There might even more blathering than usual in this post. May break it up a little as it's hard to be bothered to read a complete wall of text. It'll all meander along getting nowhere in particular. There is another poker forum that I read as well as this one. It used to be wonderful. It's run by a prominent, very well respected chap in poker. There were some great diaries written by people who had started at the bottom and moved up and were now making a living from the game. That I'd played with a few of them made it even more interesting to read as I felt that I kind of knew them, even though I didn't. The diaries have now mostly disappeared and now I can go onto the main page of the forum and on occasions there has only been 3 or 4 posts in the whole day. There are still 2 diaries on there that I absolutely love reading. One is written by a guy who 4 years ago was lacking a little in confidence and decided to name his new diary "The best in the business" No doubt people cringed when they saw this but he didn't just talk the talk. He's now rated no1 on pocketfives and his journey has been fascinating to read. His drive in incredible. The other diary I enjoy is totally different. Poker is occasionally mentioned but the stories and observations are what makes it great reading. It's highly popular and some very sharp people post on there. I'm not the smartest and I need to look up half the words that they use. On this diary the other day it was said that there may be some truth in that forums/blogs are now dying with Facebook and Twitter taking over. Is this the case? Sadly, I think that might be the case with the other forum. But here? I don't think so. There are some poor periods, I think we're just coming through one, when there's trolling, everyone seeming to be angry etc but I think this forum has and will continue to come back strongly. In my opinion we're very lucky to have this forum. Sky don't need it. I spoke to one of the Sky guys at Newcastle and I can't remember the exact number but it was an incredibly small % of players who use the forum. Posted by Jac35
So many things to comment upon there......
Trolling? It tends to increase whern a Forum is going throuigh a quiet spell. The summer is bad for Online Poker, & so the Forums go quiet, too.
Mid to late summer, there was deffo an influx of trolls here.
In several cases, people who had never played here, or only played "Play Money" games, were coming on & making observations which were pure trolling. The great thing was that most people recognized them for what they were. We can look at the previous Post History of these trolls & soon see that all their posts are negative. I'm not sure what buzz they get from doing it, but they must have really dull lives if that is how they get their kicks.
I do think that Forums & Blogs are less popular than they used to be, but the Summer never helps.
Since your Post, both the 2 Forums you mention have picked up a bit, with new Diaries & more activity.
Fair to say, the Community software here is not the greatest.......over at the other place, I can - & do - measure the daily Post Count, & I'm pleased to say it has picked up in ther last month, & October has continued that trend.
That "Best In The Business" chap is Patrick Leonard, & I see he has been nominated for no less than THREE Bluff Europe Gongs. Good luck, I hope he gets at least one. Don't know if you have ever met him, but he is shorter than Matt Bates.
He is a Geordie, currently living in Budapest, Hungary with a bunch of high roller guys. 'Stars have had to withdraw from Hungary (& 23 other countries, too), so he is going to move to Malta shortly. Living the dream, & all that.
They, sort of, belong to the Members, & its up to the Members to make a little effort if they want the Forum to work. Moaning about them makes no sense. We all have the power to make them better.
When new Diaries start, it only takes a moment to Post on them, & offer a little encouragement.
Starting new threads helps, too. Some folks have never started a new thread in their life, but they sit there & say the Forum is poo.... Go figure. If people want a good forum, they need to help build it. The power rests with us all.
There are posters who have never made one positive post. Gawd knows what these people must be like in real life. Spend all the time criticising, but never do anything themselves. Not my fault Guv.
There is always a mini-mutiny, too, when someone gets chat-banned, but the fact is, it is VERY hard to get chat-banned, they generally get 2 or 3 warnings first. And you have to have rules, you just do.
All things considered, especially the quality of the Forum Software here, I think this place is pretty decent actually, populated, for the most part, by really decent people.
It'd be a real shame to lose it, so its up to the people who use it to try & look after it, & do their bit, start interesting new threads, be nice & positive, put a bit of tlc into the place.
We have no entitlement to anything, & we'll get out of it what we put into it.
