Smitalos you could be a politician. Ducking out of questions you dont want to answer. I was expecting at least a witty answer. No, nothing......... Huh, guess I am correct by default, which makes you incorrect, Alas I am sure your ego will not accept that. Posted by calcalfold
Woah, dude. Where did that come from? Man, consistantly reacting with emotion don't make anyone look good. At all.
Could you please point out the question(s) that' I've ducked out of answering? If there were any I missed in a seperate thread, I'm really sorry. There've been a fair few threads directed at me in the past week, in which I always try to reply in super-duper-uber detail. So any I've missed is at least understandable, no?
This thread should stay on topic. You have many threads already open in which to give me some sh it, use them.
And please, quit making every comeback personal. Winning an argument doesn't come from insulting the opposition.
EDIT [@19:59]: If... "Huh, guess I am correct by default, which makes you incorrect" is implying that... If you're taking a stance on a topic, (whether you're for or against a motion...) it should be assumed you're right until proven wrong? Because you have X number of points, you're right by default because the opposition has none?
Because that's obviously bull, bro It doesn't work that way IRL. You're wrong unless you can prove you're right. Not the other way around.
I would just like to comment on a Smitalos comment. "Those that think people SS you is a big deal and gives away a lot of information. When in fact, it doesn't. AT ALL"
So, would you rather play 100 heads up games against the player that has lost £15,000 playing heads up or won £15,000 heads up? say for arguments sake, same sample size and same buy ins.
Just to add, the information we have it choice to play a proven HU winner or a proven HU loser. I say thats pretty useful information. Dont you?
I would just like to comment on a Smitalos comment. "Those that think people SS you is a big deal and gives away a lot of information. When in fact, it doesn't. AT ALL" So, would you rather play 100 heads up games against the player that has lost £15,000 playing heads up or won £15,000 heads up? say for arguments sake, same sample size and same buy ins. Just to add, the information we have it choice to play a proven HU winner or a proven HU loser. I say thats pretty useful information. Dont you? Posted by calcalfold
The flaw in the argument is this...
You've said that your SS is good but you don't want people knowing how good.
Yes we'd rather play the guy who is -£15k so we'd choose NOT to play the guy who is +£15k, so if your (and I mean your in general, not specifically yours) SS is good, then you would want it on show so that good players avoid you... cos chances are the bad players aren't gonna be the ones skoping you.
I would just like to comment on a Smitalos comment. "Those that think people SS you is a big deal and gives away a lot of information. When in fact, it doesn't. AT ALL" So, would you rather play 100 heads up games against the player that has lost £15,000 playing heads up or won £15,000 heads up? say for arguments sake, same sample size and same buy ins. Posted by calcalfold
Straw-man.
My point had nothing to do with whether SS is accurate enough to draw reasonable conclusions from.
It was regarding the fact that the information you get from watching how they play, can be put to immediate profitable use. Whereas them being a winning player or not, tells you very little about HOW they actually play, what their bad tendancies are, or how to exploit them etc. That intel is cool to have, but serves you little use AT the tables. Long story short, the most important question is, WHY is someone good/bad, not whether they're a winner/loser. As said in my previous post, unless you're using SS to bumhunt, you'd generally speaking be much better off spending your time analysing their game, than analysing their SS graph.
My Sharkscope isnt good, Im pretty sure its breakeven. I just dont want my stats on show.
However if I was good. I would still hide it, not to say you are wrong or I am wrong.
Appreciate all the points you have raised and appreciate the points I have asked you on and that you have answered (unlike Mr Clegg up there), but we can agree to disagree here. Is that ok fella?
How has this guy not been ostracized from the community yet?
Every time he starts a discussion, and people try to open up a dialogue and explain why he's wrong, he just bails on the entire argument. Not to mention he throws around more schoolground insults than I throw around 3bets, Has an insanely condescending belitting attitude, finding new ways to abuse people he disagrees with, And never seems to be in the right, on any topic whatsoever.
All bearing in mind, the guy can't even beat 2p/4p.
What the ffff...?
I've replied to the guy and constantly tried to discuss things in a cordial manner. And almost every time, and he reacts like this:
Thanks for answering the question Mr Clegg, oh wait you didn..........lol Game set match ccf On ignore, waste too much time on you, plus you dont even admit when you are wrong, Boom Posted by calcalfold
Unless his entire account is a level, I've never seen someone so outwardly proud of their ignorance. It's like he's 13yo and feels the need to prove himself by getting one over Vs anyone that challenges him.
I hate to say this, but he's a disgrace to the forum. He just treats everyone on here like $h1t.
Grinding at the moment so haven't had a chance to have a good read through this thread. I have received a couple of messages though telling me I might need to close this thread. Will be coming back to it later but for now I'll just say please can everyone treat everyone else in the way you would wish to be treated yourself. With respect and intelligence please, thanks.
perhaps, it has nothing to do with how good or how bad they are. I aint blocked mine and you cant get worse than me at playing poker
Ever thought that may be related to real life and who can gain access to them as in a spouse(partner), money laundering, devorce suits etc (excuse spelling) . just my 2 pence worth
Yeh that's definitely a possibility, I don't know the answer to why people block them, I've seen a few blocked SSs in my time but CCF is the only one I've ever spoken to and so I don't know why most people do it.
The vote is really only going to show what observers think the reason for them being blocked is, but not the real reason why people do it.
