A lot of players mistrust Online poker, & that's fine. But if they don't trust it......err, don't play it. It's really that simple. I dislike Asda, so I had this great idea - don't shop there. What's so hard to understand?
Many of them, of course, are just trolling. We have a troll in the PLO8 games here, as it happens. A mean, nasty individual. He sometimes asks "why don't you lot speak to me?". Tricky one, that.
Gala Notts? Wow, there were some characters there. You probably knew, & still know, Ali Bag of Bo**ox, he still plays at DTD. He was a rabbit-hunter, always turned over the burn cards. "Look, I would have won".
How can you ever explain such thinking?
And when people talk about Online poker is rigged, & it never happens live.....That cash game there was the most bent game ever ever ever. Genuinely rigged. Cost me a few bob to realise, mind. "The Doc" remember him, Doc Makywana (sp), from India, showed me how that rigged shuffle was done. He showed me 4 times, just me & him, & I still could not see how he was doing it. But he could GUARANTEE the river would beat my hand.
The Tourneys were self-deal, too. That kid who was dealing off the bottom had just been released from Prison for a £2 million VAT fraud.
And I see all these threads on here "you never see bent stuff in Live Poker". Are you kidding me? But, of course, I'm obliged to reply politely.
At Colyear St Derby, Gala Notts & Gutshot, to name but three, the Card Room Manager was skimming buy-ins off the prize pool, just pocketing them. I discovered it by totting up the chips in play on the Final Table, & comparing the total with the theoretical total, with an allowance for colouring up. One night at Gala, I refused to allow the Final Table to start until the shortfall was made up. I sure was popular.
I had a £10,000 bink at Gutshot (thin....) & it took me three weeks to get paid. Meanwhile, the kid who had 20% of me wanted paying immediately. Marv.
It's beyond my comprehension that people think Sky Poker even have the ability to rig things, never mind the will. The Business was sold for £800 million 9 months ago, & is almost certainly worth double that now. And people think, to nick a Reg Fee of a quid or whatever Sky Poker would risk £x billion?
There is an adjective for these people, but I'd best not risk it.
Well I got my rear end handed to me on a plate again last night, incred stuff.
Played 3 sets of 15 games, lost the first 7-8, lost the second 7-8, & shaded the third 8-7, ending up losing by 22-23.
Luckily it was almost all £3 games (36), or the damage may have been far worse. Only one £11er ran, it was very quiet, & of course I lost that, too. Overall I only lost £21, & I'm still £40 up on the week, so not a disaster, but what an intriguing thing variance is. I'm never quite sure if I'm a good player who runs bad sometimes, or a bad player who runs good sometimes.
It was comical at times, nights like that usually are. I trapped my friend Dave Norsden (KidGrimsby) all ends up with the nut flush on the turn, & he turned a set of kings so could not fold. Cue the rivered quad kings, oooohhh.
Then I had a set to with our mate cheezy, who raised with something like A-2-2-7 against my Aces. The all high flop killed him stone dead, until a pesky 2 rivered him his set, oioi.
In neither case did either player do a thing wrong.
A new Poster to the Community today - always good to see - won my little private exclamation/question mark bingo card, he got the lot on his first day.
Every single sentence ended with an "!" or a "?", but it got better.
He had consecutive sentences ending in the old triple "!!!" jobbie, as well as a "???".
That's called a triple double double, like a triple salko but better.
Incred scenes. How long will that record last, who will beat that, & when?
Never mind the 992 milly noise, this beats that hands down.
Last week seemed a bit uphill, bad timing, bad play, bad run, whatever, so I was pleasantly surprised after I did a tot-up to see I'd earned a profit of £54. I'd take that every week.
Less pleasingly, that took my 2016 profit too precisely.....£12.01.
I've no idea what's going on, tbh. I've no idea if I'm starting a downswing, ending an upswing, both, or neither. It does not matter really, as long as I enjoy myself, which I still do.
This week has been much the same. Won 12 from the first 15 one night, & then lost 11 of the next 15. I'm sort of treading water.