Another point you mentioned was how Forums work. They, sort of, belong to the Members, & its up to the Members to make a little effort if they want the Forum to work. Moaning about them makes no sense. We all have the power to make them better. When new Diaries start, it only takes a moment to Post on them, & offer a little encouragement. Starting new threads helps, too. Some folks have never started a new thread in their life, but they sit there & say the Forum is poo.... Go figure. If people want a good forum, they need to help build it. The power rests with us all. There are posters who have never made one positive post. Gawd knows what these people must be like in real life. Spend all the time criticising, but never do anything themselves. Not my fault Guv. There is always a mini-mutiny, too, when someone gets chat-banned, but the fact is, it is VERY hard to get chat-banned, they generally get 2 or 3 warnings first. And you have to have rules, you just do. All things considered, especially the quality of the Forum Software here, I think this place is pretty decent actually, populated, for the most part, by really decent people. It'd be a real shame to lose it, so its up to the people who use it to try & look after it, & do their bit, start interesting new threads, be nice & positive, put a bit of tlc into the place. We have no entitlement to anything, & we'll get out of it what we put into it. Posted by Tikay10
I remember when I first started this thread I'd deliberated over doing it for a while. I eas nervous that nobody would post and it would all be a bit embarrassing. Within a couple of hours you, Vespa, Maxally and Devonfish had posted. I thought what a friendly place it was and wanted to post more. I was thinking "what nice guys" (I didn't know Maxally back then)
I love Plenos diary. For me though he did his best ever post this week. Nothibg to di with poker. He's a lad who's highly jntelligent, incredibly good at poker but lacking slightly in normal life skills. Goal for the day was to s buy a portable heater. Reason being that he had no idea of how to turn a radiator on
In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : I remember when I first started this thread I'd deliberated over doing it for a while. I eas nervous that nobody would post and it would all be a bit embarrassing. Within a couple of hours you, Vespa, Maxally and Devonfish had posted. I thought what a friendly place it was and wanted to post more. I was thinking "what nice guys" (I didn't know Maxally back then) I love Plenos diary. For me though he did his best ever post this week. Nothibg to di with poker. He's a lad who's highly jntelligent, incredibly good at poker but lacking slightly in normal life skills. Goal for the day was to s buy a portable heater. Reason being that he had no idea of how to turn a radiator on Posted by Jac35
FYP slightly.
Yup, here's a lad who, literally, gets the LOT at Online Poker, his results are unbelievable. And he had no idea how to bleed a radiator!
Supports Newcastle United, too, though "supports" is maybe the wrong word. Pardew is a clown.....
In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : FYP slightly. Yup, here's a lad who, literally, gets the LOT at Online Poker, his results are unbelievable. And he had no idea how to bleed a radiator! Supports Newcastle United, too, though "supports" is maybe the wrong word. Pardew is a clown..... Posted by Tikay10
Little did i realise 2 years ago what trouble I'd be getting into posting on your thread. ironic as well in that i was explaining how joining a team helped my mtt play.
how is your new team going Paul? Don't hear you talk of it much, if at all.
And yes how sad am i that you got me to go back to see what my first post on your thread was. and a whole 2 weeks after it started. Still on page 2 mind you.
Sorry Jac, I said to you on FB a while ago I'd pop in and give my thoughts here but forgot to...
It's probably old news now and you've already made your decision, and I'll probably only be repeating stuff everyone else has already said but here goes....
1) If you play MTTs on here, you will already be better than like 80-90% of the field in pretty muc every single MTT on the site. So there's no question there imo about your ability to beat them.
2) People talk about swings and they can be big in MTTs, BUT... if you're gonna play them anywhere, then Sky is probably the best place in terms of low variance. All the fields are pretty small and your edge over the average joe will be pretty big imo... plus a huge % of games are BHs which are obv lower variance because you'll 'cash' a lot more often, so I really don't think you'd experience huge swings on here. Like if you just played every £11 BH (think there's 6-7 per day) and nothing else, I reckon if you had only £400 in your account you would never go bus ever.
3) I said this to you online but I guess it's all about what you want. Imo there's no question that you would win more £££ playing MTTs on here than DYMs it's just about in what form that money comes. DYMs you're probably gonna have pretty consistent wins all year round, sometimes it'll be £300 in a month, sometimes £150, sometimes £500 but I'd back you to win 12 months from 12 playing DYMs. With MTTs, I think you'd win more money over the year but it'll be a lot more erratic (sp?)... some months you'll lose £200, some months you'll win £2-3k, and everything in between.
Little did i realise 2 years ago what trouble I'd be getting into posting on your thread. ironic as well in that i was explaining how joining a team helped my mtt play. how is your new team going Paul? Don't hear you talk of it much, if at all. And yes how sad am i that you got me to go back to see what my first post on your thread was. and a whole 2 weeks after it started. Still on page 2 mind you. Posted by GELDY
Trouble?
Team is good. My problem is that I don't contribute much. Feel a bit bad about that. Mondays aren't good for me. Penny is out and I make tea and put the boy to bed. The first Dtd game is a little early for me.
