Matt please, please, write, your HONEST opinion on this. Sun evening, played and exited, one mtt, couldn't be bothered, after this. Your Opinion, be as Brutal, as you wish 😉
My pocket cards, AJ raise 6 bigs, pre Called, by 3 Q Flop J73 rainbow I raise 560 snap called Me, top pair JJ top kicker A no flushes around. Turn 5d 690 bet snap called My hand Ad Js board Jc 7d 3h 5d opponents 3s Qs Me, top pair top kicker, Oppo bottom pair 33 Q kicker NOT FOLDING TOO ANYTHING... are they Phsycic? river Q
And before, anyone says anything, I was calling at the end, to share this!
Paul, you are doing it again, cherry picking hands. Stop looking at what (you think) others are doing wrong & focus on plugging the leaks in your own game. That's your best way forward & is the only way you are going to eradicate these leaks you have.
Why have you decided 6x was a good open size? You decided to limp 88 on the button in another hand? Why did you feel this was good? If you feel your opponent is not folding to anything. Why didn't you raise larger on the flop, why didn't you go all in on the turn?
Getting fixated by opponents mistakes doesn't help us improve. We want to play our hands as optimally as possible with the information we have. You should see a lot of mistakes by opponents which is great as this should be why we make money.
The AJ hand, just look back on it yourself. You put in 1370 chips when ahead then called off your last 3105, more than twice as much, when behind. Overall you put in over 200 bb with one pair, and by the river it wasn't even top pair!
OK your opponent didn't play it well and got lucky, but surely his shove on the river rang warning bells? He turned up with 2 pair but was much more likely to have a flopped set IMO.
Are you calling off there knowing you're behind but just wanting to prove to yourself how unlucky you are? I'm sure we've all done that, I know I have. Maybe the right thing to do is to fold and think to yourself 'yea, I was good enough to get away from that, well played me.'
The villain in the AJ hand has been playing the same way for the past few years and basically broadcasts to the world what hand he has with the sizings he uses. Both of you play a lot of 1rs - surely you've got notes on him by now?
Well ladies and Gents.. Form an orderly queue And tell me, its 'the way I play Poker'.. and not summit else. What reasonable Conclusion, would you like me to to reach?
Complete unwillingness to learn is a very rare thing.
- Do you know what a range is? - Do you understand equity?
The result of individual hands is 100% irrelevant except to help understand opponents better and improve your own game. Play the AK hand above 10000 times and you'll win exactly your fair share.
Not entirely sure what you want these threads to prove.
Is it
a) you are a good player and just very unlucky? b) Sky poker is rigged against you?
As people have said, poker is constantly evolving, I've had my mind blown by concepts I didn't grasp properly at least three times this year. I know of many more theoretical things that I don't really understand and need to put the work in on. I've learned from dozens of people and the key to playing good poker is being open-minded and understanding that there is always another level.
You are trapped on the ground floor and what is worse you don't really want to leave.
Maxxally If, as stated, you think calling an all in, that holds 10% hand Equity, when my 90% hand equity good, words fail me mate! But, hold your breath, watch this one coming up.
Maxxally If, as stated, you think calling an all in, that holds 10% hand Equity, when my 90% hand equity good, words fail me mate! But, hold your breath, watch this one coming up.
Not going down the rabbit hole of trying to reason with you, but....
HOW DOES HE KNOW HE ONLY HAS 10% EQUITY????
Look at it another way.....would YOU fold with his hand? I doubt it very much, and I doubt it even further if you would have posted it if the flip was the other way round.
Mate, neither am I getting into it, with you, save for You and I can play coin flipping, we can bet £20 a spin for however many, minimum 100 I will hold nine coins in my hand, you hold one coin in your hand And you can call, heads or tails, you call it every time (not me) either you win, I win, or we split every spin We are 'betting even money, as you say, just flipping' You spin up your one coin, I will spin up my nine coins, as we are just flipping Tell you what, Bet of a lifetime for you, I will lay you 5-2,per spin to a score, £20 that must be the best value punt, ever in life based on your maths!
Tony K mate, be at my seat, look at my cards, look at the deal,if roles reversed, I know, you wouldn't stay silent Matt Bates,.. Do you stand by 'its the way I play Poker?'
