Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games

ryfunere · July 2014

I'm fairly new (couple of months) to Sky Poker and plying thje 'Micro' tables but find I am continually frustrated by players letting the clock run out rather than making a positive action. I appreciate some may be playing multiple tables and it is a 'Turbo' table, but I still consider it very discourteous to other players to just do nothing! If you are going to Check of Fold there are buttons to press that will perform this action when your turn arrives! If three or four players do this the table is effectively no longer a turbo....

salazar · July 2014

In Response to Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

I'm fairly new (couple of months) to Sky Poker and plying thje 'Micro' tables but find I am continually frustrated by players letting the clock run out rather than making a positive action. I appreciate some may be playing multiple tables and it is a 'Turbo' table, but I still consider it very discourteous to other players to just do nothing! If you are going to Check of Fold there are buttons to press that will perform this action when your turn arrives! If three or four players do this the table is effectively no longer a turbo....
Posted by ryfunere

Part of the game and something you have to get used to, I imagine people will be playing lots of tables and may be busy on another table. They may not have pressed fold on auto because they may have an average hand and be waiting to see what others do first.

The time is given for people to take decisions and they are entitled to use it. If you are getting bored waiting then consider playing more than one table yourself

Tikay10 · July 2014

Hi Ry, & that was your maiden post, so welcome to the Sky Poker Community.

Yes, it can be a little frustrating, especially if you are one-tabling, but there's nothing that can be done about it.

In fact, over the years, on this Community, I've seen, literally, hundreds of Posts arguing the opposite, that players should receive MORE thinking time, not less.

From the perspective of the Business, making LESS "thinking time" to act would be a big plus, as more hands would be played. But they can't, they have to allow time for a balanced range of needs. Reduce that time & there'd be a right hoohah, probably rightly so.

I'll be honest, I can no longer "one-table", as the action is not fast enough for me, I like to think & act fast when pokering. So my solution is to open more tables, so I always have action. Reduces variance, too. That does not mean investing more money, just spreading it around better.

Anyway, good luck at the tables.

shakinaces · July 2014

Welcome to the forums ryfunere

I'd also add (from personal experience) that the tech limitations of laptops / broadband connections can cause this through no fault of the player. If the software freezes or the connection drops momentarily it can be even more frustrating for the 'no action' player to get back just to find they've timed out and folded a good hand!!

Hope it doesn't spoil your enjoyment too much and that you play lots more poker on Sky.

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

Welcome to the forums ryfunere I'd also add (from personal experience) that the tech limitations of laptops / broadband connections can cause this through no fault of the player. If the software freezes or the connection drops momentarily it can be even more frustrating for the 'no action' player to get back just to find they've timed out and folded a good hand!! Hope it doesn't spoil your enjoyment too much and that you play lots more poker on Sky.
Posted by shakinaces

Thank you ShakinAces, and all the people above for the courtesy of your well reasoned responses. I agree in part, but am still convinced there are 'lazy' folk out there who despite not intending any further action on a hand will just let the clock run out to check/fold. I consider this to be plain bad 'Table manners'. However the cure is in my hands.... Stay or go. I like the site because I can manage to make my monthly allowance stretch and even to show a profit on rare occasions so I'll stick it out for a while.

For info. Other sites I have played allow me to see how many tables a player is using just by clicking their icon or in some cases a photo. Also, one site has 'zoom' tables which are as fast as it can get.

Go well all, and thanks again.

Ryfunere (aka John)

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

Hi Ry, & that was your maiden post, so welcome to the Sky Poker Community. Yes, it can be a little frustrating, especially if you are one-tabling, but there's nothing that can be done about it. In fact, over the years, on this Community, I've seen, literally, hundreds of Posts arguing the opposite, that players should receive MORE thinking time, not less. From the perspective of the Business, making LESS "thinking time" to act would be a big plus, as more hands would be played. But they can't, they have to allow time for a balanced range of needs. Reduce that time & there'd be a right hoohah, probably rightly so. I'll be honest, I can no longer "one-table", as the action is not fast enough for me, I like to think & act fast when pokering. So my solution is to open more tables, so I always have action. Reduces variance, too. That does not mean investing more money, just spreading it around better. Anyway, good luck at the tables.
Posted by Tikay10

Hi TiKay, I consider myself greatly honoured to catch your attention and get a reply (:o)).... I watch you guys now and again on Sky's poker channel so many thanks for your response. Give Anna and the others my greetings.

I may try a multi-table scenario but being a pensioner, I set myself a strict monthly allowance & it concerns me that I could get spent out in a day or two.

From reading the other replies it seems clear a set of 'ultra-turbo' tables may be welcomed by many. A 3-second clock would be fun.

I'm sure you know which site has 'Zoom' tables and maybe something similar could be emplaced here.

Kind regards

Ryfunere (John)

ajmilton · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Thank you ShakinAces, and all the people above for the courtesy of your well reasoned responses. I agree in part, but am still convinced there are 'lazy' folk out there who despite not intending any further action on a hand will just let the clock run out to check/fold. I consider this to be plain bad 'Table manners'. However the cure is in my hands.... Stay or go. I like the site because I can manage to make my monthly allowance stretch and even to show a profit on rare occasions so I'll stick it out for a while. For info. Other sites I have played allow me to see how many tables a player is using just by clicking their icon or in some cases a photo. Also, one site has 'zoom' tables which are as fast as it can get. Go well all, and thanks again. Ryfunere (aka John)
Posted by ryfunere

Hi ryfunere Welcome to the forum, if you click on find a player
and just type in the name of any player on your table
it will tell you how many tables said player is playing.

Regards Alan

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Hi ryfunere Welcome to the forum, if you click on find a player and just type in the name of any player on your table it will tell you how many tables said player is playing. Regards Alan
Posted by ajmilton

Many thanks AJM - Still finding my way around and advice such as yours is greatly appreciated.

