In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : Definitely! With a strong hand (eg flopped set) i would nearly always bet out. However, with flopping the absolute, stone cold nuts, Im gonna play it slower to hope I get 'caught up' a bit. Yes, the value of keeping players in is lost and yes, it was very lucky to still get the call on the end. However, i felt that i could check and let someone bet (a wrong assumption in this case) as 2 players behind me were VERY active and i felt sure they'd do the running for me. That didnt happen and Im glad with the end result. I take all comments and appreciate what they're saying. At the end of the day - Offshoot, Scotty and Ladyfingers have given me many headaches when at the tables against them and I'm still trying to improve as much as anyone else is! All comments greatly appreciated! Posted by phil12uk
The absolute stregnth of your hand relates very little to how fast/slow you sghould play the hand.
It's your hands relative stregnth and board texture.
On this board you had the nizzuts but its not like you had the deck crippled like KT on a KKT board, it's still very easy for someone to have a hand thats going to call down at least two streets and maybe stack off on the flop with.
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : the only hand this guy is beating is a bluff Posted by N1CK
he obviously had you on the straight, if not he would have only called your £2 river bet,after his raise to £10,then your raise all in i personally would have thought Ace flush, but as flashflush says, its easy in hindsight, a lot of players do go big to scare players off the hand, maybe he thought you were doing that. Also dont forget, you have to make this decision in seconds, id have probably called as well, then screamed at the monitor lol.
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : !!!!!!! my point is if he bets out and other players have something like a2, kq, 44, then he is hoping one of them hits their full house, if he bets and they all fold then am sure you would be saying, "why bet on a board like that when you have the stone cold nuts" phil got his man and got his money and that is all that matters!! stop being jealous Posted by webby234
JEALOUS? i suggest that you read what these jealous people have to say thats if you want to improve your game rather than making stupid remarks about somthing you clearly have very little knowledge about
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : JEALOUS? i suggest that you read what these jealous people have to say thats if you want to improve your game rather than making stupid remarks about somthing you clearly have very little knowledge about Posted by N1CK
are you being serious here or is this the joke of the century? maybe you should take a step back and concentrate on improving your game a bit first before you start teling me too hey!
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : Definitely! With a strong hand (eg flopped set) i would nearly always bet out. However, with flopping the absolute, stone cold nuts, Im gonna play it slower to hope I get 'caught up' a bit. Yes, the value of keeping players in is lost and yes, it was very lucky to still get the call on the end. However, i felt that i could check and let someone bet (a wrong assumption in this case) as 2 players behind me were VERY active and i felt sure they'd do the running for me. That didnt happen and Im glad with the end result. I take all comments and appreciate what they're saying. At the end of the day - Offshoot, Scotty and Ladyfingers have given me many headaches when at the tables against them and I'm still trying to improve as much as anyone else is! All comments greatly appreciated! Posted by phil12uk
i understand what your saying here phil but in my opinion with the texture of this flop your either going to win a big pot or a small one, the only way you win a big pot is if anyone has a piece of this so you have to lead out here 100% of the time, the only time imo to slow play anyflop would be to let sum1 catch up if you flop a house as for obvious reasons its hard for sum1 eles to have a piece of it to, anyway nice pot in the end and can you pleeeeeeeese mail me the name of the guy who paid you off lol
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : are you being serious here or is this the joke of the century? maybe you should take a step back and concentrate on improving your game a bit first before you start teling me too hey! stats dont lie n1ck, stats dont lie Posted by webby234
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : are you being serious here or is this the joke of the century? maybe you should take a step back and concentrate on improving your game a bit first before you start teling me too hey! stats dont lie n1ck, stats dont lie Posted by webby234
In Response to Re: Flop nuts - would you be calling on river? : are you being serious here or is this the joke of the century? maybe you should take a step back and concentrate on improving your game a bit first before you start teling me too hey! stats dont lie n1ck, stats dont lie Posted by webby234
If your talking about sharkscope, then yes, they definately dont tell the whole truth, you can manipulate stats whatever way you wish. I cant name names but one of the really good high stakes players on here has terrible sharkscope stats for this site, but he always seems to be winning. Thats because sharkscope dont include cash tables, and dont include sattelite tournies, so if you gain entry through sats your stats wont be counted.
loony i just dont think hes in a position to tell me how to learn how to play poker when is game clearly isnt that good to what hes making out, he might be a great player going through a bad run but still doesnt give him the right to tell somebody to "learn" how to play when they have better stt and mtt results than him?
loony i just dont think hes in a position to tell me how to learn how to play poker when is game clearly isnt that good to what hes making out, he might be a great player going through a bad run but still doesnt give him the right to tell somebody to "learn" how to play when they have better stt and mtt results than him? Posted by webby234
Agreed, but to be honest is their one player on here that thinks they have nothing to learn? its all opinions anyway, sometimes its not the right or wrong way to play a hand, its just a different way.
just amazing that people can say you played it badly when you got the maximum out of the hand? nobody knows for sure if he played it a different way that he would have got the smae result.
loony i just dont think hes in a position to tell me how to learn how to play poker when is game clearly isnt that good to what hes making out, he might be a great player going through a bad run but still doesnt give him the right to tell somebody to "learn" how to play when they have better stt and mtt results than him? Posted by webby234
look mate iv played about 150 mtts on here with mates, i play more than that a week on other sites, your comments and asumptions are based on your own opinions which i feel are very limited in every aspect
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It's your hands relative stregnth and board texture.
On this board you had the nizzuts but its not like you had the deck crippled like KT on a KKT board, it's still very easy for someone to have a hand thats going to call down at least two streets and maybe stack off on the flop with.
stats dont lie n1ck, stats dont lie
loony i just dont think hes in a position to tell me how to learn how to play poker when is game clearly isnt that good to what hes making out, he might be a great player going through a bad run but still doesnt give him the right to tell somebody to "learn" how to play when they have better stt and mtt results than him?
vince what do you mean you wouldnt go that far?
can you explain please?