Just to let you know that I have had to delete a couple of posts on here which gave links to other poker sites. I can understand the reasoning behind the posting but because they were direct links to other sites i'm aftraid they had to go.
On another thread the point was brought up that this is a 6 max site and pay out's go 5 to 8.So you can make a final table and be the cash bubble.If we are adjusting things it seem to make sense do away with 5 and make it 6 by moving next pay-out to 35 or 36.
like someone mentioned earlier primo payout structure is pretty bad imo 30-11th is basically £10-20 difference i would suggest ~10% of field get paid, for 100+ mtt's make payouts jump every 6 (or multiples there of) places not 9. as all the tourneys are 6max Posted by LOL_RAISE
listen to this man
say theres a £10 200 runner 2k GTD mtt i think the payout structure should be like this
1st - 20% - £400
2nd - 16% - £320
3rd - 12.5% - £250
4th - 9.5% - £190
5th - 7% - £140
6th - 5% - £100
7th - 4% - £80
8th - 3.35% - £67
9th - 2.65 - £53
10-15th - 2% - £40
16-20th - 1.6% - £32
so a slightly 'flatter' payour structure than normal
As Sky tables are 6 seats, I would use 6 as the magic figure when considering pay out levels.
For example in the example set out in the OP, 100 runners, £11 entry, £1,000 prize pool:
Place
Paid
% of Prize
1st
£320
32%
2nd
£175
17.50%
3rd
£125
12.50%
4th
£95
9.50%
5th
£75
7.50%
6th
£60
6%
7th
£45
4.50%
8th
£33
3.30%
9th
£25
2.50%
10th
£20
2%
11th
£15
1.50%
12th
£12
1.20%
This means in a field of 100, reaching the final 12%, or final 2 tables are rewarded, furthermore, when reaching the final 2 tables, there are no more bubbles or slow play to worry about, you can just get on and play poker, knowing you are already in profit.
For fields of 30 -50 I would like to see reaching the final table of 6 rewarded.
Example of 50 runners, £11entry, £500 prize pool:
Place
Paid
% of Prize
1st
£175
35%
2nd
£100
20.00%
3rd
£75
15.00%
4th
£60
12.00%
5th
£50
10.00%
6th
£40
8%
Again once you have reached the final table you are in profit, nothing is more frustrating than playing for a couple of hours, reaching the final table and go out in 6th, without a return.
So for a 'worst case' scenario with a smaller field of 30 runners, £11entry and £300 prizepool:
Place
Paid
% of Prize
1st
£105
35%
2nd
£60
20.00%
3rd
£45
15.00%
4th
£36
12.00%
5th
£30
10.00%
6th
£24
8%
Rewarding all 6 players that reach the final table, ensures poker is played freely without the fear of exiting a mtt on the final table without a return.
The ability to do deals on the FT of big events would be real progression.
I think the payout structure is often top heavy and in the nightly ME and special events ie. 25k gtd, you can often see it 3 handed with an average stack of 12bbs, flipping for hundreds/ thousands.
Just to specify this would be solely for the bigger events as it takes some mediation from skypoker staff.
I quite like Solly's structure TBH. I completely agree no more than 10% of the field should be paid in any MTT.
On deals, fine to bring them in, but have the system where by everyone has a check box for 'Willing to discuss a deal' but no one else knows how many people have checked it, similar to another site. Do not have a counter saying how many people are willing to do a deal like another site did have (might still do, haven't played there in a long while), this just causes grief when everyone can see one person holding out.
Am in agreement with the Dart on almost all the proposed payment structures.
The only alteration I would suggest in the larger fields is that the payout for 13 -18th is 1.15 % & 19 - 24th is 1.10 % & therefore the min cash is at least equivelant to the entry fee paid.
Am in agreement with the Dart on almost all the proposed payment structures. The only alteration I would suggest in the larger fields is that the payout for 13 -18th is 1.15 % & 19 - 24th is 1.10 % & therefore the min cash is at least equivelant to the entry fee paid. Posted by Woogie8688
Woogie,
The larger event, is calculated on an £11 entry, so all payouts down to 24 would equate to a profit.
In Response to Re: Feedback - MTT Payout Structures : Woogie, The larger event, is calculated on an £11 entry, so all payouts down to 24 would equate to a profit. Thanks Posted by TheDart
Sorry m8,
I see where you are coming from now (my bad) however I see no reason as to why the payout bandings are not table related ie 13th - 18th & 19th - 24th & 25th to 30th etc as the field numbers increase, once beyond a certain point this then becomes a band of 12 ie 31st - 42nd & 43rd to 54th & if required for even larger fields then that band can be increased to 24
In Response to Re: Feedback - MTT Payout Structures : Sorry m8, I see where you are coming from now (my bad) however I see no reason as to why the payout bandings are not table related ie 13th - 18th & 19th - 24th & 25th to 30th etc as the field numbers increase, once beyond a certain point this then becomes a band of 12 ie 31st - 42nd & 43rd to 54th & if required for even larger fields then that band can be increased to 24 Posted by Woogie8688
Actually, payout bandings being table related was how I first drafted it.
So yes for the 200 runner field, you could have 1.25% payout for 13 - 18 and 0.75% for 19 - 24.
I just thought maybe the payout could reflect progress a little better in the tournament the deeper you go.
Maybe at the lower end it doesn't matter too much just as long as you are recouping your investment + small profit.
In Response to Re: Feedback - MTT Payout Structures : listen to this man say theres a £10 200 runner 2k GTD mtt i think the payout structure should be like this 1st - 20% - £400 2nd - 16% - £320 3rd - 12.5% - £250 4th - 9.5% - £190 5th - 7% - £140 6th - 5% - £100 7th - 4% - £80 8th - 3.35% - £67 9th - 2.65 - £53 10-15th - 2% - £40 16-20th - 1.6% - £32 so a slightly 'flatter' payour structure than normal Posted by sikas
+1 to this
much better not flipping for big pay jumps towards the top 5 - unless Sky improve later stages where you have more play then i think the payout structure should be this if there's more room for play when you reach FT then the pay out jumps can be bigger
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i would suggest ~10% of field get paid, for 100+ mtt's make payouts jump every 6 (or multiples there of) places not 9. as all the tourneys are 6max
For example in the example set out in the OP, 100 runners, £11 entry, £1,000 prize pool:
For fields of 30 -50 I would like to see reaching the final table of 6 rewarded.
Example of 50 runners, £11entry, £500 prize pool:
So for a 'worst case' scenario with a smaller field of 30 runners, £11entry and £300 prizepool:
I quite like Solly's structure TBH. I completely agree no more than 10% of the field should be paid in any MTT.
On deals, fine to bring them in, but have the system where by everyone has a check box for 'Willing to discuss a deal' but no one else knows how many people have checked it, similar to another site. Do not have a counter saying how many people are willing to do a deal like another site did have (might still do, haven't played there in a long while), this just causes grief when everyone can see one person holding out.
The larger event, is calculated on an £11 entry, so all payouts down to 24 would equate to a profit.
Thanks
So yes for the 200 runner field, you could have 1.25% payout for 13 - 18 and 0.75% for 19 - 24.
I just thought maybe the payout could reflect progress a little better in the tournament the deeper you go.
Maybe at the lower end it doesn't matter too much just as long as you are recouping your investment + small profit.
+1 to this
much better not flipping for big pay jumps towards the top 5 -
unless Sky improve later stages where you have more play then i think the payout structure should be this
if there's more room for play when you reach FT then the pay out jumps can be bigger
plus lower there's no min cash - nice