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Ah got a feelin

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  • CraigSG1CraigSG1 Member Posts: 1,832
    edited January 2014
    Regarding hand above I think it's too nitty to check behind given he has just called all the way. He could have a fair few hands he is 'Bluff catching' with. Had there been more action I think we can find a just call or check but from the passive line, no, I don't think you can get away. It's just a case of he's lucky you are as strong as you are. 
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited January 2014

    I wasn't sure last night.

    I was thinking what's he calling with 2 streets, 4 6 sprang into my head. I was thinking surely can't be a set/ 2 pair, has to be a draw. Really hate how villain played the hand. He flopped the world lol

    But definatly agree I had to shove the river, that was always the plan, so  stuck to the script!

    After a bad day yesterday I've made just under £50 today, another 10 days like this please :)

    Played another 4mtts tonight, didn't do anything in any of them apart from 3 bounties, run bad in mtts has to finish sometime!

    It's been about 2/3 weeks since I've had a deep run/ Final tabled in anything. Hopefully MTT run good is coming back soon... 

  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited January 2014
    Larson, in that hand you should also be considering what range the villain might be putting you on. You bet your set on the button, all good, but this can also look like you are either taking a stab in position after 2 checks or can be semi bluffing with a draw. Obviously in this instance it's flopped set vs flopped monster draw and the money was always going in at some point, but another time the villain can quite easily pay you off potentially quite lightly on the river if they put you on any number of missed draws. This is why I think it is always a shove for maximum value.


  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited January 2014

    Last couple of days have been really good.

    I played the main tonight, and ended up 25th for a smallish cash, exit hand was A5 with <10 bigs on the button, into the big blinds AQ.

    Got lucky in a hand just before the bubble, AJ all in over a short stack shove, guy in the small blind also shoves all in.

    Shortie had Ace 7, sb had Ace Ace, flop 910qx, river a K!

    Really like this tournie, it's a good laugh. Hadn't played it in ages till Diminuendo twisted my arm into playing it last week!

    Got a free seat into next weeks game as well through the show, always nice!

    Played cash for 2 hours aswell and ended up about 6 BI's up. Over the next few weeks, i'm going to try and build up £500 profit, and have a go again at some higher games, to hopefully move things along a bit. 

    This was my favourite hand of the night against a total maniac



    CuppaT Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £14.71
    Wakey_S Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.80
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • Q
         
    corRaise  £0.60 £0.75 £12.33
    big_andy18 Fold     
    LARSON7 Call  £0.60 £1.35 £24.04
    Scratville Fold     
    CuppaT Fold     
    Wakey_S Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • Q
    • 7
         
    cor Bet  £1.01 £2.36 £11.32
    LARSON7 Call  £1.01 £3.37 £23.03
    Turn
       
    • 4
         
    corBet  £1.69 £5.06 £9.63
    LARSON7 Call  £1.69 £6.75 £21.34
    River
       
    • 9
         
    cor All-in  £9.63 £16.38 £0.00
    LARSON7 Call  £9.63 £26.01 £11.71
    corShow
    • 6
    • 9
       
    LARSON7 Show
    • A
    • Q
       
    LARSON7 Win Pair of Queens £
     
  • golds95golds95 Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2014
    In Response to Re: Ah got a feelin:
    Might do a HU Challenge! Seem to be more interested in HU games, than 6 max cash or MTT's at the minute
    Posted by LARSON7
    You put any thought into this? If we can get a few forum regs i would most certainly be interested.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited January 2014
    I was just bored with other games at the time and decided I was goin 2 play hu sit and go turbos lol. Was thinking about playing 1000 to find out what my roi was. after about 150 I stopped playing them as intensively.

    When I said HU challenge I meant a personal one.

    I did really well over the games I played, my roi was about 8/10%, however they stopped been fun when I was "grinding" them.

    Plus from a money perspective, I make way more money playing cash.

    If you were interested in doing something mate, why don't you make a post of what you want to do?


  • golds95golds95 Member Posts: 132
    edited January 2014
    Just out of interest what stakes were you playing for that roi and yeah ill have a think about it over the next couple of days.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited January 2014
    £5 games mate
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014
    January was a funny month.

    I wasn't really that keen on cash at the start of the month so thought MTT's would be fun for a change.

    I don't know if i just ran bad or played bad, but i couldn't really get anything going in MTT's. The deepstacks i used to crush and FT for fun didn't go well. I was running bad, and in turn that resulted in bad play, tilt i suppose!

    I then decided i had enough with MTT's so was going to play a lot more HU games, sit and go's and cash.

    It went really well, my ROI for fiver sit and go turbos was about 8%-10%. I played over 100 games over a 3/4 day period. But it was a lot of "grinding" for not a lot of profit.

    So i ended up going back to cash the last 2 weeks of January.

    I played some really big games (for my bankroll).

