as an a aggresive player i like to get all my chips in pre flop with AA but i find they get beaten so many times by ppl that hit with dodgy hands should i slow play them more. does this happen like this in live play
the way you play AA preflop is just do 3xBB as open bet (min raise when chip stacks are getting short) if their is already a raise then just 3bet or raise by 2.5 IP (shove if you are in late stages with chip stacks now being 10-30BB deep)
Raise pre to get rid of trash hands, then play post flop based on texture - remembering that it's still only one pair. I 'pretty much' ALWAYS raise pre because in a live MTT once I limped (to try & be clever) & got called by a late position fish with 74 suited & she hit her 2 pair - subsequently knocking me out.
And yes, Aces do get run out Live, just as frequently, you just see them less often due to hand volumes online.
And remember that youWANTpeople to call with rubbish hands, when they do, you're doubling through a huge percentage of the time, that's the dream scenario.
Yeah it hurts when you get sucked out against, but it only seems worse because you remember those few times a lot more readily than the rest of the times when your aces hold.
I made it to the final 10 of an MTT the other day ( Tuesday actually) I wsa chip leader from the first hand until the money. Here's the two hands that eliminated me, both involving Aces. I was bruised, but it just happens.
So Yeah. - I was first for almost the ENTIRE tournament. - I think I played well. then when we were down to the final 12 - theses catastrophes happen & I go from the top 4 to bust 10th.
In a nutshell - HAND 1 I raised pre with Aces,. - 1 caller. - flop was 3 Diamonds. - I had the Ace of D. - I shove he calls with Kings (with K of D) - hits a K on the river. - I lose 3/4 of my chips.
A few hands later(HAND 2) I re-raise shove pre with Kings. called by Aces - they hold. I'm out.
Not sweating it though, with the Aces I got my chips in good & with the Kings they're only going to be behind to my opps range a tiny fraction of the time. the times when I get unlucky are just that. - bad luck.
Argh - this copy & paste business is too complex. In a nutshell - HAND 1 I raised pre with Aces,. - 1 caller. - flop was 3 Diamonds. - I had the Ace of D. - I shove he calls with Kings (with K of D) - hits a K on the river. - I lose 3/4 of my chips. A few hands later( HAND 2 ) I re-raise shove pre with Kings. called by Aces - they hold. I'm out. Not sweating it though, with the Aces I got my chips in good & with the Kings they're only going to be behind to my opps range a tiny fraction of the time. the times when I get unlucky are just that. - bad luck. Posted by PuppetJack
thaks for the input ppl i will take it in and not let it bother me so much
as an a aggresive player i like to get all my chips in pre flop with AA but i find they get beaten so many times by ppl that hit with dodgy hands should i slow play them more. does this happen like this in live play Posted by brinna12
If you're getting all your chips in pre with AA, then you can't do anything else. If you get outdrawn, so be it. Slow playing will often only encourage the outdraw.
How do you play them pre? EXACTLY the same as how you play every other hand! If you always min bet then min bet, if you always 3x then 3x. Get me?
We should always be looking at the situations we get into POST flop as from then on the only time we have the nuts is if we flop top set with no draws. Which isnt often!
Mainly, the more opponents we have post flop then the more cautious we have to be. Add that to how the board will hit our opponents then we can go from there.
If you pick up AA in the first orbit of a low stakes Bounty Hunter (£5.75 or below, especially £2.30) at a table of unknowns simply going all-in pre-flop, regardless of position or previous action, isn't as ridiculous as it sounds.
There are so many crazy calls in these games you'll find a customer often enough to make it a surprisingly profitable play, probably more profitable than making a standard raise in my opinion. Everybody at the table will assume you're just another bingo maniac, calling ranges will be much wider than you might expect.
If you pick up AA in the first orbit of a low stakes Bounty Hunter (£5.75 or below, especially £2.30) at a table of unknowns simply going all-in pre-flop, regardless of position or previous action, isn't as ridiculous as it sounds. There are so many crazy calls in these games you'll find a customer often enough to make it a surprisingly profitable play, probably more profitable than making a standard raise in my opinion. Everybody at the table will assume you're just another bingo maniac, calling ranges will be much wider than you might expect. Posted by GaryQQQ
Although I am somewhat of a rookie myself, having logged only 2 months on S.P. I a definately with Matt and GaryQQQ here because I think with the concept of a B/Hunter, if you Shove, you will be MORE likely getting a caller who are starting with marginal hands at best, because they are after your head-value!
I think this is why It makes these such an interesting and "tricky to judge" (IMO) concept to play.
Genereally the people on here KNOW what they are doing and the advice given is usually very good/brilliant.
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the big decisions with AA are postflop.
Raise pre to get rid of trash hands, then play post flop based on texture - remembering that it's still only one pair. I 'pretty much' ALWAYS raise pre because in a live MTT once I limped (to try & be clever) & got called by a late position fish with 74 suited & she hit her 2 pair - subsequently knocking me out.
And yes, Aces do get run out Live, just as frequently, you just see them less often due to hand volumes online.
And remember that you WANT people to call with rubbish hands, when they do, you're doubling through a huge percentage of the time, that's the dream scenario.
Yeah it hurts when you get sucked out against, but it only seems worse because you remember those few times a lot more readily than the rest of the times when your aces hold.
I made it to the final 10 of an MTT the other day ( Tuesday actually) I wsa chip leader from the first hand until the money. Here's the two hands that eliminated me, both involving Aces. I was bruised, but it just happens.
HAND #1 - My Aces: -
Hand History #772688349 (16:19 30/04/2014)
HAND#2 ( a few hands after)
Hand History #772690729 (16:27 30/04/2014)
So Yeah. - I was first for almost the ENTIRE tournament. - I think I played well. then when we were down to the final 12 - theses catastrophes happen & I go from the top 4 to bust 10th.
Oh well.
There are so many crazy calls in these games you'll find a customer often enough to make it a surprisingly profitable play, probably more profitable than making a standard raise in my opinion. Everybody at the table will assume you're just another bingo maniac, calling ranges will be much wider than you might expect.