MINI EVENTS

FlyingDagg

Follwing the thread started by Sky about increasing the price of the mini event to £5-50 I now see that the last 4 Minis including tonight have all been priced at £5-50, the last £3-30 event being Fridays Mini Open. Does this mean that all Minis are now £5-50 irrespective of the main buy in being £33 or £55? If this is so Sky I would like some answers.

Why were we not informed that the dearer price was being adopted after the "trial run"?
As you well know the Minis were a way for the smaller BR player to take on some of the bigger names and try and improve their game. I am not rolled to pay £5-50 for every Mini so now will stop playing them and I'm sure I won't be the only one. You've taken yet another option away from the smaller rolled player and done this after a "trial" where I believe the outcome was never in any doubt.

At the bottom of this page there are large letters that say responsible gambling. This works both ways and Sky have done nothing with this move to encourage it.
I love playing on this site but this decision I believe is wrong. Don't forget players with a big BR can afford to play any game they want. Us smaller players are slowly being squeezed out and I don't like it one little bit.

A very disillusioned FlyingDagg.

smarr

In Response to MINI EVENTS:

Follwing the thread started by Sky about increasing the price of the mini event to £5-50 I now see that the last 4 Minis including tonight have all been priced at £5-50, the last £3-30 event being Fridays Mini Open. Does this mean that all Minis are now £5-50 irrespective of the main buy in being £33 or £55? If this is so Sky I would like some answers. Why were we not informed that the dearer price was being adopted after the "trial run"? As you well know the Minis were a way for the smaller BR player to take on some of the bigger names and try and improve their game. I am not rolled to pay £5-50 for every Mini so now will stop playing them and I'm sure I won't be the only one. You've taken yet another option away from the smaller rolled player and done this after a "trial" where I believe the outcome was never in any doubt. At the bottom of this page there are large letters that say responsible gambling . This works both ways and Sky have done nothing with this move to encourage it. I love playing on this site but this decision I believe is wrong. Don't forget players with a big BR can afford to play any game they want. Us smaller players are slowly being squeezed out and I don't like it one little bit. A very disillusioned FlyingDagg.
Posted by FlyingDagg

Agree with this 100%, i now overlook the mini's as the price is just too high. Along with taking away other small buy in tournys... and one was put back with a smaller gurantee.

MAXALLY

+1

Totally agree Dale. I said at the time it was pointless putting up a thread to 'discuss' the options, as Sky would implement what they wanted regardless of feedback given.

FlyingDagg

Exactly. thats why I put "trial run" in quotes. I believe it was all predetermined.

MADMOO

100% agree Dale.

MAXALLY

I have asked on the 'ask Tikay' thread for clarification as I believe there has been no announcement of this possible permanent change.

VespaPX

+1

Kiwini4u

100% agree with you Dale.  Sky really don't seem to have grasped the concept of promoting responsible gambling.  Either that or the REALLY don't want low level players on the site any more.

jonjo75

So if you play higher stakes does that mean you have a gambling problem or are not gambling responsibly.
I agree with you about why did SKY bother asking but this gambling responsibly bit is not relevent to your point at all.

FlyingDagg

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So if you play higher stakes does that mean you have a gambling problem or are not gambling responsibly. I agree with you about why did SKY bother asking but this gambling responsibly bit is laughable.
Posted by jonjo75

No jonjo responsible gambling means playing within your bankroll. There are lots of players with a smaller BR who played the Minis, me included. But to have the funds to play Minis regularly now would require a BR increase of 66% I believe someone said. It is encouraging some players to play at a level that they may not realistically be able to afford.

DOHHHHHHH

There's always higer buy in games there to tempt people, no matter what level they are rolled to play at. That argument doesn't carry much weight imo. 

It's not like there's a shortage of low stakes games, there's loads. Much more micro games than medium-high anyway. Run better micro bankrolls

I think a 50p buy in, £100gtd comp wud be good, maybe another £1 100gtd at about 9pm. 

Don't know much about the freeroll schedule, other than they allow rebuys (lololol) but there must be a couple a night?

It's not like micro players can't get a game. 

pomfrittes

  I agree with FD here with regards the way in which this has been done but feel that the responsible gambling

  arguement is detracting from the main issue.  The mini events were introduced as a result of a forum comp.

  and were proposed by Maxally. His proposal was that the minis should cost 10% of the main.  They were recognised

  by Sky as worthy of atrial run and the awarding of  a prize to Alan.

