. there is a lack of tournaments for people who want to play high stakes mtts. from my time at sky i believe there is a reasonable pool of players who would play these higher games. A £110 game every night would be perfect, along with a £55 at like 10pm?  the only hours i can log on to sky to play is between 5-9pm and often only until 8pm because theres simply nothing to play..
Posted by WOW1tsANDY

Hi guys,

We are trialing a £4,000 Bounty Hunter at 9pm tonight at £55.00 buy in and would love to hear your feedback.

We are trying to implement a more varied tournament schedule which includes higher buy-in tournaments so watch this space....

Thanks a lot,
Joe

phil12uk

Does it HAVE to be a bounty hunter???????????? Please, please, please can there be variety of choice for 9pm onwards at higher stakes???

bearlyther

Nice 1 would be great to have a tournament like this every night to play on here.

beaneh

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Nice 1 would be great to have a tournament like this every night to play on here.
Posted by bearlyther

this is what they trialled recently.

they were removed because there were not the runners.....

shaun09

You need sattilites running up to theses Biggys i think a day in advance. Only Mtt you can do this for is the 12kbh.(normally)

WOW1tsANDY

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In Response to Re: More high stakes mtts : Hi guys, We are trialing a £4,000 Bounty Hunter at 9pm tonight at £55.00 buy in and would love to hear your feedback. We are trying to implement a more varied tournament schedule which includes higher buy-in tournaments so watch this space.... Thanks a lot, Joe
Posted by Sky_Joe

Thanks for the response and immediate action Joe.

I'm sure this tournament will be a success. Hoping to see more tournaments like this on sky.

Now that the super roller is going to be monthly. Do you think theres room for a quarterly High Roller maybe £250-500 buyin? I'm sure if there was plenty of advertising and sats this would work too!

WOW1tsANDY

There should be a decent tournament starting every hour during skys peak hours. 6-9pm.

6pm  - £33 BH
7pm - £20 freezeout/£10rebuy/£50freezeout
8pm - Main Event

9pm - Higher stakes mtt £50-100 game

any thoughts on this?

TommyD

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There should be a decent tournament starting every hour during skys peak hours. 6-9pm. 6pm  - £33 BH 7pm - £20 freezeout/£10rebuy/£50freezeout 8pm - Main Event 9pm - Higher stakes mtt £50-100 game any thoughts on this?
Posted by WOW1tsANDY

The liquidity on the site just isn't enough as of yet for these to be sustainable.  I remember the old £55 deepstack that ran on a Sunday after Total Player.  After an initial number of runners in the first couple of weeks it turned into a 8 or 9 runner field.  Ditto the Monday night D/S which ran for a while.  When there was a £110 Roller every night again at first there were plenty of runners but numbers soon died and in the process it killed off the old £220 Sunday roller which was IMO an absolute gem of a MTT for this site.  Too many people did their buy ins on the nightly rollers and left off the Sunday one, so it went bye bye.

Liquidity has improved a bunch but it's a gradual process, I just don't think that schedule is sustainable at this time.  I like the slowly slowly approach and really hope the £55 BHer maintains runners after the honeymoon period.

On Bounty Hunters, I feel both the regular playerbase and SkyPoker need to come to a realisation about these.

Regular Playerbase:  There are a significant amount of casual players who love the idea they do not have to cash in the traditional sense to make money.  They feel a little daunted about having to play for a number of hours before making any money and the the prospect of being able to make a buy in within the first hour appeals to a lot of recreational players.  Do some players call with anything to win a bounty?  Of course they do, and long may they play in my game.  Observe, adjust, improve.

SkyPoker:  Just because the BHers get so many runners is not proof that everyone loves BHers.  As I detailed above there is a significant number who do prefer them.  However there is an equally significant number of people who just want to play a decent buy in, decent structured MTT and while they would prefer it was a freezeout they, for want of a better term, are going to take what they can get.

I feel both sides are far focussed on a 'We Hate BHers, people call with anything' versus 'They get tons of runners so everyone must love them' edges of the debate rather than the truth, which as it usually is, is somewhere in the middle.

huuuuume

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There should be a decent tournament starting every hour during skys peak hours. 6-9pm. 6pm  - £33 BH 7pm - £20 freezeout/£10rebuy/£50freezeout 8pm - Main Event 9pm - Higher stakes mtt £50-100 game any thoughts on this?
Posted by WOW1tsANDY

there will never be enough players to run this sort of schedule.  the nightly £100 tournaments were a terrible idea imo and lasted a couple of months before it became a glorified sit and go.

