In Response to Re: any regs fed up with sky?? : you did call him a little idiot....... his post was blunt but relevant - you are clearly frustrated but your OP was more a moan than a constructive criticism - which you have started to address subsequently Posted by GELDY
Exactly, there is no need for name calling, it doesnt bother me in the slightest, but it detracts from the boards, I mean how old are you anyway?
Or is it the lack of mental ability to derive a witty retort that results in a nethanderthal type revert to aggression?
Besides, if you cant take a bit of light banter, you really shouldnt be dishing it out in the first place.
Your right TheRocks everything you've said is correct. This is coming from, as you know a guy who plays all mtts on here. I will be on lot less for same reasons as you.
Good luck OP trying to get more tournies down that suit you.
I know it has been mentioned a few times about the lack of variety of tournies on here before by other contributors, and the high level of bounty hunters.
I would actually like to see a tournie inbetween a regular BH and a deepstack. The BH, well at the lower levels, can be a bit of bingo at times, where as the deepstacks are pretty slow at going in. It would be good to have a tournie that allowed for some decent poker play, but not as deep as the current deepstacks. I love playing tournies, but it's better live.
What a pointless post. Of all the sites I have played on, I consider Sky by far the best at asking for its memberrs opinions and input. Why bother typing that and not bother talking to Sky about your ideas/concerns? Posted by calcalfold
Talking about pointless posts.........
Remember these words?
" Now, how am I going to extract most value from quads. Dont you just love it when people donk bet....oooh I paired my ace, i got de nuts, time to get my moniez"
Your right TheRocks everything you've said is correct. This is coming from, as you know a guy who plays all mtts on here. I will be on lot less for same reasons as you. Posted by DivsDreams
in fairness therock573 has started and contributed greatly to any thread looking to improve the mtt schedule on sky. it's not like he hasn't tried 'talking to sky'
this one may be a moan but its most likely a moan based on the fact that nothing has come from trying to talk to sky like so many people have advised.
dohhhhhh hit the nail completely on the head....as an mtt grinder this is the wrong site to be on.
In Response to Re: any regs fed up with sky?? : i did call him an idiot yes, and i stand by that comment because i think he is one. my post was a moan but everyone likes a moan from time to time, i dont see how my post isnt relevant either, your an mtt player and can you honestly say your happy with the schedule on sky??? Posted by THEROCK573
Dude, take a chill pill, you on life tilt or something?
I think this is a very interesting DISCUSSION (as long as we keep it that way, with no name calling or berating etc)
It seemed almost too perfect not to mention something new that is coming up on Sky Poker in the coming weeks.
We will be running a promotion called 'Battle of the Mains' whereby two main events, with the exact same buy-in and guarantee, will be running alongside one another. However, the two mains will be completely different in structure (for example a Turbo Bounty Hunter and a Deepstack).
There will be the 'Regular' (the main that currently runs) versus 'The Contender' (the main that will be new and looking to displace the regular tournament from its throne). The notion is that whichever tournament generates the largest prizepool will then run on the same weekday the following week.
I feel as though this discussion could be used to suggest any tournaments that you might want to see as 'contenders' to the regular MTT's that run at the moment (remember all ideas will be considered, but of course, not all ideas will be implemented)
Remember, this promotion is not scheduled to run for quite some time, but this thread seemed a good place to mention that it is coming...!
Please keep suggestions well balanced and calm, as the last thing I want is for it to be closed down after getting out of hand.
To be fair to Sky it seems to me like they've tried hard to get bigger buy-in MTTs off the ground over the last couple of years, but there just aren't enough players here looking to play at those stakes to sustain them as a regular daily fixture. If iirc there was a £100 buy-in event every night for a while, but they just didn't get the numbers and were soon pulled.
When the Primo was a £33 tournament it used to get over 500 runners every week without fail and carried a £15K guarantee. Since the buy-in has been increased to £55 the average field has more than halved, just a few over 200 is the norm now (it was 204 this Sunday). Obviously the guarantee has been chipped away accordingly and is now down to £10K. Those numbers tell you all you need to know. In my opinion the shift to £55 can only be considered a failure.
You guys calling for more big stakes tournies are just gonna have to accept you're in a minority here, albeit a vocal minority. The silent majority have no interest in those games.
