Stopped playing 2/4 today after 2 really bad beats was all in with AAA after the flop against J 10 turn and river gave him a straight Ahhhh went on tilt after that lost a bit more ended up playing DYMs luckily made back losses and ended up +£15 on day. Will stick to DYMs for a while now,
logged on last night at 11.30 ish,thought i'd just play an hour or so... 4.5 hrs later..
lost £25.97
down £30.64 this month.
worst session i've had for sges. lost with KK v QQ AK on a AK6 flop (opponent had 66 obviously)
you name it,i lost. no worries,i know it happens. i'll get over it. only losing money won,so no biggie.
probably going to evaluate things over next day or so and see what comes up. do i continue on this cash journey,or go back to playing dym's,...again? (down £10.18 from playing all cash games this year). i'm sure you guys have had similar sessions and know how it feels. like i'm banging my head against a brick wall atm. (well i know spinky does anyway.) ul mate,might see you later lol dev
logged on last night at 11.30 ish,thought i'd just play an hour or so... 4.5 hrs later.. lost £25.97 down £30.64 this month. worst session i've had for sges. lost with KK v QQ AK on a AK6 flop (opponent had 66 obviously) you name it,i lost. no worries,i know it happens. i'll get over it. only losing money won,so no biggie. probably going to evaluate things over next day or so and see what comes up. do i continue on this cash journey,or go back to playing dym's,...again? (down £10.18 from playing all cash games this year). i'm sure you guys have had similar sessions and know how it feels. like i'm banging my head against a brick wall atm. (well i know spinky does anyway.) ul mate,might see you later lol dev Posted by devonfish5
Trust me mate you need to stick to playing cash, it might feel like your banging your head against the wall sometimes when it takes an age for your BR to grow but nobody is going to be a good winning cash player overnight and its only by putting time and effort into it that you will reap the rewards later.
I know it gets hard to take sometimes when the beats seem relentless and i know you will have heard this time and time again but alsong as you keep doing the right things at the right times v the right players YOU WILL WIN IN THE LONG RUN.
And in this game that is all that matters.
The other night i sat at 3 tables 100nl 50nl and 40nl and within about 45 mins i was down around £350 almost all of it due to me being unlucky on the river to 1 or 2 outers etc, if i had chose to give up at that point i would be ending on a losing note but i didnt and around 4 hours later i left the tables winning £260.
Badbeats and variance are a massive part of the game and losing runs can last days or even weeks sometimes but the facts remain the same that no matter how long the losing runs last if you keep playing the game right you will beat it.
Chin up Devs you will soon turn it around. Its amazing what happens, and can happen in poker. From abad session comes a good session. No doubt the next time you sit down you will smash it. Posted by LARSON7
In Response to Re: 2p-4p challenge : Trust me mate you need to stick to playing cash, it might feel like your banging your head against the wall sometimes when it takes an age for your BR to grow but nobody is going to be a good winning cash player overnight and its only by putting time and effort into it that you will reap the rewards later. I know it gets hard to take sometimes when the beats seem relentless and i know you will have heard this time and time again but alsong as you keep doing the right things at the right times v the right players YOU WILL WIN IN THE LONG RUN. And in this game that is all that matters. The other night i sat at 3 tables 100nl 50nl and 40nl and within about 45 mins i was down around £350 almost all of it due to me being unlucky on the river to 1 or 2 outers etc, if i had chose to give up at that point i would be ending on a losing note but i didnt and around 4 hours later i left the tables winning £260. Badbeats and variance are a massive part of the game and losing runs can last days or even weeks sometimes but the facts remain the same that no matter how long the losing runs last if you keep playing the game right you will beat it. Best of luck mate Daz. Posted by _ARAZI_
thanks Daz, nice post as always mate,and very much appreciated. had a complete day off y'day and feel better for it. yes,it's all about the long run,hence my reason for switching to cash,but it's just so frustrating atm. (i'll give an ex;played 1 hand perfect,had opponent on flush draw playing to get his stack. i bet, bet again,leaving a £2.50 bet,all-in for him on turn,he called as i thought,and hits flush on river..18% to win..crazy.)(about an £8/£9 swing on 1 street) i'm also finding it difficult not just losing 4/5/6 buy-ins,etc (i'm well rolled for that) but the way that i'm losing them,which is the most frustrating thing. also finding that these all-in hands are what really determines my sessions,and the difference between winning and losing them is everything,as the other night...mare lol proved. yes,we need to win small pots too,to keep us 'ticking over.' i'll keep on trying though Daz...not time to 'pull up' just yet. anyway, moan out the way...move on. 'grand national day' i usually manage to do ok, and either win a few bob or break even. last year,i had 4th& the horse that came 2nd by a nose... each way glad to say,but that nose cost me quite a bit. (my mum said 'oh well done'...don't you just luv 'em!!!) lol
got a little back today,had some hands actually hold,made a note in diary. lol going to soldier on even if it's just 2 tables for the moment,hopefully will help to keep things under some control. he he.
