Nice work hotwheals, i recognize the name think we may have met in the past probably when i used to play the standard 5s every so often. Sounds like you have made some very decent profit over that 430 game period, like over £200 right? I have been playing alot of hypers lately but the variance is slowly driving me crazy, i wish there was a specific hyper exclusion button so i could just get on with only playing turbos, i plan to stick to turbos just need to really stop myself steaming onto hypers... Do you 1 table the standard 5s then? and do you play the same guys very often? also do you only play the standard 5s or any other structure? Posted by benc
Yes its over £200 now about £240 something like that. I only 1 table as playing more really hurts my game as i lose focus. I only play the standard 5s as my opinion and this is just my opinion dosnt mean its right but i feel the turbos and hypers are a bit crazy where as the standard games maybe slower but i feel i learn a lot more about my game. Its quite a mix of players to be honest normally ranging from average to poor. I also play more in the middle of the night as the standard is normally really poor where as in the afternoons you can get a bit of resistance.
Yeah the turbos and hypers are crazy you are right, i used to only play the standard structure and felt way out of my depth when i played the odd turbo i just thought they were unbeatable and for aggrodonks who cant actually play poker, probably why i ended up playing them permenantly lol it just takes alot of volume to see your skill edge pay off in your results. Good luck in maintaining your form let me know how you have got on when you get to a 1000.
I went on megatilt earlier- long story short in hypers i got it in a number of times absolutely dominating and i think about 7-8 times the river decided it was not too be, soooo as all great degens do i decided it would be a good idea to go and sit at a 6max 20nl table with 200bbs and teach the poker world a lesson in cash (even though i'm awful at cash, even more awful with 200b and i secretly knew i would get owned).
So very early on it comes round to my big blind and i hold the monster that is 97o, folds round to sb he raises to 60p, i instantly decide i'm not gonna get pushed around so hit back with a raise to about £1.80 he calls. flop all spades nothing for me so when he leads out i think "right i'm a great player, im definetly not on tilt lets raise it up with my 79o" he instacalls, then leads out small on the turn to a non spade overcard to the board. "ok thats definetly a card he wont like, plus i'm not losing this hand better raise it up again, plus i could shove the river as thats always a great move in cash and people never call" he instacalls, leads out the river small, "SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE, he will never call i thought, thankfully one part of my brain said, in the words of admiral akbar"it's a trap!" and i folded having steamed off about £14, ahh well may as well load up and win it back... thankfully the poker gods decided to shine down on me, probably as a reward for finding the fold button for around half an hour prior to this hand.. p.s. i had already told myself if he had the 2 i was throwing my laptop out the window.
Yeah the turbos and hypers are crazy you are right, i used to only play the standard structure and felt way out of my depth when i played the odd turbo i just thought they were unbeatable and for aggrodonks who cant actually play poker, probably why i ended up playing them permenantly lol it just takes alot of volume to see your skill edge pay off in your results. Good luck in maintaining your form let me know how you have got on when you get to a 1000. Posted by benc
Yes will keep you informed mate once i get to 500 i will show u a breakdown of how it went by each 100 and u will see its not been all plain sailing. I guess your uni work on psychology is helping out in poker decisions. Im finding that the same as i have a diploma in maths and a degree in Sports Management, which i feel helps me in the the thought process of decisions.
so to summerise i am 292/208 at and average of 58.4 %, and considering u need to be 53% or above to be in profit i feel im doing ok, however i have 500 games to go and if i keep this level up do you feel i should stay at this level for another 1000 games or move up to the £10.50 level. Any guidence from anyone would help a lot. Thanks.
Nice work hotwheals, really good profit for 500 games. I wudn't like to say whether you should stay at that level or not as 1) i havnt played you recently so dont have a personal opinion on your game and 2) i think it's the kind of decision you should make yourself, only you will know if you feel comfortable and confident enough to move up, maybe play the odd £10 game see how you feel then after getting through another 500 make the decision based on how you felt in them games, looks as though your crushing the 5s though so i'm guessing you could hold your own at the 10s, no rush though especially as your winrate is good for the 5s can just continue to build your roll.
Back to the diary, sorry for the lack of updates, last sunday night i decided to exclude myself for 4 days, ended late last night. I was playing way to much, becoming too obsessed with seeing my roll grow and grow and forgetting that it is a hobby i should be enjoying and it got to the point i felt like i was just playing for the sake of it and forgetting the value of money, also got to the point where i was just giving away money on insane tilt, think i had a -80-90 day overall despite winning that cash pot above, just got into the mindset that the world was against me when i lost a few hands in a row. So i feel refreshed now having gone cold turkey for a few days and am going to try only play when i really feel im enjoying and not play just for the sake of it. Planning on going benicassim festival in the summer with some friends so want to make enough to cover that between now and july so that can be my motivation not to chuck money away. At the moment my bankroll is £949.49 and i have £13.50 in c4p. I will update at the end of the day probably play HU at points throughout the day, then maybe some cash and tourny this evening.