Nice one Sky Joe. You sound as if you know whats happening so glad youve took time out to mention that on the thread. For you guys who said this is the wrong site for MTT grinders, Thats cool youve said that, You guys probably know other sites better. I started on Sky just couple of years back and have never played on another site until very recently. The other site seems very good, but due to the big numbers, only problem i will have is getting time to play a lot of them. Hence why i play on sky and to be honest only place ave played so all ive ever knew, Like lots of people on here, Also fact i do ok, its case of if its not broke dont fix it. Maybey im same as Rock bit bored of same players, same rebuy tournys, same bounty hunters. Maybey bit bored of poker?. I will just do same as Rocks and Bearly and play selected tournys now. I think a similar Sky Roller tournament wud be great Joe, even a smaller buy in and smaller gtd pool , if you dont want to have overlay. Also less rebuys id hope for, although not a problem keeping an add on if needed to help make cash up. Cheers
yeah so fed up @ cash - like snoreville city Decided to just stop giving action to certain bore.com regs playing somewhere else where players actually do play some pokerz Very diffcult to improve playing cash on SKY !
I suppose everyone got the survey off sky asking about your ideas. Well going off this thread if like me you said, "to many bounty hunters". We my see a change. Posted by tomo_efc
The players vote with their buy-ins; Bounty Hunters always attract far more runners than freeze-outs on Sky at all stakes. Why should Sky cut back on the most popular games?
Watch the lobby this afternoon. One of the many daytime £2.30 Bounty Hunters will start at 2-15pm, the only £2.20 deepstack that runs all day will start just 5 minutes later at 2-20pm. I predict the Bounty Hunter will still attract more runners.
Yeh I agree with you Gary that bounty hunters will always get more runners. Thats a gimmie at lunchtime today. But if you move up a level, The £5.50 mega stack would compare closely with a 5.75- £500 GTD Bounty Hunter in numbers. (I know thats only on 1 time a weeK). Up to the top level, The £55 primo always makes the guarantee. Would a 2 night a week £ 55 freezeout do well on sky? I will say yes. Lets for example call it The Midweek Primo, Winner gets free entry to Sundays Primo. could have jackpot for winning 2 in same week. and say a Mini Sky roller another night with 5k starting chips, even 8 min blinds. Worth a try or were gona lose lot of players in my opinion. Need get excitement back somehow. Cant keep holding out for VLV. Pople bored wating on that coming out aswell.
I'm pretty much in a +1 with Div's post. (both of them)
Limited experience elsewhere, getting a bit bored of the routine on here, becoming more selective in what I play, SKY remains my first choice but I feel less inclined to play as much as I used to, when I look at the MTT lobby some nights SKY Poker is losing it's appeal, though this could be just me and other reasons / other interests.
I thought the Monte Carlo TSP event, rekindled alot of the good things SKY's all about, though I felt SKY shot themselves in the foot by stopping the qualifier 10 days or so before the event. Interest was building, people seemed keen to get involved, but SKY closed the door too early in my opinion, poker players seem to love 'the last chance saloon' and I think there was a trick missed there. Of course there were other way's to qualify for the DTD Monte Carlo and a number of SKY reg's went that way, but of no benefit to SKY, perhaps there were legal reasons for SKY not running sats closer to the event?
I think similar events where team TSP get involved and regs have a chance to sat their way in would be great, maybe even a return of the TSP mtt, with an associated league and TSP live seats as the reward?
Similar shooting in foot by SKY over VLV, there must be good reason for the lack of VLV, but whilst SKY hold back or are held back, there are other options and avenues to qualify for a Vegas package, none of which benefit SKY.
IMO, VLV has been getting bigger and better each year, I thought this year would see the biggest SKY team yet and spread the wings further, with added packages, the opportunity to get SKY players into a few of the many 'side' events leading up to the WSOP.
Again there are opportunities out there but not through SKY, personally if I was going to Vegas during the WSOP my first choice would be to try and win my way onto team SKY with Tikay in Vegas, but it seems the Vegas dream will have to take a different path.
UKOPS is good, but for me Christmas and Easter are not ideal times for me to be focusing on poker, perhaps my profile doesn't fit that of a typical poker player?
The SuperRoller is also a good addition, but it's once a month, so there is no guarantee I can play it regularly so I don't play sat's until I know what I'm doing.
Now if SKY run the SuperRoller more regularly and ran satellites where you win a seat to 'a SuperRoller of your choice' I would fully be committed to the event.
I recently qualified for the £110BH, then found I couldn't play, de-registered and had to apply some pressure to customer care to get them to refund my buy-in and I'm not going through that again!
Back to the nightly MTT's, I will try anything once, so any attempts to freshen up the schedule will be supported by me, I will certainly get involved with 'The Battle of the mains'.
Too many BH's and rebuys for my liking at the moment, the Thursday SKYRoller was quality, why not run it every week again, but have sats where you win 'a SKYRoller seat of your choice', put an expiry date on it so you don't have 'credits' sitting in peoples accounts for months, this would also stop people playing these sats just for the prize money and not taking their seats in the event.
How about a 10 seater main being part of 'The Battle'?