Freindly Challenge....
Come back, in front of your Forum Fans (Inc me, I am and have been always) And tell the Forum, its the way I play Poker
12.05 1st hand after rest break, only mtt played 2 hours deep To be away, and gone.
You already worked out, what's coming, if Full Flush Luke S, or Hellmuth, be an eruption of epic proportions, yet, because its me, supposed to stay Mute.. Its sick. I am expected, to say nothing, this hand immediately followed, by my exit hand, with pocket JJ, but its just the way I play Poker
........but as many people know, I have also got LUCKY when I've got it in BAD. That's POKER Just move on to the next Tourney. Remember you will have WON hands from behind too. Post some of those for a change
As we all know If you keep getting it in Ahead, you will WIN in the Long Run. Take on board what all the very good players are telling you, and if you can't ......concentrate on your Horses to Follow thread, thats much more fun reading
Hi Paul You limp with K3 off suit 😳 Then call a shove on a flushy, straighty board and are questioning how come you didn’t win. I would be questioning how on earth I managed to chop.
Every single one of us, playing here, reading here, would be categorised in some form, as 'a gambler' of some type. At the very least, a, prerequisite is some understanding, off odds maths and chance. Myself, my understanding of odds and chance comes from, bookmaking-betting. It took me, from 14 years old, until 21 years old, to have a full understanding, of odds, maths, chance, learning tic tac (taught by Alan) at Catford dogs, and Peter, who managed an independent across the road from the now defunct King & Queen Pub SE9, and was, an on course dog tic tac man, in the evening. A throw back, to show my age! Kid you not, the King and Queen, was but one of a few, huge naughty Pubs, that were 'magnets' for South London naughty boys, Inc a swanky 'strip club' on the side, this was 1970...! (I was 5!) when first 'sneaked in there with the old man' I lived with the King & Queen on my doorstep, gpc70 remembers this pub, his pals got hold of another mirror image pub, Mottingham-Chislehurst Borders The White Horse, ask Gpc to tell you, the very humerus post code anecdote, about that spit and saw dust boozer, that morphed into a swanky wine bar, Chislehurst 'new money' Gpc defo knows the coup!
If any of you, ever had a stag do in London, you might have experienced Brownes Shoreditch? minimum monies in your sky rocket for a night in Brownies, a carpet, 3-1,£300, and no change left.The King and Queen was the Brownes of the 70s & 80s in S. London. (some education!) Well, that King and Queen, which shaped my youth, as did gpc70s White Horse, socialised in both, 5! - 20 years old, non of us choose our childhood, or up bringing, is what it is, me, scrapped school, after 13 years old, but, maths (because of betting & gambling) was my thing.
I remember, when finding out, every single price, 11-8 6-4 5-2 etc is simply a maths % and you make a 'book' to 100% for yourself,or if bookmaking, anything the punters will stand, 150% + learned, and once! was a red hot settler, manually, whether clerking on course, or settling a thick wad (1000) plus 1p perm Yankees, reverse stakes about, any too come, the very worse one I remember, 1/2 p perm each way Goliath ( 8 selections) perming two per race, with the each way aspect settled race on race equally divided. Throw in a, dead heat, two rule 4s,a settlers nightmare (manually!) A naughty story! Any bookmaker, would know what an OTT machine was, in the 70s and 80s,cutting edge, settling tech, and a good few lbo managers, relied on that, having never done a settling course, or worked on course, pricing up a bet, or clerking. A very well kept, trade secret, went on for years, the OTT machines, had one specific built in deliberate error, put into them by a dodgy coder, through the card on two dog meetings (standard 8 or 10 races), so, say reverse forecast doubles, ttc, but permed, ie, 3,4,2,6,2,2,3,3,4,4,2,3,2,3,6,4,4,2,2,2. Stake that for 2p doubles, comes to a monumental stake, the glitch in the OTT machine, left off several zeros, ie, true stake, say £844,bet accepted as £84, and any returns paid to the fictitious full stake, never happen now, but that, and a right few others, went on for years.Ever been to Tenerife Los Christianos on holiday? If you were a Punter, Off Shore Racing over looking the marina, full sis!!! Ras codes, full bar, not licensed!!! huge turnover, might have been me, taking settling your bets! Real Gents.