  Now i cant remember how long they have been running but they have been very successful and so successful that

  they now form part of the Jackpot promo.

  Obviously the pricing of tournies, rake charged, schedules etc are all within Sky's remit and they are entitled to alter

 or amend these as they see fit, they are after all a business.

  However, the thing that annoys people is the way they have gone about this and other changes. WHY ask for feedback

  on the forum, listen to the views of the customer, announce a trial (the results of which have not been published) and

  then just implement the changes with no announcement.

  Pretty poor IMO.

jonjo75

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In Response to Re: MINI EVENTS : No jonjo responsible gambling means playing within your bankroll. There are lots of players with a smaller BR who played the Minis, me included. But to have the funds to play Minis regularly now would require a BR increase of 66% I believe someone said. It is encouraging some players to play at a level that they may not realistically be able to afford.
Posted by FlyingDagg

Agreed. I would love to play the £100 5k BH and roller everytime they are on but I can not so I try and sat in. Sometimes I make it, sometimes I dont and occasionally I do buy in but I dont blame SKY for having them and tempting me.
If they do not have sats into the mini make your own by playing a £3 sng or any variation you like.
I have put on the forum before that the mini should be 10% of the main buy in and I still think this

FlyingDagg

The responsible gaming angle was never meant to be the major point of my arguement but it does have some bearing on what Sky have done. My main beef is the way Sky went about it. to implement a "Trial Run" after a mere handful of votes then increase the price anyway with no announcement only makes me believe that the trial was a ruse and they had every intention of increasing the price anyway. If they had gone with the 10% thing I couldn't have complained at that and would then play the ones I could afford. That would seem to be the fairest decision of them all. Instead Sky have taken this route and a lot of people feel very hard done by.
By the way Dohhhhhhh I agree there are still other games but the reasonable price of the Mini was a bridge between the small and medium stake players. It was the only chance for the likes of me to share a tourney with Yoyo, MrBurns, Scotty77 etc., knowing I had to play to my best to get a cash. (notwithstanding Sats of course).

pomfrittes

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In Response to Re: MINI EVENTS : Agreed. I would love to play the £100 5k BH and roller everytime they are on but I can not so I try and sat in. Sometimes I make it, sometimes I dont and occasionally I do buy in but I dont blame SKY for having them and tempting me. If they do not have sats into the mini make your own by playing a £3 sng or any variation you like. I have put on the forum before that the mini should be 10% of the main buy in and I still think this
Posted by jonjo75

  The whole point of the thread. It was but now it is a standard £5.50 every night

belsibub

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There's always higer buy in games there to tempt people, no matter what level they are rolled to play at. That argument doesn't carry much weight imo.  It's not like there's a shortage of low stakes games, there's loads. Much more micro games than medium-high anyway. Run better micro bankrolls I think a 50p buy in, £100gtd comp wud be good, maybe another £1 100gtd at about 9pm.  Don't know much about the freeroll schedule, other than they allow rebuys (lololol) but there must be a couple a night? It's not like micro players can't get a game. 
Posted by DOHHHHHHH

During the prime evening hours 7-11pm how many under £5.50(which is what this is about imo) mtt's are there?
Excluding roulette and 15min donk athon timed tournies there can be an hour or more between games.
Where as mid to high buy-in games run 2-3 an hour. 

DOHHHHHHH

When I play on here on an evening I play 6 tournaments between 7-50 and 9-50.

3x £3.30, 2x £2.20 and 1x £5.50. 

MAXALLY

The thread title is MINI EVENTS.

Lets not go off in tangents discussing other stuff like different tournaments etc etc etc.

Tikay10

Good morning all.

I just need to clear my overnight "to-do" list, then I'll reply to this thread.

Bear with me please.

Tikay10

Hi again.

Let me first deal with pure facts, then I'll try & reply to a few of the questions & comments.

More follows..... 

Tikay10

The schedules change all the time, nothing is ever cast in stone, this is quite natural.

Currently, the "Mini" Schedule consists of 5 x £5.50 Buy-Ins, & two x £3.30 Buy-Ins.
 
£5.50's are Every night except Wednesday & Friday, £3.30's are Wednesday & Friday.

So tonight it is £3.30.

There are no current plans that I am aware of to change this in either direction.

They may, or may not, change the scheduling & Buy-Ins in the light of Customer Experience.