Quick Update. Last week seemed a bit uphill, bad timing, bad play, bad run, whatever, so I was pleasantly surprised after I did a tot-up to see I'd earned a profit of £54. I'd take that every week. Less pleasingly, that took my 2016 profit too precisely.....£12.01. I've no idea what's going on, tbh. I've no idea if I'm starting a downswing, ending an upswing, both, or neither. It does not matter really, as long as I enjoy myself, which I still do. This week has been much the same. Won 12 from the first 15 one night, & then lost 11 of the next 15. I'm sort of treading water. On we go. Posted by Tikay10
I'ts been spotted on more than one occasion that you seem to be playing a lot looser than usual do you think this might be causing the swings
Possibly, yes. I experiment all the time with ranges & strategy.
Having said that, these things are relative, & "a lot looser" is subjective, given how dreadfully nitty & tight I am. I actually doubled up in two DYM's in Level One last night. Never been known, though both were total gifts.
^^^^ Possibly, yes. I experiment all the time with ranges & strategy. Having said that, these things are relative, & "a lot looser" is subjective, given how dreadfully nitty & tight I am. I actually doubled up in two DYM's in Level One last night. Never been known, though both were total gifts. Posted by Tikay10
That's interesting to a learner like me do you make these decisions based on the player you are playing or is it pre planed before you start the game I find myself once I start something it's hard to change mid game thinking I have built a big enough stack to survive and parking the bus then when I need to get busy again and I start second guessing myself ultimately leading to bad decisions
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : That's interesting to a learner like me do you make these decisions based on the player you are playing or is it pre planed before you start the game I find myself once I start something it's hard to change mid game thinking I have built a big enough stack to survive and parking the bus then when I need to get busy again and I start second guessing myself ultimately leading to bad decisions Posted by weecheez1
It's dependant on a basket of things - my stack size relative to the blinds, how many players left, my perception of my opponents likely range, etc.
At some point, we are usually going to get the lot in, & these are the critical decisions. This is very opponent dependant. Whilst there are loads of better players than me, none of them scare me, but I'm very picky as to who I "flip" with.
For example, if Macacgirl (or a handful of others I won't name) pots it first, then we KNOW, 100%, assuming sensible stack sizes, she has a proper BALANCED hand. Balanced hands are key. To take those on, after they have opened, we need to be VERY strong or vey desperate. Better to wait for a weaker (but still balanced) hand & be the opener. We'll get looked up by some really weird hands at times, but I'm generally in good shape. If a good player looks me up, I need to get lucky, as they will have better. Always. Good players don't waste chips.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : That's interesting to a learner like me do you make these decisions based on the player you are playing or is it pre planed before you start the game I find myself once I start something it's hard to change mid game thinking I have built a big enough stack to survive and parking the bus then when I need to get busy again and I start second guessing myself ultimately leading to bad decisions Posted by weecheez1
That's a very important part of DYM strategy maybe more important than hand ranges.
If you don't mind me mentioning this, you had me scratching my head last night.
It was 4 or 5 handed, 150-300 I think, both of us were locked for the win, I had 3,500, you had 4,000. Play this cute & we're home & hosed.
You were to my immediate left, & I was "walking you" from the SB every time. I don't waste chips in the SB, better to pass, but at 150-300, it's only raise or pass, never "make up", & if I'm a big stack, I don't go to war with the other big stack, I concentrate on the shorties.
So I potted an unopened pot from the SB, I forget my hand, but it was extremely strong, &, naturally, it contained an Ace, maybe two, I don't exactly recall. (I don't open without an ace unless desperate). And you re-potted me.
Now I must have been strong, as I potted again, & we got it in.
I was really surprised at your hand - something like K-Q-10-6. Deffo did not contain a Low, or an Ace. Anyway, the point is, did you ask these two questions before taking me on:
1) Is my hand likely to be ahead of his?
2) Do I NEED to fight the other big stack at this juncture?
Watch Macac, when she has 3,000 or 4,000, she just "walks" the BB. But if she raises, beware.......
Anyway, iirc, it all ended well & you fought back. It's these hands which make the difference between profit & loss.