The real Factotum, TK, has oft declared he has seen every dodgy move, and then some over years, and years, and I totally believe TK, I have posted a few, that I dare tell, and a good few, I can't, or won't, but the dodgy weighing room scales, is one my favorites. So, like it or not, I possess an 'enquiring mind'
There is a point, and I would like to share it.
First of all, screen grab of my Sharky, not, Not cherry picking selective. 3 mtts, 2 last night, 1 this morning.
Stick with me all... So, I played 1 mtt, a £5.50 bounty hunter, yes, indeed, another horror river bad beat, this time attached a bell and Whistle. Bad Beat first, then the Intrigue.
But, I add, further to my intrigue, the previous two £5.50 bounty hunters, both cancelled, no players around! reason I can state that, I registered both, both cancelled, here you go, and 'miracle' a player, who prior had played 9 mtts, in A YEAR, rocks up in the 06.00 £5.50, and 'runs' exceedingly very well!
Final table, yep, 3 left, yep, I go heads up, 2 way all in, against the slightly shorter stack, who has taken numerous bounties, if I win the hand, plenty bounties for me, and heads up, with a chance (a million I know!) but a chance, to win God forbid, a tourney.
Actually, I will do it, in reverse order, and, I ask, each and every one of you, to price up, this WIN DOUBLE, as a bookmaker.
'player' that beats me, in this hand, has played, in ONE FULL YEAR a grand total of 9 tournaments, and just happens to play only their TENTH EVER mtt, in a YEAR, at 6 a.m on a Tuesday morning, in a £5.50 bounty hunter,strange that! I go further, if everyone else, does not find that, this, 'strange' then not being Honest, with themselves. 😉 Price that up, alone, then add, rivers misterpjs 87% hand equity cracking my all in pocket 10s. I am, erm, sceptical
Short Summary Tuesday March 9th 05.00 am £5.50 bounty hunter cancelled, not min 4 players 05.30 am £5.50 bounty hunter cancelled, not min 4 players I know that, regged both, refunded both. 06.00 am £5.50 bounty hunter a player, that joined Skypoker on 26th March 2020,and played 9 mtts in 24 hours, and zero play, at all, since 27th March 2020,shows up, for the very first time, in nearly a YEAR in a 06.00 am £5.50 bounty hunter, final tables, 3 left, and runs like... Anyone feel, that's worthy enough? of a question being asked, because I certainly do feel, a question or two, should be asked.
Comments
please, please, write, your HONEST opinion on this.
Sun evening, played and exited, one mtt, couldn't be bothered, after this.
Your Opinion, be as Brutal, as you wish 😉
My pocket cards, AJ raise 6 bigs, pre
Called, by 3 Q
Flop J73 rainbow
I raise 560 snap called
Me, top pair JJ top kicker A no flushes around.
Turn 5d
690 bet snap called
My hand Ad Js board Jc 7d 3h 5d opponents 3s Qs
Me, top pair top kicker, Oppo bottom pair 33 Q kicker
NOT FOLDING TOO ANYTHING... are they Phsycic? river Q
And before, anyone says anything, I was calling at the end, to share this!
Leave the cherry pickers to building sites.
You decided to limp 88 on the button in another hand? Why did you feel this was good?
If you feel your opponent is not folding to anything. Why didn't you raise larger on the flop, why didn't you go all in on the turn?
Getting fixated by opponents mistakes doesn't help us improve. We want to play our hands as optimally as possible with the information we have. You should see a lot of mistakes by opponents which is great as this should be why we make money.
OK your opponent didn't play it well and got lucky, but surely his shove on the river rang warning bells? He turned up with 2 pair but was much more likely to have a flopped set IMO.
Are you calling off there knowing you're behind but just wanting to prove to yourself how unlucky you are? I'm sure we've all done that, I know I have. Maybe the right thing to do is to fold and think to yourself 'yea, I was good enough to get away from that, well played me.'
Form an orderly queue
And tell me, its 'the way I play Poker'.. and not summit else.
What reasonable Conclusion, would you like me to to reach?
Ps, to go a mile clear, chip leader.
- Do you know what a range is?
- Do you understand equity?
The result of individual hands is 100% irrelevant except to help understand opponents better and improve your own game. Play the AK hand above 10000 times and you'll win exactly your fair share.