Sorry Jac, I said to you on FB a while ago I'd pop in and give my thoughts here but forgot to... It's probably old news now and you've already made your decision, and I'll probably only be repeating stuff everyone else has already said but here goes.... 1) If you play MTTs on here, you will already be better than like 80-90% of the field in pretty muc every single MTT on the site. So there's no question there imo about your ability to beat them. 2) People talk about swings and they can be big in MTTs, BUT... if you're gonna play them anywhere, then Sky is probably the best place in terms of low variance. All the fields are pretty small and your edge over the average joe will be pretty big imo... plus a huge % of games are BHs which are obv lower variance because you'll 'cash' a lot more often, so I really don't think you'd experience huge swings on here. Like if you just played every £11 BH (think there's 6-7 per day) and nothing else, I reckon if you had only £400 in your account you would never go bus ever. 3) I said this to you online but I guess it's all about what you want. Imo there's no question that you would win more £££ playing MTTs on here than DYMs it's just about in what form that money comes. DYMs you're probably gonna have pretty consistent wins all year round, sometimes it'll be £300 in a month, sometimes £150, sometimes £500 but I'd back you to win 12 months from 12 playing DYMs. With MTTs, I think you'd win more money over the year but it'll be a lot more erratic (sp?)... some months you'll lose £200, some months you'll win £2-3k, and everything in between. Posted by Lambert180
Ta for posting Paul. Some interesting points there. Yeah, the Dyms are low variance and I can expect to win each month. It's a lot different with mtts. Dohhhhhhh (wonder where he's gone at the moment? pity he's not posting right now as he's one of the best forum members) made a good observation that I'm not going to move forward playing the Dyms. He's quite right. I feel that I've stood still really over the last couple of years and that means plenty of others pass you. Going to continue with the Dyms as that should ensure monthly profits. Going to play a little less of them though and throw in more mtts and get better at cash online.
Means alot that a respected forum member is reading it.
I always drop by yours when I am forum browsing because I know it will be a good read.
I guess I am as guilty as many of reading a lot and not posting enough (especially in others peoples diaries when I don't "know" them).
General point as like you I struggle to fit the MTTs in time wise whether you think a series of 1hour timed tourneys would be useful? Put on at 9-10, 930-1030, 10-11? I would certainly give those a go with the potential of much bigger results than a SNG in a similar time frame.
In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : Ta for posting Paul. Some interesting points there. Yeah, the Dyms are low variance and I can expect to win each month. It's a lot different with mtts. Dohhhhhhh (wonder where he's gone at the moment? pity he's not posting right now as he's one of the best forum members) made a good observation that I'm not going to move forward playing the Dyms. He's quite right. I feel that I've stood still really over the last couple of years and that means plenty of others pass you. Going to continue with the Dyms as that should ensure monthly profits. Going to play a little less of them though and throw in more mtts and get better at cash online. Posted by Jac35
From your exploits at the NL50 tables last month it may be that cash could provide the twin goal or progressing as a player while ensuring a more consistent monthly profit (vs mtt)?
Saw on the news feed this morning that Kris Commons is getting linked for a move back to the E Midlands. Can't see for one second that he'd come back to Forest after the death threats... but would he be any more welcome back in Derby?
Thanks Phantom and Hippy. I really appreciate it when I get those sort of comments. Worry sometimes that I'm just droning on a lot so it's nice to know people enjoy it.
Interesting one that Phantom. Only ever played a couple of the timed mtts. Might give them a try sometime.
In Response to Re: Ramblings of an old man : From your exploits at the NL50 tables last month it may be that cash could provide the twin goal or progressing as a player while ensuring a more consistent monthly profit (vs mtt)? Saw on the news feed this morning that Kris Commons is getting linked for a move back to the E Midlands. Can't see for one second that he'd come back to Forest after the death threats... but would he be any more welcome back in Derby? Posted by shakinaces
I'd happily welcome Commons back to Derby. Doubt it would happen. I don't think that Derby fans have got much against him. Our previous manager allowed his contract to run down and constantly slated him in the press. Celtic came in and offered him more money and Champions League football. Can't really blame him for going. I can see why he upset your lot. Bit different moving to your main rival etc
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Yup, agree, has to be good.
Which reminds me, you asked me to reply to something a week or two ago. I'll go try & find it, & reply, now.
Trolling? It tends to increase whern a Forum is going throuigh a quiet spell. The summer is bad for Online Poker, & so the Forums go quiet, too.
Mid to late summer, there was deffo an influx of trolls here.
In several cases, people who had never played here, or only played "Play Money" games, were coming on & making observations which were pure trolling. The great thing was that most people recognized them for what they were. We can look at the previous Post History of these trolls & soon see that all their posts are negative. I'm not sure what buzz they get from doing it, but they must have really dull lives if that is how they get their kicks.
I do think that Forums & Blogs are less popular than they used to be, but the Summer never helps.
Since your Post, both the 2 Forums you mention have picked up a bit, with new Diaries & more activity.
Fair to say, the Community software here is not the greatest.......over at the other place, I can - & do - measure the daily Post Count, & I'm pleased to say it has picked up in ther last month, & October has continued that trend.
That "Best In The Business" chap is Patrick Leonard, & I see he has been nominated for no less than THREE Bluff Europe Gongs. Good luck, I hope he gets at least one. Don't know if you have ever met him, but he is shorter than Matt Bates.