Yeh that's definitely a possibility, I don't know the answer to why people block them, I've seen a few blocked SSs in my time but CCF is the only one I've ever spoken to and so I don't know why most people do it. The vote is really only going to show what observers think the reason for them being blocked is, but not the real reason why people do it. Posted by Lambert180
giraffe obession is doing it wrong, if your using SS more then twice in a week your doing it wrong. Especially for a site with such a small player pool.
Also forums seem to be full of a lot of vomit lately....
Yeh that's definitely a possibility, I don't know the answer to why people block them, I've seen a few blocked SSs in my time but CCF is the only one I've ever spoken to and so I don't know why most people do it. The vote is really only going to show what observers think the reason for them being blocked is, but not the real reason why people do it. Posted by Lambert180
Have you noticed that every thread you comment on, it kicks off paul .
Very good point re divorce mind, but if there was a lot of money on the line I think sharkscope would be obliged to reveal the figures to lawyers. Money Laundering isnt an issue as a lot of sites are required to verify you in the same way as the banks with id etc.
Can SS actually be trusted anyway, I won a b/h main event for £1800 including bounties and this doesn't show on my ss, who's to say it doesn't miss loads of other results?
Can SS actually be trusted anyway, I won a b/h main event for £1800 including bounties and this doesn't show on my ss, who's to say it doesn't miss loads of other results? Posted by omm
Ditto. Its not accurate, but can only be used to see if you are generally a winning/losing player.
I agree with most people I think it`s a mixed bag people that think better than what they are and block stats so they can make themselves and others think they are doing better than what they actually are. Someonealso said stts players hide their stats which is understandable they don`t want players not wanting to play them because they crush that level.
me personally I just use it really for a nosey my graph kinda sucks I know that aswell.I mainly play cash so does not keep track what I really care about,would be awesome though if there was something sky could do to track your own profit/loss and hands played from since you started and you could keep private if you wished don`t know if that be allowed though.
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Man, consistantly reacting with emotion don't make anyone look good. At all.
Could you please point out the question(s) that' I've ducked out of answering? If there were any I missed in a seperate thread, I'm really sorry. There've been a fair few threads directed at me in the past week, in which I always try to reply in super-duper-uber detail. So any I've missed is at least understandable, no?
This thread should stay on topic. You have many threads already open in which to give me some sh it, use them.
And please, quit making every comeback personal. Winning an argument doesn't come from insulting the opposition.
EDIT [@19:59]: If... "Huh, guess I am correct by default, which makes you incorrect" is implying that...
If you're taking a stance on a topic, (whether you're for or against a motion...) it should be assumed you're right until proven wrong? Because you have X number of points, you're right by default because the opposition has none?
Because that's obviously bull, bro
It doesn't work that way IRL. You're wrong unless you can prove you're right. Not the other way around.
So, would you rather play 100 heads up games against the player that has lost £15,000 playing heads up or won £15,000 heads up? say for arguments sake, same sample size and same buy ins.
Just to add, the information we have it choice to play a proven HU winner or a proven HU loser. I say thats pretty useful information. Dont you?
You've said that your SS is good but you don't want people knowing how good.
Yes we'd rather play the guy who is -£15k so we'd choose NOT to play the guy who is +£15k, so if your (and I mean your in general, not specifically yours) SS is good, then you would want it on show so that good players avoid you... cos chances are the bad players aren't gonna be the ones skoping you.
My point had nothing to do with whether SS is accurate enough to draw reasonable conclusions from.
It was regarding the fact that the information you get from watching how they play, can be put to immediate profitable use. Whereas them being a winning player or not, tells you very little about HOW they actually play, what their bad tendancies are, or how to exploit them etc. That intel is cool to have, but serves you little use AT the tables.
Long story short, the most important question is, WHY is someone good/bad, not whether they're a winner/loser.
As said in my previous post, unless you're using SS to bumhunt, you'd generally speaking be much better off spending your time analysing their game, than analysing their SS graph.
Game set match ccf
On ignore, waste too much time on you, plus you dont even admit when you are wrong,
Boom
My Sharkscope isnt good, Im pretty sure its breakeven. I just dont want my stats on show.
However if I was good. I would still hide it, not to say you are wrong or I am wrong.
Appreciate all the points you have raised and appreciate the points I have asked you on and that you have answered (unlike Mr Clegg up there), but we can agree to disagree here. Is that ok fella?
No point this turning into War and Peace
ccf
Every time he starts a discussion, and people try to open up a dialogue and explain why he's wrong, he just bails on the entire argument.
Not to mention he throws around more schoolground insults than I throw around 3bets,
Has an insanely condescending belitting attitude, finding new ways to abuse people he disagrees with,
And never seems to be in the right, on any topic whatsoever.
All bearing in mind, the guy can't even beat 2p/4p.
What the ffff...?
I've replied to the guy and constantly tried to discuss things in a cordial manner. And almost every time, and he reacts like this: Unless his entire account is a level, I've never seen someone so outwardly proud of their ignorance. It's like he's 13yo and feels the need to prove himself by getting one over Vs anyone that challenges him.
I hate to say this, but he's a disgrace to the forum. He just treats everyone on here like $h1t.
perhaps, it has nothing to do with how good or how bad they are. I aint blocked mine
and you cant get worse than me at playing poker
Ever thought that may be related to real life and who can gain access to them
as in a spouse(partner), money laundering, devorce suits etc (excuse spelling)
.
just my 2 pence worth
The vote is really only going to show what observers think the reason for them being blocked is, but not the real reason why people do it.
But generally when I check and see blocked I mutter the word TO SS ER to myself