Not entirely sure what you want these threads to prove.
Is it
a) you are a good player and just very unlucky?
b) Sky poker is rigged against you?
As people have said, poker is constantly evolving, I've had my mind blown by concepts I didn't grasp properly at least three times this year. I know of many more theoretical things that I don't really understand and need to put the work in on. I've learned from dozens of people and the key to playing good poker is being open-minded and understanding that there is always another level.
You are trapped on the ground floor and what is worse you don't really want to leave.
You lost a flip. Standard.
I think I prefer reading Haysie's posts
If, as stated, you think calling an all in, that holds 10% hand Equity, when my 90% hand equity good, words fail me mate! But, hold your breath, watch this one coming up.
HOW DOES HE KNOW HE ONLY HAS 10% EQUITY????
Look at it another way.....would YOU fold with his hand? I doubt it very much, and I doubt it even further if you would have posted it if the flip was the other way round.
You and I can play coin flipping, we can bet £20 a spin for however many, minimum 100
I will hold nine coins in my hand, you hold one coin in your hand
And you can call, heads or tails, you call it every time (not me) either you win, I win, or we split every spin
We are 'betting even money, as you say, just flipping'
You spin up your one coin, I will spin up my nine coins, as we are just flipping
Tell you what, Bet of a lifetime for you, I will lay you 5-2,per spin to a score, £20 that must be the best value punt, ever in life based on your maths!
Tony K
mate, be at my seat, look at my cards, look at the deal,if roles reversed, I know, you wouldn't stay silent
Matt Bates,.. Do you stand by 'its the way I play Poker?'
Freindly Challenge....
Come back, in front of your Forum Fans (Inc me, I am and have been always)
And tell the Forum, its the way I play Poker
12.05
1st hand after rest break, only mtt played 2 hours deep
To be away, and gone.
You already worked out, what's coming, if Full Flush Luke S, or Hellmuth, be an eruption of epic proportions, yet, because its me, supposed to stay Mute..
Its sick.
I am expected, to say nothing, this hand immediately followed, by my exit hand, with pocket JJ, but its just the way I play Poker
We ALL have bad beats.....
Just move on to the next Tourney. Remember you will have WON hands from behind too. Post some of those for a change
As we all know If you keep getting it in Ahead, you will WIN in the Long Run. Take on board what all the very good players are telling you, and if you can't ......concentrate on your Horses to Follow thread, thats much more fun reading
You limp with K3 off suit 😳
Then call a shove on a flushy, straighty board and are questioning how come you didn’t win.
I would be questioning how on earth I managed to chop.
Please don't tell me you LIMPED with K-3 off?
Ha ha ha ha stick to horse betting at least that is something you appear to know about
Respect To All, especially Tony K
I am not 'doing it again'
I would like to present to the forum, this.
Every single one of us, playing here, reading here, would be categorised in some form, as 'a gambler' of some type.
At the very least, a, prerequisite is some understanding, off odds maths and chance.
Myself, my understanding of odds and chance comes from, bookmaking-betting.
It took me, from 14 years old, until 21 years old, to have a full understanding, of odds, maths, chance, learning tic tac (taught by Alan) at Catford dogs, and Peter, who managed an independent across the road from the now defunct King & Queen Pub SE9, and was, an on course dog tic tac man, in the evening.
A throw back, to show my age! Kid you not, the King and Queen, was but one of a few, huge naughty Pubs, that were 'magnets' for South London naughty boys, Inc a swanky 'strip club' on the side, this was 1970...! (I was 5!) when first 'sneaked in there with the old man'
I lived with the King & Queen on my doorstep, gpc70 remembers this pub, his pals got hold of another mirror image pub, Mottingham-Chislehurst Borders The White Horse, ask Gpc to tell you, the very humerus post code anecdote, about that spit and saw dust boozer, that morphed into a swanky wine bar, Chislehurst 'new money' Gpc defo knows the coup!
If any of you, ever had a stag do in London, you might have experienced Brownes Shoreditch? minimum monies in your sky rocket for a night in Brownies, a carpet, 3-1,£300, and no change left.The King and Queen was the Brownes of the 70s & 80s in S. London. (some education!)
