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  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    168 more migrants fleeing poverty arrive in UK after Channel crossing despite No10 vow




    A hundred and sixty-eight migrants crossing the Channel reached the UK on Monday in 12 boats, according to reports.

    BBC reporter Simon Jones said the Home Office confirmed the figures yesterday, adding French border authorities "prevented seven crossings involving 54 people".

    It comes after figures showed more than 6,100 asylum seekers have successfully crossed to the UK in small boats since the beginning of 2020.

    This is despite Home Secretary Priti Patel's vow to make the route "unviable", and the continued row between the Home Office and the legal profession on how to tackle the crossings.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/168-more-migrants-fleeing-poverty-arrive-in-uk-after-channel-crossing-despite-no10-vow/ar-BB192LyN?ocid=msedgntp
  • lucy4lucy4 Member Posts: 8,122
    edited September 2020
    This tragic event occurred in my local area and it's not an isolated incident,this only got worldwide coverage due to the number of deaths involved.The court cases in U.K. are still ongoing but the cases in Vietnam have been concluded.My question is how the **** can those sentences handed out in Vietnam possibly discourage other persons/gangs from continuing this trade? Especially when one of the victims parents has the attitude of 'He knew what he was doing'




  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    lucy4 said:

    This tragic event occurred in my local area and it's not an isolated incident,this only got worldwide coverage due to the number of deaths involved.The court cases in U.K. are still ongoing but the cases in Vietnam have been concluded.My question is how the **** can those sentences handed out in Vietnam possibly discourage other persons/gangs from continuing this trade? Especially when one of the victims parents has the attitude of 'He knew what he was doing'




    I dont know enough about this story, but I suppose that it may be difficult to attach real blame to these people for a horrible accident that occurred some years after the victims left Vietnam, at the other end of the world.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    MPs blast Home Office over number of illegal migrants in the country




    The civil servants who enforce immigration rules have no idea how many illegal migrants are living in Britain, MPs said yesterday.

    The Home Office has not assessed the total number living here without permission for 15 years – a period in which there has been an unprecedented influx.

    It has no grasp of the damage done by illegal immigration or of the criminals associated with it, and it has only a ‘disturbingly weak’ understanding of the effects of its own efforts to stop illegal immigration or deport people with no right to be in the country, MPs said.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/mps-blast-home-office-over-number-of-illegal-migrants-in-the-country/ar-BB199S6s?ocid=msedgdhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    Home Office’s £400m immigration unit bases policies on ‘assumptions and prejudice’, MPs warn




    The Home Office appears to be formulating its immigration policies on “anecdote, assumption and prejudice” rather than evidence, MPs have warned.

    In a damning report that calls for a “transformation” of the department’s approach to immigration enforcement, the Public Accounts Committee said the Home Office was relying on a “disturbingly weak” evidence base to assess the impact of the £400m it spends on the policy.
    It also found that a “significant lack of diversity” at senior levels in the department, had created organisational “blind spots”, with the Windrush scandal a damning indictment of “the damage such a culture creates".

    “The Home Office has frighteningly little grasp of the impact of its activities in managing immigration. It shows no inclination to learn from its numerous mistakes across a swathe of immigration activities — even when it fully accepts that it has made serious errors,” she said.

    The findings come after a report by the Institute for Public Policy Research (IPPR) earlier this month found that the government’s hostile environment policies were fostering racist practices across British society and pushing people, including those with legal status, into poverty.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/home-office-s-400m-immigration-unit-bases-policies-on-assumptions-and-prejudice-mps-warn/ar-BB199Umb?ocid=msedgdhp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    Priti Patel 'looked at sending asylum seekers more than 4,000 miles to Napoleon exile island in the South Atlantic while their cases were considered'



    Under an extraordinary scheme, the Home Office would ship migrants 4,000 miles from the UK to Ascension Island (pictured inset), a British overseas protectorate. Ms Patel (left, pictured at the FCO last week) abandoned the plan after instructing her officials to drill down into the practicalities and costs of such a project. St Helena, where Napoleon was exiled after his defeat at the Battle of Waterloo, was also touted as a potential site for the processing facility

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8787455/Priti-Patel-looked-sending-asylum-seekers-tiny-volcanic-islands.html
  • madprofmadprof Member Posts: 3,461
    Priti Patel

    'This is the kinda woman who will unplug your life support machine to charge her mobile phone....'



  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    madprof said:

    Priti Patel

    'This is the kinda woman who will unplug your life support machine to charge her mobile phone....'

    She would.
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452



    As the Times reveals that ministers are considering converting old ferries into "floating asylum centres", the Guardian leads on another option to deter migrants from crossing the English Channel from France. This proposal could apparently involve sending asylum seekers to Moldova, Morocco or Papua New Guinea.
    The Financial Times understands another idea that was discussed was to deploy vessels capable of generating large waves that would force small boats back into French waters.
    In one of its leading articles, the Times acknowledges the "legal, moral and logistical" difficulties of potential solutions being discussed - but says it's "unreasonable to castigate the Home Office for exploring" them as the present situation is not sustainable.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-54365948
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    Revealed: No 10 explores sending asylum seekers to Moldova, Morocco and Papua New Guinea


    The documents suggest officials in the Foreign Office have been pushing back against Number 10’s proposals to process asylum applications in detention facilities overseas, which have also included the suggestion the centres could be constructed on the south Atlantic islands of Ascension and St Helena.

    The documents, marked “official” and “sensitive” and produced earlier this month, summarise advice from officials at the Foreign Office, which was asked by Downing Street to “offer advice on possible options for negotiating an offshore asylum processing facility similar to the Australian model in Papua New Guinea and Nauru”.

    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/revealed-no-10-explores-sending-asylum-seekers-to-moldova-morocco-and-papua-new-guinea/ar-BB19zXu3?ocid=msedgntp
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    The Times says allies of Home Secretary Priti Patel are accusing the Foreign Office of being "at war" with the minister over her plans to deal with asylum seekers. According to the paper. they allege that officials have leaked "bizarre and unworkable" policies in order to discredit her. These are said to include artificially creating waves to push back boats in the Channel and fouling their propellers with chains. The Times reports that Foreign Office sources have dismissed the claims.
    The front of the Financial Times has the headline: "Floating walls in Channel considered in latest plan to block asylum seekers". The paper says it has seen a leaked document from trade body Maritime UK, which it suggests was asked by the Home Office to look at the possibility of erecting temporary underwater fencing "in one of the world's busiest shipping lanes". The FT says it's been told by Marine UK that it didn't think the plan was "legally possible".

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-54381208
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
    Migrant flight farce: Specially chartered plane carries just ONE failed asylum seeker out of UK instead of 30 after last-minute legal challenge blocks the other removals



    A plane chartered by the Home Office flew a single Channel migrant out of the country yesterday - after last-minute legal challenges blocked 29 other removals. The flight to France went ahead because the aircraft had already been paid for by the British taxpayer. Lawyers for dozens of migrants who were due to be returned waited until the final possible moment to lodge appeals which would prevent them being put aboard the aircraft, Home Office sources said. In 18 cases they lodged claims under human rights laws. Six further cases involved, for the first time, allegations of modern slavery. This requires the Home Office to carry out further research and delays their removal. The flight, from an unnamed airport, is believed to have cost at least £100,000.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
  • HAYSIEHAYSIE Member Posts: 36,452
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