I'm pretty much in a +1 with Div's post. (both of them) Limited experience elsewhere, getting a bit bored of the routine on here, becoming more selective in what I play, SKY remains my first choice but I feel less inclined to play as much as I used to, when I look at the MTT lobby some nights SKY Poker is losing it's appeal, though this could be just me and other reasons / other interests. I thought the Monte Carlo TSP event, rekindled alot of the good things SKY's all about, though I felt SKY shot themselves in the foot by stopping the qualifier 10 days or so before the event. Interest was building, people seemed keen to get involved, but SKY closed the door too early in my opinion, poker players seem to love 'the last chance saloon' and I think there was a trick missed there. Of course there were other way's to qualify for the DTD Monte Carlo and a number of SKY reg's went that way, but of no benefit to SKY, perhaps there were legal reasons for SKY not running sats closer to the event? I think similar events where team TSP get involved and regs have a chance to sat their way in would be great, maybe even a return of the TSP mtt, with an associated league and TSP live seats as the reward? Similar shooting in foot by SKY over VLV, there must be good reason for the lack of VLV, but whilst SKY hold back or are held back, there are other options and avenues to qualify for a Vegas package, none of which benefit SKY. IMO, VLV has been getting bigger and better each year, I thought this year would see the biggest SKY team yet and spread the wings further, with added packages, the opportunity to get SKY players into a few of the many 'side' events leading up to the WSOP. Again there are opportunities out there but not through SKY, personally if I was going to Vegas during the WSOP my first choice would be to try and win my way onto team SKY with Tikay in Vegas, but it seems the Vegas dream will have to take a different path. UKOPS is good, but for me Christmas and Easter are not ideal times for me to be focusing on poker, perhaps my profile doesn't fit that of a typical poker player? The SuperRoller is also a good addition, but it's once a month, so there is no guarantee I can play it regularly so I don't play sat's until I know what I'm doing. Now if SKY run the SuperRoller more regularly and ran satellites where you win a seat to 'a SuperRoller of your choice' I would fully be committed to the event. I recently qualified for the £110BH, then found I couldn't play, de-registered and had to apply some pressure to customer care to get them to refund my buy-in and I'm not going through that again! Back to the nightly MTT's, I will try anything once, so any attempts to freshen up the schedule will be supported by me, I will certainly get involved with 'The Battle of the mains'. Too many BH's and rebuys for my liking at the moment, the Thursday SKYRoller was quality, again why not run it every week again, but have sats where you win 'a SKYRoller seat of your choice', put an expiry date on it so you don't have 'credits' sitting in peoples accounts for months, this would also stop people playing these sats just for the prize money and not taking their seats in the event. How about a 10 seater main being part of 'The Battle'? Posted by TheDart
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Exactly, there is no need for name calling, it doesnt bother me in the slightest, but it detracts from the boards, I mean how old are you anyway?
Or is it the lack of mental ability to derive a witty retort that results in a nethanderthal type revert to aggression?
Besides, if you cant take a bit of light banter, you really shouldnt be dishing it out in the first place.
Your right TheRocks everything you've said is correct.
This is coming from, as you know a guy who plays all mtts on here.
I will be on lot less for same reasons as you.
I know it has been mentioned a few times about the lack of variety of tournies on here before by other contributors, and the high level of bounty hunters.
I would actually like to see a tournie inbetween a regular BH and a deepstack. The BH, well at the lower levels, can be a bit of bingo at times, where as the deepstacks are pretty slow at going in. It would be good to have a tournie that allowed for some decent poker play, but not as deep as the current deepstacks. I love playing tournies, but it's better live.
Remember these words?
" Now, how am I going to extract most value from quads. Dont you just love it when people donk bet....oooh I paired my ace, i got de nuts, time to get my moniez"
Pot, Kettle and Black!this one may be a moan but its most likely a moan based on the fact that nothing has come from trying to talk to sky like so many people have advised.
dohhhhhh hit the nail completely on the head....as an mtt grinder this is the wrong site to be on.
I think this is a very interesting DISCUSSION (as long as we keep it that way, with no name calling or berating etc)
It seemed almost too perfect not to mention something new that is coming up on Sky Poker in the coming weeks.
We will be running a promotion called 'Battle of the Mains' whereby two main events, with the exact same buy-in and guarantee, will be running alongside one another. However, the two mains will be completely different in structure (for example a Turbo Bounty Hunter and a Deepstack).
There will be the 'Regular' (the main that currently runs) versus 'The Contender' (the main that will be new and looking to displace the regular tournament from its throne). The notion is that whichever tournament generates the largest prizepool will then run on the same weekday the following week.
I feel as though this discussion could be used to suggest any tournaments that you might want to see as 'contenders' to the regular MTT's that run at the moment (remember all ideas will be considered, but of course, not all ideas will be implemented)
Remember, this promotion is not scheduled to run for quite some time, but this thread seemed a good place to mention that it is coming...!