a few hours this evening resulted in a win wiping out the bad from yesterday. +£25 but i was up more at one point. i was getting tilted towards the end at the amount of hands i had all in pre that just never won. 13 hands over the session, 1 i was crushed, 2 i was racing the rest i was totally dominating and only won 1 of them. and it wasnt the one i was behind in lol, my qq had to set up on turn to beat 66 that flopped a set yep had to win the one hand the hard way. every pair v lower pair spiked a set on the flop. short term varience sucks. it only takes holding in a couiple of those spots n im looking at a very good session, oh well its out ma system now.
my total today finished in a unusual fasion profit and losses per table were 11 profits and 13 losses but luckily with a profit of £8.22 and £10.20 on two of the tables i still was in profit so overall today i got £45.25 profit and losses came to £30.11 so my winnings finished on £15.14 friday was a very small session and TBH i shouldn't have bothered so in the end i lost 9.49 on friday.
Yeah Devon, I've got an audio book called The Poker Mindset and they discuss how the result of pretty much every single session will hang on the result of 1 or 2 big hands. I've given this example from that audio book before somewhere on the forum but I'll give it again because you probably missed it.
It's an example to show how massive an effect just a tiny change from your actual EV can create. It's a very basic example, assuming we play down to the river all the time and making a flush will win the hand but it's just designed to show the possible swings.
Imagine over the course of a week you flop 100 flush draws and you're opponents also flop 100 flush draws.
Let's assume we always play down to the river, this means we should both make around 33 flushes (and win them pots)
Imagine we are running just a tiny bit under EV and only make the flush 25 times, then imagine our opponents are running a tiny bit better than EV and make 40 flushes in that time.
That tiny difference has caused us to lose 15 pots more than we would expect to. An average pot at 4NL is say £1.20 so just over the course of 1 week, that's £18 you've lost more than you can expect to long term, and that's just ONE of a million possible situations in poker like 'do we/they flop a set more/less than expected in a given session/week' etc etc.
In summary, most people vastly underestimate how massive a difference variance can make.