huuuuume

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In Response to Re: More high stakes mtts : The liquidity on the site just isn't enough as of yet for these to be sustainable.  I remember the old £55 deepstack that ran on a Sunday after Total Player.  After an initial number of runners in the first couple of weeks it turned into a 8 or 9 runner field.  Ditto the Monday night D/S which ran for a while.  When there was a £110 Roller every night again at first there were plenty of runners but numbers soon died and in the process it killed off the old £220 Sunday roller which was IMO an absolute gem of a MTT for this site.  Too many people did their buy ins on the nightly rollers and left off the Sunday one, so it went bye bye. Liquidity has improved a bunch but it's a gradual process, I just don't think that schedule is sustainable at this time.  I like the slowly slowly approach and really hope the £55 BHer maintains runners after the honeymoon period. On Bounty Hunters, I feel both the regular playerbase and SkyPoker need to come to a realisation about these. Regular Playerbase:  There are a significant amount of casual players who love the idea they do not have to cash in the traditional sense to make money.  They feel a little daunted about having to play for a number of hours before making any money and the the prospect of being able to make a buy in within the first hour appeals to a lot of recreational players.  Do some players call with anything to win a bounty?  Of course they do, and long may they play in my game.  Observe, adjust, improve. SkyPoker:  Just because the BHers get so many runners is not proof that everyone loves BHers.  As I detailed above there is a significant number who do prefer them.  However there is an equally significant number of people who just want to play a decent buy in, decent structured MTT and while they would prefer it was a freezeout they, for want of a better term, are going to take what they can get. I feel both sides are far focussed on a 'We Hate BHers, people call with anything' versus 'They get tons of runners so everyone must love them' edges of the debate rather than the truth, which as it usually is, is somewhere in the middle.
Posted by TommyD

pretty much agree with this.  i often get the impression though that sky have not adjusted to the fact that most people are now playing several tables at a time.  there should be more variety because people arent in a position where they have to choose one tournament over another anymore

WOW1tsANDY

so what would you suggest tommy/huuuume as regards improvements on the currect schedule?

also, think there's any place for a quarterly £200+ game?

TommyD

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so what would you suggest tommy/huuuume as regards improvements on the currect schedule? also, think there's any place for a quarterly £200+ game?
Posted by WOW1tsANDY

I like the current progression with things like the £55 game tonight.  You can't go overboard, the majority of the SkyPoker MTT playerbase are recreational players playing with disposable income and do not play more than two or three tables at a time.  (This is my opinion, I have to inside knowledge on this).

I'd like to see the old £22 Monday night deepstack come back but I'd move it to another day of the week to avoid a clash with the DTD.

The old £220 Sunday Roller was run on a weekly basis and made it's guarantee even through the Summer (although there were plenty of winner takes a seat sats which did not always fill so I don't know if SkyPoker ended up taking a loss because of these).  If it was around sustainable weekly I can definitely see it being sustainable quarterly, provided a good sat structure was in place.

However another thing to remember is everyone in the world is skint at the moment, and most players are playing off of disposable income.  I like the idea of the £110 monthly roller, with some structure tweaks I think it could be a lovely runner.

TommyD

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In Response to Re: More high stakes mtts : pretty much agree with this.  i often get the impression though that sky have not adjusted to the fact that most people are now playing several tables at a time.  there should be more variety because people arent in a position where they have to choose one tournament over another anymore
Posted by huuuuume

I don't think this is true for the majority.  I think most are playing 1-3 tables at a time.  Also while most regs have a roll most players have a budget, you just can't stretch it too far.

bolly580

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You need sattilites running up to theses Biggys i think a day in advance. Only Mtt you can do this for is the 12kbh.(normally)
Posted by shaun09

+1 heaven only knows why they dont have one for the primo every day

shaun09

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In Response to Re: More high stakes mtts : +1 heaven only knows why they dont have one for the primo every day
Posted by bolly580

My bad They do have sats for the primo actually. But like te monday night BH, They only run sats for that during the day, Alot of people like to Book there place in these biggys befor the day, instead of sattilting like crazy on the day of the mtt. imo would be better to have monday night BH sattilites over he weekend into semis of an evening. Like they do with primo/12kBH

skicowboys

Schedules like this have been put forward before and as others have said, after a short period have failed. The best chance would be on the busier days, Thur, Fri, Sun and see how it goes. If they meet the guarantee then you could expand to other nights. Also from Sept onwards the traffic increases so this would make it more sustainable.
Satellites are a bit of an issue for me. I enjoyed the old 5pm 10 minute blind levels sats into the main events, these were all replaced with 6pm 5 minute shove fests, which for me reduces the skill factor, as a result i play less.
If we are going to have sats for bigger tournies, can we please have better structures, if we had them the night before then they wouldn't have to be finished in record time and i'd be a big fan of that!

bearlyther

I believe its not too far stretched for these stakes games to happen on a regular bases.  Yes the average £110 bounty hunter gets around 60 runners but always meets the guarantee.  The super roller always meets the guarantee.  If these games are promoted in the right way people will play them we are seeing more people move to sky from other sites because the structure of these tournaments are good and they are good value for money. There could definately be 1 £110 game on every night, the super roller once a month and a £220 game on maybe every couple of months.  If these games are on a regular bases more and more people will come to the site because of the structure.  The reason why there is not a massive volume of players in these tournaments as yet is because there are limited games for serious mtt grinders to play.  Playing 1 or 2 tournaments a night just wont cut it so that is why there is not a massive volume in player pool as yet but i believe it will come if these games are introduced.

Lambert180

Bearlyther, there used to be a £110 roller every night of the week, so it did happen, and obviously there wasn't enough interest because they all got dropped. The thing about doing a big roller every now and then is it's a special occasion for the lower stakes players and they're all happy to try satelliting in for a big payday as a one-off, but if these happened every week, I'm pretty sure the number of satellite entrants would be nothing like it was for the 20k roller, so you get left msotly with people who can BI direct and there just aint that many.