Hope you don't mind me telling the story, & that I recalled it correctly, but you seem keen to learn. And that was, if I may say so, a very odd play. Over time, that sort of play will cost you plenty.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : That's a very important part of DYM strategy maybe more important than hand ranges. If you don't mind me mentioning this, you had me scratching my head last night. It was 4 or 5 handed, 150-300 I think, both of us were locked for the win, I had 3,500, you had 4,000. Play this cute & we're home & hosed. You were to my immediate left, & I was "walking you" from the SB every time. I don't waste chips in the SB, better to pass, but at 150-300, it's only raise or pass, never "make up", & if I'm a big stack, I don't go to war with the other big stack, I concentrate on the shorties. So I potted an unopened pot from the SB, I forget my hand, but it was extremely strong, &, naturally, it contained an Ace, maybe two, I don't exactly recall. (I don't open without an ace unless desperate). And you re-potted me. Now I must have been strong, as I potted again, & we got it in. I was really surprised at your hand - something like K-Q-10-6. Deffo did not contain a Low, or an Ace. Anyway, the point is, did you ask these two questions before taking me on: 1) Is my hand likely to be ahead of his? 2) Do I NEED to fight the other big stack at this juncture? Watch Macac, when she has 3,000 or 4,000, she just "walks" the BB. But if she raises, beware....... Anyway, iirc, it all ended well & you fought back. It's these hands which make the difference between profit & loss. Hope you don't mind me telling the story, & that I recalled it correctly, but you seem keen to learn. And that was, if I may say so, a very odd play. Over time, that sort of play will cost you plenty. Posted by Tikay10
Not at all that's why I post so much I still have a brag mentality when I play. it's something that I really need to address that it's not personal when someone raises your BB I am getting there slowly but surely and I guess there will be plenty mistakes to come lol
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Not at all that's why I post so much I still have a brag mentality when I play. it's something that I really need to address that it's not personal when someone raises your BB I am getting there slowly but surely and I guess there will be plenty mistakes to come lol Posted by weecheez1
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It's abso NOT personal when I do that from the SB, only to the extend that I'm not interested in your chips, as we both have plenty. I'm interested in conserving my stack, so I have to be huge in this spot.
If I had 1,000 more, I'd have folded pre. No need to risk anything, steady as she goes.
If Lady Karen graces this thread with her considerable presence, she'll tell you how she regularly folds Aces in that spot. Quite rightly, too.
I was trying to attack a shortie a few nights ago, & between me & he was one of THE best players on the site, but not exactly the nicest man on the site.
I had plenty, he had even more, & he knew "fold" was correct. He's VERY good, trust me.
He one tables, & concentrates, & so always "acts" promptly.
And the clock was going down, & that going round thing was going round, & he did nothing.......
Now I know the coup exactly, 100%. He has the Aces, & he's doing his usual slowroll.
At the last moment, he types "good luck" in the chatbox, (just lol) now we know for sure his hand, & in they all go.
I'm resigned to my fate, it happens, & he has me all locked up at both ends. But Lady Variance had been watching, & she decided to be kind, & I scooped.
Incidentally, this defending your BB because "it's personal" is extremely common, you are far from alone. One of our good friends has the same issue, he can't help himself, but we're gonna get him sorted.
If it helps encourage anyone who is enduring a tough ride at the moment........
I head into today £46 DOWN on the week, & £36 DOWN on the month. That's after a £400 profit from the period October to December.
Why? Not quite sure, but I'm definitely playing bad, & part of this comes from running bad. I've looked at it objectively, & I can't see any other reason for it.
I got a little down last night after Mr Wet Blanket - "you are all colluding" - made more negative comments last night.
It just saddens me that there are people out there who never have a nice, or positive, thing to say about anything or anyone.
This chap rarely speaks in the chatbox, & never encourages others who are having a bad time, or unlucky, he just makes nasty, mean-spirited comments about everything.
He must be some piece of work in real life. Imagine being sat next to him on a 10 hour flight.
He's a very good player, no doubt about that, but I've never been keen on "snipers", glass half full types.
One kid last night recovered from half a BB to become chippie, & I typed "nice recovery m8, vwp".
Mr Wet Blanket followed up with - "not at all, he played terrible & just got lucky".
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A lot of players mistrust Online poker, & that's fine. But if they don't trust it......err, don't play it. It's really that simple. I dislike Asda, so I had this great idea - don't shop there. What's so hard to understand?
Many of them, of course, are just trolling. We have a troll in the PLO8 games here, as it happens. A mean, nasty individual. He sometimes asks "why don't you lot speak to me?". Tricky one, that.