Yeah Devon, I've got an audio book called The Poker Mindset and they discuss how the result of pretty much every single session will hang on the result of 1 or 2 big hands. I've given this example from that audio book before somewhere on the forum but I'll give it again because you probably missed it. It's an example to show how massive an effect just a tiny change from your actual EV can create. It's a very basic example, assuming we play down to the river all the time and making a flush will win the hand but it's just designed to show the possible swings. Imagine over the course of a week you flop 100 flush draws and you're opponents also flop 100 flush draws. Let's assume we always play down to the river, this means we should both make around 33 flushes (and win them pots) Imagine we are running just a tiny bit under EV and only make the flush 25 times, then imagine our opponents are running a tiny bit better than EV and make 40 flushes in that time. That tiny difference has caused us to lose 15 pots more than we would expect to. An average pot at 4NL is say £1.20 so just over the course of 1 week, that's £18 you've lost more than you can expect to long term, and that's just ONE of a million possible situations in poker like 'do we/they flop a set more/less than expected in a given session/week' etc etc. In summary, most people vastly underestimate how massive a difference variance can make. Posted by Lambert180
thanks for that Paul' yes it's so east to get results oriantated each session,and like you've said just a little swing here and there can and does make a massive impact on just 1 session. i guess i'll have to adjust to it,and try not to let it get to me too much. lol thanks again mate dev
after a good start to the week i suffered heavy since having the break off after loosing money friday and making losses on more table that winning saturday today was the worst of all with losses of 18.96 because my strong hands just didn't seem to ever get much unless i was shoving with the draws. over the whole week i my outcome is +£15
Some of the guys from 20nl came to the tables for a laugh or to be maniacical lol goodylad or somethin like that was sitting with £36!
Been a while since i posted up, i'm only going to be playing a maximum of 1 hour at cash a day over the next while, i was spending to much time playing and not enjoying it as much -))
Yesterday i lost £7.80 playing cash
Today i made about £3
Total Minus £4.80 (cash 2p 4p)
I've been playing a few BH and on the transaction history it moves the cash results off the screen, how do you check exactly whats been won or lost at cash?
if u go to 'my account' then show my complete,change to poker activity from the last 24 hours,change to week,etc.. press quick history search and all your poker results will come up all tables come up.. cash tables tournament money out column is how much you have paid in for that table (bit confusing) money in column is how much you have won for that table so ex; money in £11.60 money out £4.12 you have won £7.48 from that table
hope that helps dev ps, i just have a diary and know my b/roll before each session,then if i'm only playing cash for example, i just check my b/roll after each session and know how much i've won/lost. simple
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dev
total so far: +£51.87
4.5 hrs later..
lost £25.97
down £30.64 this month.
worst session i've had for sges.
lost with KK v QQ
AK on a AK6 flop (opponent had 66 obviously)
you name it,i lost.
no worries,i know it happens.
i'll get over it.
only losing money won,so no biggie.
probably going to evaluate things over next day or so and see what comes up.
do i continue on this cash journey,or go back to playing dym's,...again?
(down £10.18 from playing all cash games this year).
i'm sure you guys have had similar sessions and know how it feels.
like i'm banging my head against a brick wall atm.
(well i know spinky does anyway.)
ul mate,might see you later lol
dev
Its amazing what happens, and can happen in poker. From abad session comes a good session. No doubt the next time you sit down you will smash it.
Trust me mate you need to stick to playing cash, it might feel like your banging your head against the wall sometimes when it takes an age for your BR to grow but nobody is going to be a good winning cash player overnight and its only by putting time and effort into it that you will reap the rewards later.
I know it gets hard to take sometimes when the beats seem relentless and i know you will have heard this time and time again but alsong as you keep doing the right things at the right times v the right players YOU WILL WIN IN THE LONG RUN.
And in this game that is all that matters.
The other night i sat at 3 tables 100nl 50nl and 40nl and within about 45 mins i was down around £350 almost all of it due to me being unlucky on the river to 1 or 2 outers etc, if i had chose to give up at that point i would be ending on a losing note but i didnt and around 4 hours later i left the tables winning £260.
Badbeats and variance are a massive part of the game and losing runs can last days or even weeks sometimes but the facts remain the same that no matter how long the losing runs last if you keep playing the game right you will beat it.
Best of luck mate
Daz.
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^
dev
nice post as always mate,and very much appreciated.
had a complete day off y'day and feel better for it.
yes,it's all about the long run,hence my reason for switching to cash,but it's just so frustrating atm.
