In Response to Re: Another rake race - seriously? : You fold pretty much every hand apart from a premium range. Does it not do ur nut in pressing buttons? Posted by LARSON7
what I think causes the problems with this promo is that you have the chance to get free money for playing nothing. why couldn't the prizes for the biggest rake on the micro stakes be free entry into some tournament. something like say 1st free entry into the 25K promo and mini 2nd free entry into the 25K promo only 3rd free entry into Tuesday Thursday and main and mini 4th free entry into Tuesday Thursday and main event only 5th get 1 £33 main and 1 mini 6th 1 main event 7th-12th can have free entry into 7 down to 2 mini events depending on position
basically something like that because the recs will do anything to get the chance of free entry into a big tournament but with it only being 1st-4th getting much value it would look pointless for the biggest stake to drop down to the micro stakes table.
larson7 i`ve played a lot with DTM and he defo not as tight as what your saying i`ve seen loads of funky hands that even i would be proud of but just to clarify he ain`t a nit,also just to touch on what lambert has said they are so many at these levels that are just so nitty which really makes the games boring imo.
I don't think it's fair that people have a go at DTM for dropping down tbh. It's the promo's fault not DTM's. He's well within his right (as we all are) to play whatever games he likes. He certainly wasn't the only one to do it last time, and if he does do it again he won't be alone.
If Sky make it rake paid/points earned then there's no way he would drop to 4NL, but they haven't and this is one of the major flaws in the promo.
Lol DTMs not that bad, I've definitely seem him show up with a few funky hands! I can think of many players who are sitting there waiting for like JJ+ and AQ+ and I don't class DTM as one of them. Tbf though DTM, as you say, you've lost £200 per month in C4P since rewards... but you must have won about £1000+ in promos over the last 6 weeks, so there's a slight discrepancy. You're better off now than you were under the old system if they keep running these weekly. Again, I'm not bothered that you win, and you do grind like a mo fo to do it, wp to you. Would just be nice to have something different that didn't adversely affect the games (imo) I'm not having a go, it's perfectly within your right to do it, but just out of interest, do you plan on grinding 4NL for the first week of July during this promo? Posted by Lambert180
No, but I have to play all lower stakes tables late at night and early in the mornings to enable me to keep 16-20 tables going.
I can't make a living playing 4nl.
We can agree to disagree about the tables being tougher. I'm on most of them so theres one bad player that only plays AA and KK so just steal my blinds everytime. You'll make a fortune doing that for 16 hours a day ;-).
I'm pleased you can see where I'm coming from, losing rake and then having promo's that don't benefit the higher raking players wouldn't exactly be fair.
Sky should run the promo fortnightly and then there wouldn't be all this debate. It obvisouly makes them alot of money!
Rake race's will work for Skypoker, remember 99% of players on here are not very good, 1% are making a killing. So keep it simple, keep people at the tables,
People have won £20'000-£30'000 from this site, yet look at the user numbers? A lot of people most be lossing a lot of money.
larson7 i`ve played a lot with DTM and he defo not as tight as what your saying i`ve seen loads of funky hands that even i would be proud of but just to clarify he ain`t a nit,also just to touch on what lambert has said they are so many at these levels that are just so nitty which really makes the games boring imo. Posted by liamboi11
Hows tricks mate? Missing my easy dollar at the table the last few days?
I don't think it's fair that people have a go at DTM for dropping down tbh. It's the promo's fault not DTM's. He's well within his right (as we all are) to play whatever games he likes. He certainly wasn't the only one to do it last time, and if he does do it again he won't be alone. If Sky make it rake paid/points earned then there's no way he would drop to 4NL, but they haven't and this is one of the major flaws in the promo. Posted by Lambert180
That's fair enough it is a flaw with the promo.
Where i am coming from: the first time this promo ran in May it destroyed 4nl there wasn't much play at all. From my experience the vast majority of tables were filled with regs, playing loads of tables, it wasn't so much poker as pushing buttons. As soon as the 32 raise came in you knew what they had within a few hands.
I sat at one table during the last promo and 3 x raised a table of regs every hand, the maximum number of times i got folds uncotetsted was 11 hands in a row lol
You are right it's not fair singling out individuals. I had posted a couple of threads about DTM above relating to the promo, which i've now deleted. I know where i am coming from but it wasn't right singalling out 1 person.
You can understand DTM doing it, it is his living and allows him to win £300 tax free for a few days work.
In Response to Re: Another rake race - seriously? : Hows tricks mate? Missing my easy dollar at the table the last few days? Got the Notts seat won yet? #takeabucketwithyou Posted by Donttelmum
easy dollars i wish and when you back at the tables mate you enjoying wimbledon?
not tried to qualify for notts yet was going to give it a go this week and yeah bringing 2 buckets will be a long wkend again lol
In Response to Re: Another rake race - seriously? : No, but I have to play all lower stakes tables late at night and early in the mornings to enable me to keep 16-20 tables going. I can't make a living playing 4nl. We can agree to disagree about the tables being tougher. I'm on most of them so theres one bad player that only plays AA and KK so just steal my blinds everytime. You'll make a fortune doing that for 16 hours a day ;-). I'm pleased you can see where I'm coming from, losing rake and then having promo's that don't benefit the higher raking players wouldn't exactly be fair. Sky should run the promo fortnightly and then there wouldn't be all this debate. It obvisouly makes them alot of money! GL at the tables buddy! Posted by Donttelmum
Would not have a problem with that as long as the extra rake paid by the participants covers the prizes and is not subsidised by the thousand not taking part. Then they could stop calling it promo that everyone can take part in and that will attract new players and just call it a reward.