Finished for the day would normally hang around on a friday night and hope to run good against some of the drunkards but i'm tired so probably wudn't be playing my A game. Today went really well, for some reason whenever i have a break i always come back and seem to do well, not sure if it is a psychological thing maybe related to being refreshed mentally, hard to believe it's just coincidence but i guess poker is a strange game. so i played a mixture of turbos and mix in a couple of standard structure 5.25s earlier on in the day then had a break for a while came back played the sit n go i said about above with a couple of friends and some randoms, managed to take that down, would only play them when some friends are on and i can chat as find them a little boring these days. Then later on i played the mini bh busted very early taking a stupid gamble, and then played some more HU and eventually ended up playing a few standard structure 10.50s which was good went on a 5 in a row streak before losing the last one before i stopped for the evening which is always nice. Also sat at a 10-20 mastercash 6max table for half hour and made £12, again was only doing that as a mate was on and i enjoy being able to have some chat and play for a bit. Forgot to mention earliers update was after i had played a few games, my bankroll was around 927 when my exclusion ended and is now above 1k so i'm really happy. Going to try and play a few more 10.50 standard HU as i enjoy the low variance factor and when im playing patiently can easily grind down the average player in them, i think the biggest positive was being able to avoid the hypers and supersonics today really dont want to be touching them anymore.
so overall including the 3 games from 2am i ended the day up +£93.61 - and i think i regained my little silver star on scope although only scraping in but still nice to have it there always a nice confidence booster. Current Bankroll: £1021,40 C4P: £15.17
Right so my thinking in this hand is alot of people like to flat the flop with trips in this spot so if i raise i make my hand look more like a pair of 5s+ not sure if i was overthinking the situation, but if any cash players care to share an opinion... , should i be leading out on the flop or is the checkraise ok, am i better of check flatting the flop, did i squeeze enough value out of the hand or not enough, what is my bet sizing like, bigger on the turn so i can get a bigger bet on the river?
Well as always i ended up doing completly the opposite of what i said i would, am absolutely knackered. After sitting around i cudnt resist playing one more 10.50 standard structure game, when i won i decided i would keep playing untill i lost one. Ended up winning 6 in a row for a nice extra £57 profit for the evening, had sat at a table wanting to prolong my streak but noone signed up in like 10 minutes so decided to leave it at that, probably best could of ended up being a long evening/morning.
Thanks Paul, going to treat myself to some cash this afternoon, two tabling 20nl 6max mastercash for a bit so anyone looking for some easy money head over lol hopefully it wont be disastrous.
A general summary for the day, the mastercash session didnt last long made a tiny profit on both tables but got bored very quickly. Played hubhshuffle took one head against a good player after winning a flip, then typically the next player i come up against who potted every single flop stacks of with middle pair against top pair and turns trips lol played my brother a couple of times in 55p HU we both won one each then i played the small stakes £2.30 bh as he was playing it and after an early double up got impatient ended up stacking off with 103o pre was already preparing apologies in chatbox if i donked. Heads up i was down a decent amount at one point maybe like 40 but went on a good run when i decided 4 tabling HU turbos would be a bit of fun for a little while. I'm well aware that playing more than 1-2 tables is sacrificing alot of my edge against competent players, but the av player at that level can be beaten by pure abc and instincts so i'm not too worried about playing alot of tables at once and i like to test myself sometimes jsut to see if i can do it. I have been debating a withdrawal but have decided i will just leave it be and play the odd standard structure games at 15 and 21 when i feel i'm playing well, just so i can test myself against better players and see if i can hold my own, plus whats the point of having built a roll if i'm not going to play some bigger games every so often. Most importantly at no point today did i feel like i wasn't enjoying myself. Total for the day was +£5.54.
Hi Benc, Been following this diary with great interest as im thinking of trying my hand at HU Turbo's myself. Just got a few questions I would like to ask and hopefully you or anyone else can point me in the right direction.
1, Looking to start at the £1.10 Turbo's, what kind of BRM should I be looking at for this level? would 50 BI be enough?
2, What is the standard of play like at the low limits and do the games fill up quite quickly?
3, What would be a good ROI at theese leves?