Gala Notts? Wow, there were some characters there. You probably knew, & still know, Ali Bag of Bo**ox, he still plays at DTD. He was a rabbit-hunter, always turned over the burn cards. "Look, I would have won".
How can you ever explain such thinking?
And when people talk about Online poker is rigged, & it never happens live.....That cash game there was the most bent game ever ever ever. Genuinely rigged. Cost me a few bob to realise, mind. "The Doc" remember him, Doc Makywana (sp), from India, showed me how that rigged shuffle was done. He showed me 4 times, just me & him, & I still could not see how he was doing it. But he could GUARANTEE the river would beat my hand.
The Tourneys were self-deal, too. That kid who was dealing off the bottom had just been released from Prison for a £2 million VAT fraud.
And I see all these threads on here "you never see bent stuff in Live Poker". Are you kidding me? But, of course, I'm obliged to reply politely.
At Colyear St Derby, Gala Notts & Gutshot, to name but three, the Card Room Manager was skimming buy-ins off the prize pool, just pocketing them. I discovered it by totting up the chips in play on the Final Table, & comparing the total with the theoretical total, with an allowance for colouring up. One night at Gala, I refused to allow the Final Table to start until the shortfall was made up. I sure was popular.
I had a £10,000 bink at Gutshot (thin....) & it took me three weeks to get paid. Meanwhile, the kid who had 20% of me wanted paying immediately. Marv.
It's beyond my comprehension that people think Sky Poker even have the ability to rig things, never mind the will. The Business was sold for £800 million 9 months ago, & is almost certainly worth double that now. And people think, to nick a Reg Fee of a quid or whatever Sky Poker would risk £x billion?
There is an adjective for these people, but I'd best not risk it.
Well I got my rear end handed to me on a plate again last night, incred stuff.
Played 3 sets of 15 games, lost the first 7-8, lost the second 7-8, & shaded the third 8-7, ending up losing by 22-23.
Luckily it was almost all £3 games (36), or the damage may have been far worse. Only one £11er ran, it was very quiet, & of course I lost that, too. Overall I only lost £21, & I'm still £40 up on the week, so not a disaster, but what an intriguing thing variance is. I'm never quite sure if I'm a good player who runs bad sometimes, or a bad player who runs good sometimes.
It was comical at times, nights like that usually are. I trapped my friend Dave Norsden (KidGrimsby) all ends up with the nut flush on the turn, & he turned a set of kings so could not fold. Cue the rivered quad kings, oooohhh.
Then I had a set to with our mate cheezy, who raised with something like A-2-2-7 against my Aces. The all high flop killed him stone dead, until a pesky 2 rivered him his set, oioi.
In neither case did either player do a thing wrong.
"That's it, I'm never playing the game again."
See you all later, might start early.
A new Poster to the Community today - always good to see - won my little private exclamation/question mark bingo card, he got the lot on his first day.
Every single sentence ended with an "!" or a "?", but it got better.
He had consecutive sentences ending in the old triple "!!!" jobbie, as well as a "???".
That's called a triple double double, like a triple salko but better.
Incred scenes. How long will that record last, who will beat that, & when?
Never mind the 992 milly noise, this beats that hands down.
Quick Update.
Last week seemed a bit uphill, bad timing, bad play, bad run, whatever, so I was pleasantly surprised after I did a tot-up to see I'd earned a profit of £54. I'd take that every week.
Less pleasingly, that took my 2016 profit too precisely.....£12.01.
I've no idea what's going on, tbh. I've no idea if I'm starting a downswing, ending an upswing, both, or neither. It does not matter really, as long as I enjoy myself, which I still do.
This week has been much the same. Won 12 from the first 15 one night, & then lost 11 of the next 15. I'm sort of treading water.
On we go.
^^^^
Possibly, yes. I experiment all the time with ranges & strategy.
Having said that, these things are relative, & "a lot looser" is subjective, given how dreadfully nitty & tight I am. I actually doubled up in two DYM's in Level One last night. Never been known, though both were total gifts.
At some point, we are usually going to get the lot in, & these are the critical decisions. This is very opponent dependant. Whilst there are loads of better players than me, none of them scare me, but I'm very picky as to who I "flip" with.
