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Blocked Sharkscope Stats

Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
edited August 2013 in Poker Chat
There's been a bit of discussion about this recently on a few threads and I just wondered what the general consensus is...

If you see someone has blocked their sharkscope graphs do you think....

1) They're a terrible player, ashamed of their stats
2) They're a very good player, wanting to disguise their skillz/profit
3) They're just a secretive person
4) No information can be taken from it.

And why?

Discuss.
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  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,115
    edited July 2013
    This could spark a decent debate mate.

    My personal view is that it could be any of them........but, I would be more inclined to go with the fact they are a losing player more than any of the others. No matter what anybody says, poker players have big egos (the vast majority of them anyway) and if someone is thousands in profit then I very much doubt they would block their stats. Some people say they block theirs to try and disguise but if you are a good player then there really is no need to imo.
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  • 12671267 Member Posts: 936
    edited July 2013
    The fact everyone keeps talking about and bringing up sharkscope makes me sad.
    Word then spreads about the site.
    Bad/very players get abused in chat after handing out a bad beat,  about their stats.

    They then realise how much money they have lost, and eventually end up quitting poker coz they realise it's costing them a fortune and it's no longer fun .... 

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  • DOHHHHHHHDOHHHHHHH Member Posts: 17,929
    edited July 2013
    95% a, 5% b, never c or d.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    I know what ya mean 1267, and people shouldn't be posting SS stats in a chatbox, mostly because it's just out of order and it's the old 'tapping the tank' thing, even if I could see someone was terrible just from watching (not checking SS) then I wouldn't tell them.... and on top of that, I'm pretty sure it's against the Ts & Cs of SS to post other people's stats in a public place without their permission.

    Maybe some block it, just to avoid that kinda cr ap then....

    I lean towards blocked stats = bad player, or at least bad sharkscope (maybe they're a good player now, but 3 years of being a bad player ruined their graph and they aint turned it round yet).
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited July 2013
    No idea.

    A guy I played the other day HU in a MTT had his blocked lol

    Thought he was a good player, apart from Bluffing with 3 8.

    Maybe Dohhh is right lol
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  • waller02waller02 Member Posts: 9,115
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    I know what ya mean 1267, and people shouldn't be posting SS stats in a chatbox, mostly because it's just out of order and it's the old 'tapping the tank' thing, even if I could see someone was terrible just from watching (not checking SS) then I wouldn't tell them.... and on top of that, I'm pretty sure it's against the Ts & Cs of SS to post other people's stats in a public place without their permission. Maybe some block it, just to avoid that kinda cr ap then.... I lean towards blocked stats = bad player, or at least bad sharkscope (maybe they're a good player now, but 3 years of being a bad player ruined their graph and they aint turned it round yet).
    Posted by Lambert180
    What do you make of people who reset their stats? What's the crack there? I know of a couple of players, good players at that, who have done this.
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    No idea. A guy I played the other day HU in a MTT had his blocked lol Thought he was a good player, apart from Bluffing with 3 8. Maybe Dohhh is right lol
    Posted by LARSON7
    I'll give you a tip now. Good players don't generally peel 83o OOP HU then just donk barrel 3 streets.... especially against stations that won't fold A-high ;)
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited July 2013
    all of the above^

    Even -ROI players can pick up AA :)

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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats : I'll give you a tip now. Good players don't generally peel 83o OOP HU then just donk barrel 3 streets.... especially against stations that won't fold A-high ;)
    Posted by Lambert180
    lol
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  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited July 2013
    Just waiting on CCF to wade in...
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  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited July 2013
    Eagrly awaits CCF post lol

    CCF for TOTP? :D
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  • JBussJBuss Member Posts: 245
    edited July 2013
    A few years ago, when I was just starting out, I played alot on PS. My graph was terrible. I stopped playing there for 18 months. Upon return, I decided to reset my graph so that it reflected how my current game was.

    I now, understand this defeats the object, and in turn my graph would look better when I execute my current game and start having good result. I do regret resetting my graph for PS.

    Jonathan
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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats : What do you make of people who reset their stats? What's the crack there? I know of a couple of players, good players at that, who have done this.
    Posted by waller02
    I can only think you'd do that to hide only rubbish stats as you're a different player than you were then.

    For instance, my SS would probably be better if it only covered the last 12 months as I'm better now than I was 3-4 years ago, but I still wouldn't reset them, just play your game, you'll turn it round and it'll be nice anyway to see what it was and what it is now, and a true reflection of your progress on a particular site.

    It's like when people say 'wooo I've spun up £100 into £300' but neglect to mention they've deposited £100 and busto'd 5 times previous to that. Obv it's your own business and you don't need to tell anyone but for me personally, I'm interested in how I'm actually doing in poker life-time not just 'look at this 2 week heater' where I did good, ignore everything else.
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  • gazza127gazza127 Member Posts: 2,156
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    As a matter of interest , isn't SS classed as a 3rd party software? Didn't think Sky supported 3rd party stuff? Just asking :-)
    Posted by VespaPX
    All the information is a available to the public.  If anyone wanted to go and do this by themselves they could... itd just take a lot of work.  They are a data mining site (i think thats right), so they just take the free data available to all and display it in ways noone else can be bothered to do by themselves and charge for it.

    Nothing to do with Skypoker.
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited July 2013
    usually because there losing but i can understand why good sit and go players might want to hide there stats paticularly the heads up players.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited July 2013
    why would a loosing player bother to subscribe to ss and block stats

    more likely a winning player who does very well and doesn't want the whole world knowing how much they going to crush


    + some people are just more secrative about how much money they win/lose -



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  • Lambert180Lambert180 Member Posts: 12,197
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    why would a loosing player bother to subscribe to ss and block stats more likely a winning player who does very well and doesn't want the whole world knowing how much they going to crush + some people are just more secrative about how much money they win/lose -
    Posted by rancid
    Maybe cos someone at the table says 'haha, look how bad your sharkscope is...' etc.

    Sorry, just playing devil's advocate :)
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  • THEROCK573THEROCK573 Member Posts: 2,550
    edited July 2013
    In Response to Re: Blocked Sharkscope Stats:
    why would a loosing player bother to subscribe to ss and block stats more likely a winning player who does very well and doesn't want the whole world knowing how much they going to crush + some people are just more secrative about how much money they win/lose -
    Posted by rancid
    becuase you have a lot of people on this forum what think there superstars, alot of them have big red lines and they are aware of this so they hide it.
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  • bencbenc Member Posts: 1,063
    edited July 2013
    In my experience playing HU the regs who block there stats are always awful and wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if they were -1k or more from the £5-£10 games. The rec players normally havn't heard of scope so don't care about blocking it and i can't imagine at the level i play their is any very good players who think they can gain an edge by blocking their stats ( i can actually think of one who i was not sure about in the past, he likes to speak his mind alot on the forum lol would be interested to know whether he was a winning player on scope). I have wanted to block my stats in the past but only so i wasn't obsessed with my line going in the right direction.
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  • rancidrancid Member Posts: 5,947
    edited July 2013
    funny game, I had a red line once - maybe it would be good to keep a bad graph so when you actually get better you can level every wally who uses SS )


    ss results are good for table/player selection, nothing else....

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