In Response to Re: Another rake race - seriously? : easy dollars i wish and when you back at the tables mate you enjoying wimbledon? not tried to qualify for notts yet was going to give it a go this week and yeah bringing 2 buckets will be a long wkend again lol Posted by liamboi11
It was abit dissapointing to be honest. Queued for hours yesterday and then got to see 45 mins play.
I might play a few qualifiers tonight, see if I can lock up a Notts seat. Will have to get back to the tables asap, London and esp Wimbledon ain't cheap!
Hopefully the 20nl tables will be nice and soft next week then, dtm has outplayed me heads up whilst 12+ tabling and if he only plays premiums in 6max he must get them every 3-4 hands especially with how many pots i played with him during the promo lol There are a few super nitty players, but that style is succesful for them at 10nl so can't really blame them.
Donttelmum do you not see the long term loss of this.
You lose £200 rakeback i understand that, but surely by having these wors eplayers getting that £200 you make that back on winrate.
I really don't blame you for taking advantage of the promotion, i have no quarrels against that. But the promotion itself is flawed.
If you disagree, then why has no MAJOR site done a rake race. Simple long term. Other sites are doing segregation just to keep recreational players in the game. Its not astro physics to work out that poker sites need 2 kind of people.
1. Regulars like yourself to make the site money
2. Weaker players, like those who will not play NL4 during this promotion to feed the regular players.
Donttelmum do you not see the long term loss of this. You lose £200 rakeback i understand that, but surely by having these wors eplayers getting that £200 you make that back on winrate. I really don't blame you for taking advantage of the promotion, i have no quarrels against that. But the promotion itself is flawed. If you disagree, then why has no MAJOR site done a rake race. Simple long term. Other sites are doing segregation just to keep recreational players in the game. Its not astro physics to work out that poker sites need 2 kind of people. 1. Regulars like yourself to make the site money 2. Weaker players, like those who will not play NL4 during this promotion to feed the regular players. Posted by The_Don90
In Response to Re: Another rake race - seriously? : Nooooo, cause you only wait for premium hands lol Posted by LARSON7
So? If his game is making him money then why would he change it? An why do you care? This s Skypoker, play tight win...SIMPLE.
My fella came (who was on here briefly) recently won a car in online poker (although they sent us a rather large cheque for the value of the car, not the actual car) after that win he got a lot of hassle for being tight. Well its his money, he earned it, he can be as tight as he wants with it.
I haven't read this thread, can't be bothered and I pay no attention to promotions, however I wanted to make a quick point, sorry if it's already been said;
Essentially the Cash League is back. The only difference is that it's now being played out over shorter time periods rather than a full calendar month.
Maybe ditching the leagues wasn't such a good idea after all. I remember the days when (hilariously) there were Russian Roulette grinders playing a huge volume to win the STT league. They're all long gone now.
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what I think causes the problems with this promo is that you have the chance to get free money for playing nothing.
why couldn't the prizes for the biggest rake on the micro stakes be free entry into some tournament.
something like say
1st free entry into the 25K promo and mini
2nd free entry into the 25K promo only
3rd free entry into Tuesday Thursday and main and mini
4th free entry into Tuesday Thursday and main event only
5th get 1 £33 main and 1 mini
6th 1 main event
7th-12th can have free entry into 7 down to 2 mini events depending on position
basically something like that because the recs will do anything to get the chance of free entry into a big tournament but with it only being 1st-4th getting much value it would look pointless for the biggest stake to drop down to the micro stakes table.
If Sky make it rake paid/points earned then there's no way he would drop to 4NL, but they haven't and this is one of the major flaws in the promo.
People have won £20'000-£30'000 from this site, yet look at the user numbers? A lot of people most be lossing a lot of money.
Where i am coming from: the first time this promo ran in May it destroyed 4nl there wasn't much play at all. From my experience the vast majority of tables were filled with regs, playing loads of tables, it wasn't so much poker as pushing buttons. As soon as the 32 raise came in you knew what they had within a few hands.
I sat at one table during the last promo and 3 x raised a table of regs every hand, the maximum number of times i got folds uncotetsted was 11 hands in a row lol
You are right it's not fair singling out individuals. I had posted a couple of threads about DTM above relating to the promo, which i've now deleted. I know where i am coming from but it wasn't right singalling out 1 person.
You can understand DTM doing it, it is his living and allows him to win £300 tax free for a few days work.
Then they could stop calling it promo that everyone can take part in and that will attract new players and just call it a reward.
So? If his game is making him money then why would he change it? An why do you care? This s Skypoker, play tight win...SIMPLE.
My fella came (who was on here briefly) recently won a car in online poker (although they sent us a rather large cheque for the value of the car, not the actual car) after that win he got a lot of hassle for being tight. Well its his money, he earned it, he can be as tight as he wants with it.
DTM by default plays a lot of tables, so by default when they run a promo he plays more tables and so does everyone else taking part.
If Sky did not encourage people to fold than DTM & co would not drop down
Essentially the Cash League is back. The only difference is that it's now being played out over shorter time periods rather than a full calendar month.
Maybe ditching the leagues wasn't such a good idea after all. I remember the days when (hilariously) there were Russian Roulette grinders playing a huge volume to win the STT league. They're all long gone now.