For example, if Macacgirl (or a handful of others I won't name) pots it first, then we KNOW, 100%, assuming sensible stack sizes, she has a proper BALANCED hand. Balanced hands are key. To take those on, after they have opened, we need to be VERY strong or vey desperate. Better to wait for a weaker (but still balanced) hand & be the opener. We'll get looked up by some really weird hands at times, but I'm generally in good shape. If a good player looks me up, I need to get lucky, as they will have better. Always. Good players don't waste chips.
If you don't mind me mentioning this, you had me scratching my head last night.
It was 4 or 5 handed, 150-300 I think, both of us were locked for the win, I had 3,500, you had 4,000. Play this cute & we're home & hosed.
You were to my immediate left, & I was "walking you" from the SB every time. I don't waste chips in the SB, better to pass, but at 150-300, it's only raise or pass, never "make up", & if I'm a big stack, I don't go to war with the other big stack, I concentrate on the shorties.
So I potted an unopened pot from the SB, I forget my hand, but it was extremely strong, &, naturally, it contained an Ace, maybe two, I don't exactly recall. (I don't open without an ace unless desperate). And you re-potted me.
Now I must have been strong, as I potted again, & we got it in.
I was really surprised at your hand - something like K-Q-10-6. Deffo did not contain a Low, or an Ace. Anyway, the point is, did you ask these two questions before taking me on:
1) Is my hand likely to be ahead of his?
2) Do I NEED to fight the other big stack at this juncture?
Watch Macac, when she has 3,000 or 4,000, she just "walks" the BB. But if she raises, beware.......
Anyway, iirc, it all ended well & you fought back. It's these hands which make the difference between profit & loss.
Hope you don't mind me telling the story, & that I recalled it correctly, but you seem keen to learn. And that was, if I may say so, a very odd play. Over time, that sort of play will cost you plenty.
It's abso NOT personal when I do that from the SB, only to the extend that I'm not interested in your chips, as we both have plenty. I'm interested in conserving my stack, so I have to be huge in this spot.
If I had 1,000 more, I'd have folded pre. No need to risk anything, steady as she goes.
If Lady Karen graces this thread with her considerable presence, she'll tell you how she regularly folds Aces in that spot. Quite rightly, too.
I was trying to attack a shortie a few nights ago, & between me & he was one of THE best players on the site, but not exactly the nicest man on the site.
I had plenty, he had even more, & he knew "fold" was correct. He's VERY good, trust me.
He one tables, & concentrates, & so always "acts" promptly.
And the clock was going down, & that going round thing was going round, & he did nothing.......
Now I know the coup exactly, 100%. He has the Aces, & he's doing his usual slowroll.
At the last moment, he types "good luck" in the chatbox, (just lol) now we know for sure his hand, & in they all go.
I'm resigned to my fate, it happens, & he has me all locked up at both ends. But Lady Variance had been watching, & she decided to be kind, & I scooped.
BOOMIO Mr Slow-Roller.
Now that's personal.
Incidentally, this defending your BB because "it's personal" is extremely common, you are far from alone. One of our good friends has the same issue, he can't help himself, but we're gonna get him sorted.
If it helps encourage anyone who is enduring a tough ride at the moment........
I head into today £46 DOWN on the week, & £36 DOWN on the month. That's after a £400 profit from the period October to December.
Why? Not quite sure, but I'm definitely playing bad, & part of this comes from running bad. I've looked at it objectively, & I can't see any other reason for it.
Soldier on........
I got a little down last night after Mr Wet Blanket - "you are all colluding" - made more negative comments last night.
It just saddens me that there are people out there who never have a nice, or positive, thing to say about anything or anyone.
This chap rarely speaks in the chatbox, & never encourages others who are having a bad time, or unlucky, he just makes nasty, mean-spirited comments about everything.
He must be some piece of work in real life. Imagine being sat next to him on a 10 hour flight.
He's a very good player, no doubt about that, but I've never been keen on "snipers", glass half full types.
One kid last night recovered from half a BB to become chippie, & I typed "nice recovery m8, vwp".
Mr Wet Blanket followed up with - "not at all, he played terrible & just got lucky".
Lovely piece of work.