He is a Geordie, currently living in Budapest, Hungary with a bunch of high roller guys. 'Stars have had to withdraw from Hungary (& 23 other countries, too), so he is going to move to Malta shortly. Living the dream, & all that.
Another point you mentioned was how Forums work.
They, sort of, belong to the Members, & its up to the Members to make a little effort if they want the Forum to work. Moaning about them makes no sense. We all have the power to make them better.
When new Diaries start, it only takes a moment to Post on them, & offer a little encouragement.
Starting new threads helps, too. Some folks have never started a new thread in their life, but they sit there & say the Forum is poo.... Go figure. If people want a good forum, they need to help build it. The power rests with us all.
There are posters who have never made one positive post. Gawd knows what these people must be like in real life. Spend all the time criticising, but never do anything themselves. Not my fault Guv.
There is always a mini-mutiny, too, when someone gets chat-banned, but the fact is, it is VERY hard to get chat-banned, they generally get 2 or 3 warnings first. And you have to have rules, you just do.
All things considered, especially the quality of the Forum Software here, I think this place is pretty decent actually, populated, for the most part, by really decent people.
It'd be a real shame to lose it, so its up to the people who use it to try & look after it, & do their bit, start interesting new threads, be nice & positive, put a bit of tlc into the place.
We have no entitlement to anything, & we'll get out of it what we put into it.
Yup, here's a lad who, literally, gets the LOT at Online Poker, his results are unbelievable. And he had no idea how to bleed a radiator!
Supports Newcastle United, too, though "supports" is maybe the wrong word. Pardew is a clown.....
It's probably old news now and you've already made your decision, and I'll probably only be repeating stuff everyone else has already said but here goes....
1) If you play MTTs on here, you will already be better than like 80-90% of the field in pretty muc every single MTT on the site. So there's no question there imo about your ability to beat them.
2) People talk about swings and they can be big in MTTs, BUT... if you're gonna play them anywhere, then Sky is probably the best place in terms of low variance. All the fields are pretty small and your edge over the average joe will be pretty big imo... plus a huge % of games are BHs which are obv lower variance because you'll 'cash' a lot more often, so I really don't think you'd experience huge swings on here. Like if you just played every £11 BH (think there's 6-7 per day) and nothing else, I reckon if you had only £400 in your account you would never go bus ever.
3) I said this to you online but I guess it's all about what you want. Imo there's no question that you would win more £££ playing MTTs on here than DYMs it's just about in what form that money comes. DYMs you're probably gonna have pretty consistent wins all year round, sometimes it'll be £300 in a month, sometimes £150, sometimes £500 but I'd back you to win 12 months from 12 playing DYMs. With MTTs, I think you'd win more money over the year but it'll be a lot more erratic (sp?)... some months you'll lose £200, some months you'll win £2-3k, and everything in between.
Team is good. My problem is that I don't contribute much. Feel a bit bad about that. Mondays aren't good for me. Penny is out and I make tea and put the boy to bed. The first Dtd game is a little early for me.
You're not sad Geldy, just different
Ta for posting Paul. Some interesting points there. Yeah, the Dyms are low variance and I can expect to win each month. It's a lot different with mtts.
Dohhhhhhh (wonder where he's gone at the moment? pity he's not posting right now as he's one of the best forum members) made a good observation that I'm not going to move forward playing the Dyms. He's quite right. I feel that I've stood still really over the last couple of years and that means plenty of others pass you.
Going to continue with the Dyms as that should ensure monthly profits. Going to play a little less of them though and throw in more mtts and get better at cash online.
I enjoyed that, would love to hear more of your story!
Means alot that a respected forum member is reading it.
I always drop by yours when I am forum browsing because I know it will be a good read.
I guess I am as guilty as many of reading a lot and not posting enough (especially in others peoples diaries when I don't "know" them).
General point as like you I struggle to fit the MTTs in time wise whether you think a series of 1hour timed tourneys would be useful? Put on at 9-10, 930-1030, 10-11? I would certainly give those a go with the potential of much bigger results than a SNG in a similar time frame.
Saw on the news feed this morning that Kris Commons is getting linked for a move back to the E Midlands. Can't see for one second that he'd come back to Forest after the death threats... but would he be any more welcome back in Derby?
I really appreciate it when I get those sort of comments. Worry sometimes that I'm just droning on a lot so it's nice to know people enjoy it.
Interesting one that Phantom. Only ever played a couple of the timed mtts. Might give them a try sometime.
I don't think that Derby fans have got much against him. Our previous manager allowed his contract to run down and constantly slated him in the press. Celtic came in and offered him more money and Champions League football. Can't really blame him for going.
I can see why he upset your lot. Bit different moving to your main rival etc