4, Is there any videos or websites you can recommend for study? Read somewhere that you have loads of PDF's would you be willing to share any of this info.
Sorry for the long list!! any advice or pointers would be gratefully recieved.
1) Yes 50bi is a good starting point i would think as it is very easy to lose 5-10bi quickly without doing much wrong, when i didn't know alot about brm i was playing with 10bi and withdrawing whenever i made 3bi and i realise now that i would of gone bust so many times if i carried on that way.
2) I'm not entirely sure what the standard of play is like lower down, earlier in the diary i played some £1 games and flew through them, then in the £2 games i got stuck but that was a very small sample and i was lacking in confidence at that time, but i would say at the £1 level having a solid default hand range pre, being aware of the importance of position and knowing how wide you should be shoving pre in the latter stages with higher blinds will serve you well.
3) I asked this at the beggining of the diary and Lambert said 6-8% would be very good, however if you are just starting out and needing to learn i wudn't worry too much atm just having a positive roi will be great whilst you get some experience of playing.
4) I do have some pdfs i would happily share, i think i would of have to send them to your email address in a zip folder ( if you pm me we can sort that out) - also im always more than willing to discuss some more in-depth ways of approaching the game at the lower stakes via pm.
Hi moon, 1) Yes 50bi is a good starting point i would think as it is very easy to lose 5-10bi quickly without doing much wrong, when i didn't know alot about brm i was playing with 10bi and withdrawing whenever i made 3bi and i realise now that i would of gone bust so many times if i carried on that way. 2) I'm not entirely sure what the standard of play is like lower down, earlier in the diary i played some £1 games and flew through them, then in the £2 games i got stuck but that was a very small sample and i was lacking in confidence at that time, but i would say at the £1 level having a solid default hand range pre, being aware of the importance of position and knowing how wide you should be shoving pre in the latter stages with higher blinds will serve you well. 3) I asked this at the beggining of the diary and Lambert said 6-8% would be very good, however if you are just starting out and needing to learn i wudn't worry too much atm just having a positive roi will be great whilst you get some experience of playing. 4) I do have some pdfs i would happily share, i think i would of have to send them to your email address in a zip folder ( if you pm me we can sort that out) - also im always more than willing to discuss some more in-depth ways of approaching the game at the lower stakes via pm. Hope that helps. Posted by benc
Cheers mate much obliged for the response. Have sent you a PM
Quick update, played the 5k freeroll and got on tv which was a novelty for me as i dont get to watch the show much. soon busted that when i lost a couple of flips though, then i busted the mini primo with a flush against a full house. Played the £11 bounty hunter had a good stack and won a few bounties but ended up going out with top pair and a flush draw on the turn to a slowplayed AA, still made £9 so not all bad, just felt i was on for a good run in that. Also played mastercash for an hour and made pennies was trying to play alot of hands and get some action going but didnt really have many pots of note to talk about. Hu was an ok day won a 15.75 earlier in a standard game stupidly signed up without realising it was pot limit(didnt even realise there were pot limit hu tables) so that was a strange experience which i didnt particularly enjoy but still i won it and it wasn't difficult at all to adjust.
I wasn't planning on updating untill the end of the week as obviously there is not much to talk about when im just playing the odd few hu games a day, however i played the mini tonight and final tabled albeit only for 1 hand lol, shoved 8s into a utg open and they called with q10o won my fair share of flips so cant complain. I won £78.55, and i think it shows how far i have come in a few months as before i would of been so happy and pumped with adrenalin for the evening at final tabling and cashing for plus +£50 but i was kind of dissapointed in all honesty, i have changed my mindset in playing tournys over the last few months, i really do gear myself up to go for the win so anything other than that is always going to be a little dissapointing. Still in the few mtts i've played during this diary ive had some nice runs and some decent money to boost my bankroll, i think i have final tabled 4-5 out of quite a small sample so i'm glad i seem to be doing things right in mtts. I realised earlier it has been a month now of this diary, it feels like much longer have gone from being ultra confident about my game, to questioning whether i'm even good enough to beat the game and back again with everything in between. I hope these insights in such a short space of time highlight the importance of long term thinking in poker and understanding that to do well your going to encounter just as many lows as you will highs.
So with some small winnings from a few heads up games and the cash in the mini my total for since i last updated is +£95.50
Back to reality just lost £16.80 sitting a 10nl hu table, not quite sure how kept reloading to max getting rivered, reloading to max getting rivered was still quite fun though, was tempted to climb up and play higher hu cash but that would be stupid so thought id come write on here rather than steam off some more money lol decided to just chill out for bit and play the freeroll later and maybe something fun whilst im watching the manu game. Also lost a 15.75 earlier after grinding a good reg who used to own me down to like 300 but cudnt win my 60/40s to finish him off, got some good notes though and it's a boost in confidence to know i can mix it up with him these days.