Well, that King and Queen, which shaped my youth, as did gpc70s White Horse, socialised in both, 5! - 20 years old, non of us choose our childhood, or up bringing, is what it is, me, scrapped school, after 13 years old, but, maths (because of betting & gambling) was my thing.
I remember, when finding out, every single price, 11-8 6-4 5-2 etc is simply a maths % and you make a 'book' to 100% for yourself,or if bookmaking, anything the punters will stand, 150% +
learned, and once! was a red hot settler, manually, whether clerking on course, or settling a thick wad (1000) plus 1p perm Yankees, reverse stakes about, any too come, the very worse one I remember, 1/2 p perm each way Goliath ( 8 selections) perming two per race, with the each way aspect settled race on race equally divided. Throw in a, dead heat, two rule 4s,a settlers nightmare (manually!) A naughty story! Any bookmaker, would know what an OTT machine was, in the 70s and 80s,cutting edge, settling tech, and a good few lbo managers, relied on that, having never done a settling course, or worked on course, pricing up a bet, or clerking.
A very well kept, trade secret, went on for years, the OTT machines, had one specific built in deliberate error, put into them by a dodgy coder, through the card on two dog meetings (standard 8 or 10 races), so, say reverse forecast doubles, ttc, but permed, ie, 3,4,2,6,2,2,3,3,4,4,2,3,2,3,6,4,4,2,2,2. Stake that for 2p doubles, comes to a monumental stake, the glitch in the OTT machine, left off several zeros, ie, true stake, say £844,bet accepted as £84, and any returns paid to the fictitious full stake, never happen now, but that, and a right few others, went on for years.Ever been to Tenerife Los Christianos on holiday? If you were a Punter, Off Shore Racing over looking the marina, full sis!!! Ras codes, full bar, not licensed!!! huge turnover, might have been me, taking settling your bets!
Real Gents.
The real Factotum, TK, has oft declared he has seen every dodgy move, and then some over years, and years, and I totally believe TK, I have posted a few, that I dare tell, and a good few, I can't, or won't, but the dodgy weighing room scales, is one my favorites. So, like it or not, I possess an 'enquiring mind'
There is a point, and I would like to share it.
First of all, screen grab of my Sharky, not, Not cherry picking selective. 3 mtts, 2 last night, 1 this morning.
Stick with me all...
So, I played 1 mtt, a £5.50 bounty hunter, yes, indeed, another horror river bad beat, this time attached a bell and Whistle. Bad Beat first, then the Intrigue.
But, I add, further to my intrigue, the previous two £5.50 bounty hunters, both cancelled, no players around! reason I can state that, I registered both, both cancelled, here you go, and 'miracle' a player, who prior had played 9 mtts, in A YEAR, rocks up in the 06.00 £5.50, and 'runs' exceedingly very well!
Final table, yep, 3 left, yep, I go heads up, 2 way all in, against the slightly shorter stack, who has taken numerous bounties, if I win the hand, plenty bounties for me, and heads up, with a chance (a million I know!) but a chance, to win God forbid, a tourney.
Actually, I will do it, in reverse order, and, I ask, each and every one of you, to price up, this WIN DOUBLE, as a bookmaker.
'player' that beats me, in this hand, has played, in ONE FULL YEAR a grand total of 9 tournaments, and just happens to play only their TENTH EVER mtt, in a YEAR, at 6 a.m on a Tuesday morning, in a £5.50 bounty hunter,strange that!
I go further, if everyone else, does not find that, this, 'strange' then not being Honest, with themselves.
😉 Price that up, alone, then add, rivers misterpjs 87% hand equity cracking my all in pocket 10s. I am, erm, sceptical
Tuesday March 9th
05.00 am £5.50 bounty hunter cancelled, not min 4 players
05.30 am £5.50 bounty hunter cancelled, not min 4 players
I know that, regged both, refunded both.
06.00 am £5.50 bounty hunter
a player, that joined Skypoker on 26th March 2020,and played 9 mtts in 24 hours, and zero play, at all, since 27th March 2020,shows up, for the very first time, in nearly a YEAR in a 06.00 am £5.50 bounty hunter, final tables, 3 left, and runs like...
Anyone feel, that's worthy enough? of a question being asked, because I certainly do feel, a question or two, should be asked.