    Firstly i played 2 £110 sit and gos against nosebleed_, it was just before i played the 100plus fiver sit and gos. Basically i was playing a lot of £1 games to try stuff out, i was playing with my game, seeing what would work not work. For example, i wasn't continuation betting as much, stuff like that. Small stuff.

    I seen a game in the lobby so i clicked register thinking it was a £1 game, not realising it was a £100 game. Luckily i won both these games.

    I also played a bit of 50nl, i lost 2 bi's in a night of madness. Basically i had a bit of a cooler with a set of 3s over a rivered straight. Lost 1 full buy in and tilted away another £50.

    Cash went really well last week, i was 20plus bi's up at 10nl. I thought this is an easy game! But i was running awesome.

    The last week has been a bit swingy, up and down. I've not been playing my best.

    I ended up withdrawing a lot of money at the start of the month/ lat December.

    My bankroll currently is about £800ish on sky. I don't know yet if i will be playing much on sky this month.

    I also have a bankroll of £500ish on another site aswell. Might give that site a go this month, just to see how it compares, and try and get that up to about 1k.

    Not really decided yet.

    This month if playing on sky, i'll prob be playing more 20nl over 10nl.

    Thank you for reading!
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014

    Not a lot has been happening with poker in the last few days. I'm up a small amount, but nothing to write home about.

    I won the 7:45 deepstack on Tuesday night as well, know it's only a small one but great feeling taking down a MTT. 3 handed i had 85% of the chips in play! The other 2 players were folding way 2 much/ not willing to get their chips in the middle, so my stack just kept growing and growing.

    Cash hasn't been going brilliant, i don't think i've been playing my best, and the cards havn't been great for me either.

    In the last 2 days, i got up to over £100 on a HU 20nl table, Tuesday was £140 at it's highest, yesterday was £110 at it's highest. On both occasions i managed to throw away a lot of this and left the tables with 75-80 and 60. Still a profit, but feels like a massive loss. I guess similiar to when we play a session end up down 5 bi's, then when them back.

    To me that feels like a big win! With these 2 examples, i feel like a threw money away.

    If i get up to 80 plus in future i'll probably just stand, and resit with £20 again. 

    I'm at the stage now where i'm going to be playing mostly 20nl. Going to start later on this week/ weekend. Wish me luck!
    ------------------------------------------

    The other site i'm on, not a big fan of their software. I've not put much volume in at all. There also seems to be a lot of nitty reg's! A lot more so than sky, it seems at any1 table there is 4 if not 5 players hardly playing a hand. On there i'm down about a tenner, will give it a few more chances and if it's not for me, i'll try else where. 

  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014
    Recap (Short but sweet)

    I played 4nl for the longest time ever. Pretty much all my time on the site until Oct November last year. Then i started playing 10nl. From June/ July last year to November i made quite a lot of money playing poker to give me a sizeable bankroll (for the stakes i was playing), it was the plan to play 20nl from December, i had over 100bi's for 10nl. I hadn't much experience of 10nl, so thought i'd be better playing this for a bit before moving up 2 20nl.

    During the summer of last year to November i had won quite a few £££ in MTT's which definatly helped bankroll.

    About December time (and before) i had started to make withdrawels. I was making withdrawels pretty much every day. Or every 2nd day at worst. Basically i kept my roll at a certain level and withdrew any profit i made.
     
    Eventually i decided i didn't need anywhere near the amount of money in my account and with drew down to £500, this was also after i had a stupid £100 losing day.
     
    I've decided i', not going to withdraw for a while and build things up.

    The future

    I'm now well rolled for 20nl.

    The plan is to make 80-100 bi's at this level, and at this point look at playing 50nl.
  • MP33MP33 Member Posts: 6,308
    edited February 2014
    Nice going Larson
    It doesn,t seem 2 minutes ago since you were mutli-tabling NL4

    GL
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014
    Thanks MP

    Yeah i think i played 4nl forever!

    It was a good training ground lol
  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited February 2014
    Hi Larson,

    Often read this diary but rarely post - those are some really impressive numbers!

    Given that you are essentially at the place I aspire to get to in poker - able to make a few reasonable withdrawals and comfortably play NL10 / mid-sized MTTs with the occasional shot at higher cash tables - can I ask what sort of time per month you have been dedicating to poker and what sort of split of time you take between playing : studying?

    While I could carry on playing NL10, I was just about holding my own there although not with a win rate like you, I've stepped back to the NL4 tables this year (albeit 8 of them, which sends my laptop mental at times) and am trying to avoid the temptation of MTTs so that I can try to focus on relearning cash from the very bottom.

    Also playing with a free trial of the pokersnowie software to try and spot some of my more daft leaks. Shame it can't pick up hand history from Sky (that I'm aware of), but playing the CPU has already highlighted a few issues which I credit with keeping me +ve since the drop to NL4.
  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited February 2014
    Aint posted/read this for ages, but seems like you're doing really well Larson.

