In Response to Re: How can i stop people fishing??? When the board is constantly rewarding the fish??? : I'm not sure about that, teeks, as the last card algorithm is getting really complex these days, and maybe it's doesn't cache all the background info needed because of memory constraints. Think what it has to do for everyone who is still in the pot on the river: what are the fair odds for each hand who has been playing bad who are the fish who are in the lucky seats who are bots who are the big stacks who are the regs who are the newbies who works for SkyPoker who has cashed out recently who is about to write to the gambling regulator and so on then it has to work out which card will meet as many of the river requirements as possible. And sometimes there may be two or more players who should be helped to win the hand. So now it will need to look at all the recent river decisions for those two players to make the final decision. I don't care how good you say the sky software is, doing that will take some time and we know the software has memory problems which will slow it down further. And why not use the idea of a theatrical pause as a smokescreen for this - just genius. Posted by GELDY
surly thats just pure bull about the river been paused???!!! If this was really the case then are we not playing just to be beat? (i think not)..... we just have bad beats sometimes some people have more than others its just poker, we all moan about the bad beats the river ''the river that would never normally come'' no one can predict nor say what would normally come ive done my fair share of moaning and will probably still moan at the bad beats but im not gonna think its rigged when i see live hands get dealt like that all the time, again its POKER..... if someone wants to call you with a bad hand an win dont be to cut up about it,, make a note of the player and how loose they play, cash in on this later on.... you probably find in the long run your a much profitable player than the donks...
In Response to Re: How can i stop people fishing??? When the board is constantly rewarding the fish??? : I'm not sure about that, teeks, as the last card algorithm is getting really complex these days, and maybe it's doesn't cache all the background info needed because of memory constraints. Think what it has to do for everyone who is still in the pot on the river: what are the fair odds for each hand who has been playing bad who are the fish who are in the lucky seats who are bots who are the big stacks who are the regs who are the newbies who works for SkyPoker who has cashed out recently who is about to write to the gambling regulator and so on then it has to work out which card will meet as many of the river requirements as possible. And sometimes there may be two or more players who should be helped to win the hand. So now it will need to look at all the recent river decisions for those two players to make the final decision. I don't care how good you say the sky software is, doing that will take some time and we know the software has memory problems which will slow it down further. And why not use the idea of a theatrical pause as a smokescreen for this - just genius. Posted by GELDY
This will be read literally, you know that. You have just created several more excuses for why a 1/5 chance on river happens twice in a row to a player. By the way, a 1/5 chance the second time (in poker, roulette, any chance game) is still 1/5).
The whole concept of being a winning player in poker takes into account 2 things:
Over time, the players who make the most +ev (mathermatically best calls given holding hands, cards on table and opponent's hands) will win and....
There will be variance, where you have strings of luck, or bad luck, so bankroll management is necessary to allow for these swings.
If you (OP) want to see luck play out, go to ahy casino, and watch a roulette table. Ignore the green 0 slot, and look at red or black. Most tables now have a "history" of previous numbers and the colour. You will often see 10+ red/black numbers in a row, and that is in an hour or two. You see people mark off numbers that have come as if that is an indicator of numbers to come... there is still a 50% chance(minus 1/37 chance of 0) that the next number will be red or black.
What many people confuse is the chance that if you bet on 10 consecutive reds to come up, the chance would be 2^10 (minus 0 coming up) - 1/1024. The chance of 11 coming up might be 1/2048 (again ignore green), but the chance of the 11th roll being red or black is still a coin toss.
When something bad happens we remember it more than when something good happens we just take it in and move on, what we find is we have "a bad beat memory" as if its scarred on our memory.
I should not indulge, I have better things to do, but hey, it's Sunday morning. Easily my favourite line was this...... "The pause before the river card is dealt is so the software can find the right card" I mean, that's just gasp-worthy, isn't it? Some sites have that theatrical river card pause for dramatic effect, but the mind boggles that folks think it would take any longer to "find" any particular card. Posted by Tikay10
I agree with you that it is all done on RNG systems (random number generators) but if you could post something suggesting this... it would still not be accepted. If people posted a 1000 hand history, maybe 1 in a million got unlucky, but by and large, the odds play out as a poker calculator would suggest. It just feels rank when your Aces hit 10-4 off making a bad call and hitting a good flop. I've sucked out, been sucked out (poker wise...) and I get the rage, but these sites are regulated by and large. You can't get a licence otherwise.
And again no luck. Qualified for the 10k tournament tonight and my two big hands I play with an idiot who was pushing was: AQ v 77 LOST JJ V 99 LOST When it matters I dont catch. But when I sit on a SNG I cant stop getting good hands. Is there two different systems being used? I dont know how to test variance. What I meant was simply I hope luck WILL go my way when it matters. So far I am still getting burnt for making right calls. The AQ v 77 I can accept. Coin flip fair enough. JJ V 99......yea right Posted by Gamer11
AQ v 77 you are an underdog.
JJ v 99 you are unlucky but about 12% chance unlucky (1/9 for set plus straight and flush draws).
Unless someone is drawing dead they can never have worse than a 2% chance on river,and often it is a lot higher (17% chance for flush/straight making it = 17% or so). If it was just skill, pros would never bust out.
In Response to Re: How can i stop people fishing??? When the board is constantly rewarding the fish??? : beat the player 90% of the time what on this site .. wake up and smell the coffee i did! Posted by DESERTTURK
In Response to Re: How can i stop people fishing??? When the board is constantly rewarding the fish??? : Finished your coffee then. DESERTTURK 7803.75 £9.40 Head Prizes 5 £5.60 Good to see you back at the tables. Posted by mumsie
They always come back. Tail firmly between legs. Until the next time they think its rigged and flounce off again.
What seems to amaze me is that when you check some players on sharkscope who have called big raises with rubbish like 83 or 84 and get there or sometimes lead out with big raises with the same range of hands that get there, they are winning players. I would understand if they were losing players playing hands with the odds stacked against them
What seems to amaze me is that when you check some players on sharkscope who have called big raises with rubbish like 83 or 84 and get there or sometimes lead out with big raises with the same range of hands that get there, they are winning players. I would understand if they were losing players playing hands with the odds stacked against them Posted by bert21
Sometimes table dynamics plays it part.
For example, if you was watching me last night. This happened.
Table is super weak, 4 out of the 5 players are limping any two rubbish, calling any pre flop raise then folding flop when miss or open shoving if hit. Is getting late stage and is around bubble, 3 way limped I am on button with trash - I reraise big to squeeze and hopefully take a nice 10% on to my stack for not much effort. I get two calls - flop a boat - I continue - expecting the usual snap folds, get a shove he has trips for GG. Queue the trolls telling me I am terrible how can I play like that
Point is, some players will make some strange plays to the untrained eye, but in the scheme of things probably have a plan or the odds to make such plays / calls.
Also, with SHarkscope, tree with caution. Some players who are just casual players can also blink a mtt. A typical example is a turbo Tuesday blink. Also, some very good players may not show much profit or be reset etc.
You always want the bad calls - play within role and be happy - say GG and make notes
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Finished your coffee then.