(i'll give an ex;played 1 hand perfect,had opponent on flush draw playing to get his stack.
i bet, bet again,leaving a £2.50 bet,all-in for him on turn,he called as i thought,and hits flush on river..18%
to win..crazy.)(about an £8/£9 swing on 1 street)
i'm also finding it difficult not just losing 4/5/6 buy-ins,etc (i'm well rolled for that) but the way that i'm losing them,which is the most frustrating thing.
also finding that these all-in hands are what really determines my sessions,and the difference between winning and losing them is everything,as the other night...mare lol proved.
yes,we need to win small pots too,to keep us 'ticking over.'
i'll keep on trying though Daz...not time to 'pull up' just yet.
anyway,
moan out the way...move on.
'grand national day' i usually manage to do ok, and either win a few bob or break even.
last year,i had 4th& the horse that came 2nd by a nose... each way glad to say,but that nose cost me quite a bit.
(my mum said 'oh well done'...don't you just luv 'em!!!) lol
good luck all
'be lucky'
dev
dont know if i will get much if any play in today.
toatal so far: +£27.53
down £24.79 this month
2 tables nl4 2 hrs
got a little back today,had some hands actually hold,made a note in diary. lol
going to soldier on even if it's just 2 tables for the moment,hopefully will help to keep things under some control. he he.
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^
dev
total so far: +£52.36
my total today finished in a unusual fasion
profit and losses per table were 11 profits and 13 losses but luckily with a profit of £8.22 and £10.20 on two of the tables i still was in profit so overall today i got £45.25 profit and losses came to £30.11 so my winnings finished on £15.14
friday was a very small session and TBH i shouldn't have bothered so in the end i lost 9.49 on friday.
It's an example to show how massive an effect just a tiny change from your actual EV can create. It's a very basic example, assuming we play down to the river all the time and making a flush will win the hand but it's just designed to show the possible swings.
Imagine over the course of a week you flop 100 flush draws and you're opponents also flop 100 flush draws.
Let's assume we always play down to the river, this means we should both make around 33 flushes (and win them pots)
Imagine we are running just a tiny bit under EV and only make the flush 25 times, then imagine our opponents are running a tiny bit better than EV and make 40 flushes in that time.
That tiny difference has caused us to lose 15 pots more than we would expect to. An average pot at 4NL is say £1.20 so just over the course of 1 week, that's £18 you've lost more than you can expect to long term, and that's just ONE of a million possible situations in poker like 'do we/they flop a set more/less than expected in a given session/week' etc etc.
In summary, most people vastly underestimate how massive a difference variance can make.
yes it's so east to get results oriantated each session,and like you've said just a little swing here and there can and does make a massive impact on just 1 session.
i guess i'll have to adjust to it,and try not to let it get to me too much. lol
thanks again mate
dev
won £7.74
down £17.05 this month.
sounds better than -30 lol
2 tables 4 hrs
happy with how i played and getting the W.
clawing it back,slowly.
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^
dev
after a good start to the week i suffered heavy since having the break off after loosing money friday and making losses on more table that winning saturday today was the worst of all with losses of 18.96 because my strong hands just didn't seem to ever get much unless i was shoving with the draws.
over the whole week i my outcome is +£15
Been a while since i posted up, i'm only going to be playing a maximum of 1 hour at cash a day over the next while, i was spending to much time playing and not enjoying it as much -))
Yesterday i lost £7.80 playing cash
Today i made about £3
Total Minus £4.80 (cash 2p 4p)
I've been playing a few BH and on the transaction history it moves the cash results off the screen, how do you check exactly whats been won or lost at cash?
then show my complete,change to poker activity from the last 24 hours,change to week,etc..
press quick history search
and all your poker results will come up
all tables come up..
cash tables
tournament
money out column is how much you have paid in for that table (bit confusing)
money in column is how much you have won for that table
so
ex; money in £11.60 money out £4.12 you have won £7.48 from that table
hope that helps
dev
ps, i just have a diary and know my b/roll before each session,then if i'm only playing cash for example,
i just check my b/roll after each session and know how much i've won/lost. simple
A profits a profit lol