KR's John

Slipwater · August 2014

A three second clock?

You're kidding, right?

Sir-Gary · August 2014

First remember there is a time allowed for each play, and each player is entitled to use as much or as little as they wish for whatever reason. That being the case nothing can be done about that. I understand what you mean though as from your point of view all you can see is the clock counting down, and you like most poker players are action junkies so therefore it is frustrating. I should point out that in cash there is less reasons for deliberately slow playing. The usual reason is multi tabling, now you could also do that and though I do I can understand some people finding it less enjoyable, or if playing within their bankroll at the lowest stake not affordable as you should always only play for what you can afford to lose.

I thought for amusement I would give you some real life reasons for people slow playing sitting out etc.

A fire alarm went off and they were playing at work so had to evacuate (think I want their job)

Their daughter broke her leg in the garden, the wife went with her to hospital and they came back to PLAY!!!

My son ran over a cat in my street, as I spent yeaers in St John, and worked on the Ambulances it's regarded as my job ( I AM NOT A VET).

Needless to say there are many other possibilties like burning the dinner, a phone call, wife/husband moaning etc.

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

First remember there is a time allowed for each play, and each player is entitled to use as much or as little as they wish for whatever reason. That being the case nothing can be done about that. I understand what you mean though as from your point of view all you can see is the clock counting down, and you like most poker players are action junkies so therefore it is frustrating. I should point out that in cash there is less reasons for deliberately slow playing. The usual reason is multi tabling, now you could also do that and though I do I can understand some people finding it less enjoyable, or if playing within their bankroll at the lowest stake not affordable as you should always only play for what you can afford to lose. I thought for amusement I would give you some real life reasons for people slow playing sitting out etc. A fire alarm went off and they were playing at work so had to evacuate (think I want their job) Their daughter broke her leg in the garden, the wife went with her to hospital and they came back to PLAY!!! My son ran over a cat in my street, as I spent yeaers in St John, and worked on the Ambulances it's regarded as my job ( I AM NOT A VET). Needless to say there are many other possibilties like burning the dinner, a phone call, wife/husband moaning etc.
Posted by Sir-Gary

Hi Sir-Gary.

I understand about the occasional need to answer the door, take a call etc etc, but.... there are a fair number of folk out there who are playing only one table (I checked using advice given earlier) and they consistently run down the clock. It's these I consider to be bad nannered and discourteous. - Go well.

Regards, John

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

A three second clock? You're kidding, right?
Posted by Slipwater

Hi Slipwater - Sorry, but I don't see a three second clock being a problem. Try counting them, starting with '0' to get three full seconds... to me it's plenty of time to make a bet/check/fold decision. I and a lot of players rarely use more than this. If the software allows, maybe have a 'time extension' option to extend the clock to six or eight secs and for any player actually 'setting' a bet but a fold/check is easy in three. You also have the time waiting your turn to make decisions and buttons to pre-select a choice.

Regards, John

Slipwater · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Hi Slipwater - Sorry, but I don't see a three second clock being a problem. Try counting them, starting with '0' to get three full seconds... to me it's plenty of time to make a bet/check/fold decision. I and a lot of players rarely use more than this. If the software allows, maybe have a 'time extension' option to extend the clock to six or eight secs and for any player actually 'setting' a bet but a fold/check is easy in three. You also have the time waiting your turn to make decisions and buttons to pre-select a choice. Regards, John
Posted by ryfunere

Are you seriously trying to tell me how to count to three? I am perfectly aware of how long three seconds lasts - ask the more-than-seven women I have been with - and I still think it's far too short a period of time to impose as a rule.

walesboy · August 2014

Hi and welcome
I think 3 seconds would be a bit quick especially if you are multi tabling. I don't play anymore than 4 and if 2 are "on the clock" at the same time 3 seconds would be too quick for me.
Maybe you could have tables with that length of clock and then you can play with like minded players.
Good luck

hhyftrftdr · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Are you seriously trying to tell me how to count to three? I am perfectly aware of how long three seconds lasts - ask the more-than-seven women I have been with - and I still think it's far too short a period of time to impose as a rule.
Posted by Slipwater

Sick brag sir, wp.

tomgoodun · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Sick brag sir, wp.
Posted by hhyftrftdr

Yup,he told me in confidence it's 7.5 "women" that trip to Thailand is still a bit fuzzy but another notch is another notch right ?;)

MrWh1te · August 2014

I thought he said 'more than 7' because he can't spell 8

hhyftrftdr · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

I thought he said 'more than 7' because he can't spell 8
Posted by MrWh1te

Or count to 8?

Slipwater · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Or count to 8?
Posted by hhyftrftdr

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games : Are you seriously trying to tell me how to count to three? I am perfectly aware of how long three seconds lasts - ask the more-than-seven women I have been with - and I still think it's far too short a period of time to impose as a rule.
Posted by Slipwater

Not seriously and no offense meant! But, check how many people when asked to count three seconds go 1,2,3, which as we both know is actually only two seconds elapsed time. I'm not going to argue about three vs eight second clocks, but I will stand by my thinkinhg that some people have no 'Table manners' in continually letting the clock run out. ~ go well.

ryfunere · August 2014

In Response to Re: Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games:

Hi and welcome I think 3 seconds would be a bit quick especially if you are multi tabling. I don't play anymore than 4 and if 2 are "on the clock" at the same time 3 seconds would be too quick for me. Maybe you could have tables with that length of clock and then you can play with like minded players. Good luck
Posted by walesboy

Thanks Wales. Yep, the 3-second tables are, very selfishly I admit, intended just for folk like me who tend to play quickly.

Slow play on 'Turbo' Cash games

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