Please keep suggestions well balanced and calm, as the last thing I want is for it to be closed down after getting out of hand.
Let me know what you think
Thanks a lot,
Joe
When the Primo was a £33 tournament it used to get over 500 runners every week without fail and carried a £15K guarantee. Since the buy-in has been increased to £55 the average field has more than halved, just a few over 200 is the norm now (it was 204 this Sunday). Obviously the guarantee has been chipped away accordingly and is now down to £10K. Those numbers tell you all you need to know. In my opinion the shift to £55 can only be considered a failure.
You guys calling for more big stakes tournies are just gonna have to accept you're in a minority here, albeit a vocal minority. The silent majority have no interest in those games.
For you guys who said this is the wrong site for MTT grinders, Thats cool youve said that, You guys probably know other sites better. I started on Sky just couple of years back and have never played on another site until very recently. The other site seems very good, but due to the big numbers, only problem i will have is getting time to play a lot of them. Hence why i play on sky and to be honest only place ave played so all ive ever knew, Like lots of people on here, Also fact i do ok, its case of if its not broke dont fix it.
Maybey im same as Rock bit bored of same players, same rebuy tournys, same bounty hunters. Maybey bit bored of poker?.
I will just do same as Rocks and Bearly and play selected tournys now. I think a similar Sky Roller tournament wud be great Joe, even a smaller buy in and smaller gtd pool , if you dont want to have overlay. Also less rebuys id hope for, although not a problem keeping an add on if needed to help make cash up. Cheers
Decided to just stop giving action to certain bore.com regs
playing somewhere else where players actually do play some pokerz
Very diffcult to improve playing cash on SKY !
MTT's are fun though )
Watch the lobby this afternoon. One of the many daytime £2.30 Bounty Hunters will start at 2-15pm, the only £2.20 deepstack that runs all day will start just 5 minutes later at 2-20pm. I predict the Bounty Hunter will still attract more runners.
I'm pretty much in a +1 with Div's post. (both of them)
Limited experience elsewhere, getting a bit bored of the routine on here, becoming more selective in what I play, SKY remains my first choice but I feel less inclined to play as much as I used to, when I look at the MTT lobby some nights SKY Poker is losing it's appeal, though this could be just me and other reasons / other interests.
I thought the Monte Carlo TSP event, rekindled alot of the good things SKY's all about, though I felt SKY shot themselves in the foot by stopping the qualifier 10 days or so before the event. Interest was building, people seemed keen to get involved, but SKY closed the door too early in my opinion, poker players seem to love 'the last chance saloon' and I think there was a trick missed there.
Of course there were other way's to qualify for the DTD Monte Carlo and a number of SKY reg's went that way, but of no benefit to SKY, perhaps there were legal reasons for SKY not running sats closer to the event?
I think similar events where team TSP get involved and regs have a chance to sat their way in would be great, maybe even a return of the TSP mtt, with an associated league and TSP live seats as the reward?
Similar shooting in foot by SKY over VLV, there must be good reason for the lack of VLV, but whilst SKY hold back or are held back, there are other options and avenues to qualify for a Vegas package, none of which benefit SKY.
IMO, VLV has been getting bigger and better each year, I thought this year would see the biggest SKY team yet and spread the wings further, with added packages, the opportunity to get SKY players into a few of the many 'side' events leading up to the WSOP.
Again there are opportunities out there but not through SKY, personally if I was going to Vegas during the WSOP my first choice would be to try and win my way onto team SKY with Tikay in Vegas, but it seems the Vegas dream will have to take a different path.
UKOPS is good, but for me Christmas and Easter are not ideal times for me to be focusing on poker, perhaps my profile doesn't fit that of a typical poker player?
The SuperRoller is also a good addition, but it's once a month, so there is no guarantee I can play it regularly so I don't play sat's until I know what I'm doing.
Now if SKY run the SuperRoller more regularly and ran satellites where you win a seat to 'a SuperRoller of your choice' I would fully be committed to the event.
I recently qualified for the £110BH, then found I couldn't play, de-registered and had to apply some pressure to customer care to get them to refund my buy-in and I'm not going through that again!
Back to the nightly MTT's, I will try anything once, so any attempts to freshen up the schedule will be supported by me, I will certainly get involved with 'The Battle of the mains'.
Too many BH's and rebuys for my liking at the moment, the Thursday SKYRoller was quality, why not run it every week again, but have sats where you win 'a SKYRoller seat of your choice', put an expiry date on it so you don't have 'credits' sitting in peoples accounts for months, this would also stop people playing these sats just for the prize money and not taking their seats in the event.
How about a 10 seater main being part of 'The Battle'?