So even though i have barely played, total for today so far: -£33.85
I will update with bankroll and c4p at end of the evening
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So very early on it comes round to my big blind and i hold the monster that is 97o, folds round to sb he raises to 60p, i instantly decide i'm not gonna get pushed around so hit back with a raise to about £1.80 he calls. flop all spades nothing for me so when he leads out i think "right i'm a great player, im definetly not on tilt lets raise it up with my 79o" he instacalls, then leads out small on the turn to a non spade overcard to the board. "ok thats definetly a card he wont like, plus i'm not losing this hand better raise it up again, plus i could shove the river as thats always a great move in cash and people never call" he instacalls, leads out the river small, "SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE SHOVE, he will never call i thought, thankfully one part of my brain said, in the words of admiral akbar"it's a trap!" and i folded having steamed off about £14, ahh well may as well load up and win it back... thankfully the poker gods decided to shine down on me, probably as a reward for finding the fold button for around half an hour prior to this hand.. p.s. i had already told myself if he had the 2 i was throwing my laptop out the window.
Back to the diary, sorry for the lack of updates, last sunday night i decided to exclude myself for 4 days, ended late last night. I was playing way to much, becoming too obsessed with seeing my roll grow and grow and forgetting that it is a hobby i should be enjoying and it got to the point i felt like i was just playing for the sake of it and forgetting the value of money, also got to the point where i was just giving away money on insane tilt, think i had a -80-90 day overall despite winning that cash pot above, just got into the mindset that the world was against me when i lost a few hands in a row. So i feel refreshed now having gone cold turkey for a few days and am going to try only play when i really feel im enjoying and not play just for the sake of it. Planning on going benicassim festival in the summer with some friends so want to make enough to cover that between now and july so that can be my motivation not to chuck money away. At the moment my bankroll is £949.49 and i have £13.50 in c4p. I will update at the end of the day probably play HU at points throughout the day, then maybe some cash and tourny this evening.
so overall including the 3 games from 2am i ended the day up +£93.61 - and i think i regained my little silver star on scope although only scraping in but still nice to have it there always a nice confidence booster.
Current Bankroll: £1021,40 C4P: £15.17
Bankroll: £1078.40 C4P:£15.47
Paul
Current Bankroll: £1083,94 C4P: £17.83
Been following this diary with great interest as im thinking of trying my hand at HU Turbo's myself. Just got a few questions I would like to ask and hopefully you or anyone else can point me in the right direction.
1, Looking to start at the £1.10 Turbo's, what kind of BRM should I be looking at for this level? would 50 BI be enough?
2, What is the standard of play like at the low limits and do the games fill up quite quickly?
3, What would be a good ROI at theese leves?
4, Is there any videos or websites you can recommend for study? Read somewhere that you have loads of PDF's would you be willing to share any of this info.
Sorry for the long list!! any advice or pointers would be gratefully recieved.
Moon
1) Yes 50bi is a good starting point i would think as it is very easy to lose 5-10bi quickly without doing much wrong, when i didn't know alot about brm i was playing with 10bi and withdrawing whenever i made 3bi and i realise now that i would of gone bust so many times if i carried on that way.
2) I'm not entirely sure what the standard of play is like lower down, earlier in the diary i played some £1 games and flew through them, then in the £2 games i got stuck but that was a very small sample and i was lacking in confidence at that time, but i would say at the £1 level having a solid default hand range pre, being aware of the importance of position and knowing how wide you should be shoving pre in the latter stages with higher blinds will serve you well.
3) I asked this at the beggining of the diary and Lambert said 6-8% would be very good, however if you are just starting out and needing to learn i wudn't worry too much atm just having a positive roi will be great whilst you get some experience of playing.
4) I do have some pdfs i would happily share, i think i would of have to send them to your email address in a zip folder ( if you pm me we can sort that out) - also im always more than willing to discuss some more in-depth ways of approaching the game at the lower stakes via pm.
Hope that helps.
total for the day: +£30.47
Current Bankroll: £1114.41 C4P: £19.40
So with some small winnings from a few heads up games and the cash in the mini my total for since i last updated is +£95.50
Current Bankroll: £1209.91 C4P: £25.42
So even though i have barely played, total for today so far: -£33.85
I will update with bankroll and c4p at end of the evening