    Fwiw Shakin, pokersnowie is all about learning to play GTO which imo won't even be close to the most optimal way of playing at microstakes. It's better to focus on exploiting the (big) mistakes that others will be making.
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014
    Hey Shakin and Lambert, thanks.

    Shakin, i play a few hours most days. Main way I "study" is really posting hand histories or discussing hand histories with others. Always interesting reading others hands as well.

    Fwiw, you have a good game, better than most of the 10nl "regs".

    I took up the freetrial on pokersnowie, really interesting piece of kit, loved playing poker snowie heads up, forgot my password after 2 days and havn't been on it sinse lol

    Agree with Paul that the biggest thing at 4nl or 10nl is exploiting the mistakes most people make and going for maximum value. Have a look at some of your winning hands, did you get max value from those hands?

    Have a look at (big) losing hands also and see what went wrong/ any mistakes you made, or was it just a cooler?

    Good luck with cash
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014

    Yesterday was really good was a £100 plus day.

    Started terrible i was down £40 in the 1st 10 mins at HU 50nl, got it in with the nut set on the turn versus opponents flush draw, which got there on the river!

    Yesterday, Profit at 10nl, Profit at 20nl, profit from HU 20nl, losses at 50nl HU, and 50nl capped games (£15)

    This was my last hand of the session, love this 1,

    pinocchio1 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £55.53
    darryl1976 Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £37.98
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    LARSON7 Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £49.44
    ness4 Fold     
    bbbeau Call  £0.60 £1.50 £4.07
    jcleggy24 Call  £0.60 £2.10 £19.40
    pinocchio1 Call  £0.50 £2.60 £55.03
    darryl1976 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • A
    • 5
    • K
         
    pinocchio1 Check     
    LARSON7 Bet  £1.95 £4.55 £47.49
    bbbeau Fold     
    jcleggy24 Call  £1.95 £6.50 £17.45
    pinocchio1 Fold     
    Turn
       
    • 2
         
    LARSON7 Bet  £4.88 £11.38 £42.61
    jcleggy24 Raise  £9.76 £21.14 £7.69
    LARSON7 All-in  £42.61 £63.75 £0.00
    jcleggy24 All-in  £7.69 £71.44 £0.00
    LARSON7 Unmatched bet  £30.04 £41.40 £30.04
    LARSON7 Show
    • A
    • K
       
    jcleggy24 Show
    • A
    • 2
       
    River
       
    • J
         
    LARSON7 Win Two Pairs, Aces and Kings £39.60
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited February 2014
    Sunday and Monday were really bad days, especially Sunday!

    I played a lot of HU games, i had my worse ever run in HU games.

    I've never experienced anything like it in HU games, i was on a downswing. The amount of times i got it in with a big ace against raggy ace for the rag to hit. This happened a lot. Don't get me wrong, i bit of bad play got involved as well, but over all i was just running terrible. Definatly my worse losing period at these games.

    In total, i dont even want to look just now, but in total i must have lost 8-10 games overall, which is a massive loss playing HU. Has never happened before, hopefully it stays that way.
  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited February 2014
    In Response to Re: Ah got a feelin:
    Sunday and Monday were really bad days, especially Sunday! I played a lot of HU games, i had my worse ever run in HU games. I've never experienced anything like it in HU games, i was on a downswing. The amount of times i got it in with a big ace against raggy ace for the rag to hit. This happened a lot. Don't get me wrong, i bit of bad play got involved as well, but over all i was just running terrible. Definatly my worse losing period at these games. In total, i dont even want to look just now, but in total i must have lost 8-10 games overall, which is a massive loss playing HU. Has never happened before, hopefully it stays that way.
    Posted by LARSON7
    MASSIVELY standard mate.

    if you've never had a spell like it then you've run golden.

    lots of these games end up coming down to 55/45 flips.  70/30 if you are lucky. doesn't take much negative variance to tip you into a 10 game losing streak - no matter how well you have played.

    throw in a few JJ v AA coolers and it feels like you'll never win another game lol.

    some people are different in how they react to these swings, i just embrace it and grind through till i [hopefully] show a profit for the session. volume is your friend if you can stay tilt free. if not then definately have a break and reset your mind.

    remember that all those sessions where you win 60-70% of your games are fuelled and pretty much dependent on you winning MORE than your fair share of these psuedo-flips. your edge as a good player will see you have a win rate of around 54-58% in low-mid stakes turbos. outside of that lies variance - good and bad.

    sounds weird and new age, but if you can do some simple breathing excercises after a beat and be aware of you're breathing and heartbeat you can definatley bring yourself out of any feelings of fustration / entitlement / rage whatever.

    ride it out, and run better mate.
  • nickd49931nickd49931 Member Posts: 124
    edited February 2014
    Great post Teddy and good advice. It happens larson just need to ride it out
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