Saw this thread this morning and thought I must be missing something here, what was Tikay doing in hand with that rubbish? (???, ???? just for effect) Then realised you had limped. As greater minds than mine have said that, my friend, was your undoing. Posted by Enut
Is there really any need for that childish uneducated stupidity?
Saturday morning, everyone is chilling, & then you rev me up with that stuff.
Get outa here.
I got an e-mail yesterday, 5 sentences, 5 exclamation marks,. What DO they teach kids at school these days? Certainly not written English.
Regarding line of thinking, I lost one last night that I don't understand at all. I can't remember the blind level, it wasn't late though as I was the first player out the game. I flopped the (made, not draw) nut flush alongside a nut low draw, it all went pot-pot-pot-pot until they were all-in and my opponent turned over 2 pair, no low draw. Irrespective of the fact he hit his house and scooped, I'd love to know what he thought I had and why he played it like that. Posted by Macacgirl1
You & I are very alike in these things. Play 30 DYM's a day, lose between 12 & 18 of them, day after day, so it's not like we are bothered by a beat here & there. we'll lose thousands of DYM's this year, so losing one is not even an irritation.
But the "what were they thinking?" absolutely intrigues me.
I got called last night, effectively all-in - we both had playable stacks by 10-8-8-2. That ranks as 4,953rd out of 5,300 hands in the PLO8 Hand Rankings.
Why would anyone think that made sense, & would win more often that it would lose?
God bless these guys, they are our long term profit, but I'd love to understand the thinking.
In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks? : Ego, alcohol and an E-Number driven inability to fold. I'm much more inclined to think it's an ego/lack of understanding of standard dym play, rather than setting up an image for later. Just my opinion, but I'm usually bang on the money. Unless I'm totally wrong and talking out my doofer. Obviously. Posted by Macacgirl1
Agree i should have raised pre but have been limping more lately as was just losing too much when being too aggressive(hand kind of shows that) and it seems too be working a bit better for me and in my defense i just insta reraised then looked and seen it was you sigh if had looked at who was in hand i would have more than likely just called and seen another card think maybe playing tourneys and dyms at same time does not help much as well. Think this might be the hand with eon think i seen it as a good solid high hand and everyone knows the big stack always wins lol no just seen this as a good hand for heads up and it seemed a good spot too defend with as would still have 7 bbs left if it went wrong. Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance tikay1 Small blind 150.00 150.00 1540.00 churchy18 Big blind 300.00 450.00 3280.00 Your hole cards 4 K J Q eon1961 Raise 1050.00 1500.00 457.50 HOVIS684 Fold aub Fold tikay1 Fold churchy18 Raise 1500.00 3000.00 1780.00 eon1961 All-in 457.50 3457.50 0.00 churchy18 Unmatched bet 292.50 3165.00 2072.50 churchy18 Show 4 K J Q eon1961 Show 7 5 A 3 Flop 9 2 J Turn 2 River 10 churchy18 Win high Straight to the King 3165.00 5237.50 No qualifying low hand Posted by churchy18
Would you, or more importantly should you, play J4, Q4 and K4 in that position in holdem? You have no low potential and half of your two card combos are not particularly good. Again just my opinion and I am by no means an expert like Tikay and Macca etc, but I would fold here.
"....Think this might be the hand with eon think i seen it as a good solid high hand and everyone knows the big stack always wins lol no just seen this as a good hand for heads up and it seemed a good spot too defend with as would still have 7 bbs left if it went wrong...."
Not sure I can buy into that, Brian. For starters, you have 4 cards,& Eon has five - his Ace plays BOTH ways, so you start at a disadvantage.
I've never seen Eon (in this exact spot) get it in without an Ace in his hand so that GUARANTEES you need to outdraw him.
Anyway, enough opinions, here's the facts.
Your hand SCOOPS 29% of the time
His hand SCOOPS 48% of the time
Your hand wins the HIGH 51% of the time
His hand wins the HIGH 49% of the time.
Your hand wins the LOW 0% of the time.
His hand wins the LOW 60% of the time.
Overall equity pre-flop - YOUR hand 40%, HIS hand 60%.
So, taking all that into account, lets go back to that first mistake thing we discussed this morning.
One player is OUT
One player is AWAY
One player is roffling around in every pot.
You have 3,300 chips.
I have around 1,200.
Do we NEED to get involved with this very marginal hand, or can we await a better spot? We might not even need to play another hand. Once AWAY man disappears, that's 3 Big stacks, + me trundling along with 4 Bigs, & guaranteed to widen my range & take a stab shortly.
In your spot, I'd be sitting nice & quietly here. We don't get any extra for having most chips. In a 6 Max, yes, in a DYM, no.
Tony, sorry for the derail, but I wasn't sure where to ask this.
Please can you ask if there would be any chance of trialling some low stakes turbo PLO8 sit and goes?
I know they won't appeal to the purists like yourself, but they are offered in holdem and omaha.
I think they may help broaden the appeal of the game to holdem players who can't or don't want to commit 35/40minutes to a game, but who could afford 8/10 minutes?
For some reason I'm having a dog of an ordeal trying to access the site, either through the browser or download. Not sure what's going on, but it ain't half weird.
Anyways, we're away on the 13th, so if I manage to get on the site my last time playing until the winter will be this Friday. If I'm still unable to get onboard, I'll use this opportunity to say bye bye for now. All the best everyone, it's been a pleasure, keep on plopping on and all that. Seeya all late October, early November time.
Karen
xx
ps. The site needs someone to spite-call TK whilst I'm away. Thanks in advance.
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Oh yes, well done hendo, he's coming to the UKPC from a chuffing FREEROLL.
Gt8 stuff, or, to use his own word...
sigh
Saturday morning, everyone is chilling, & then you rev me up with that stuff.
Get outa here.
I got an e-mail yesterday, 5 sentences, 5 exclamation marks,. What DO they teach kids at school these days? Certainly not written English.
But the "what were they thinking?" absolutely intrigues me.
I got called last night, effectively all-in - we both had playable stacks by 10-8-8-2. That ranks as 4,953rd out of 5,300 hands in the PLO8 Hand Rankings.
Why would anyone think that made sense, & would win more often that it would lose?
God bless these guys, they are our long term profit, but I'd love to understand the thinking.
"....Think this might be the hand with eon think i seen it as a good solid high hand and everyone knows the big stack always wins lol no just seen this as a good hand for heads up and it seemed a good spot too defend with as would still have 7 bbs left if it went wrong...."
Not sure I can buy into that, Brian. For starters, you have 4 cards,& Eon has five - his Ace plays BOTH ways, so you start at a disadvantage.
I've never seen Eon (in this exact spot) get it in without an Ace in his hand so that GUARANTEES you need to outdraw him.
Anyway, enough opinions, here's the facts.
Your hand SCOOPS 29% of the time
His hand SCOOPS 48% of the time
Your hand wins the HIGH 51% of the time
His hand wins the HIGH 49% of the time.
Your hand wins the LOW 0% of the time.
His hand wins the LOW 60% of the time.
Overall equity pre-flop - YOUR hand 40%, HIS hand 60%.
So, taking all that into account, lets go back to that first mistake thing we discussed this morning.
One player is OUT
One player is AWAY
One player is roffling around in every pot.
You have 3,300 chips.
I have around 1,200.
Do we NEED to get involved with this very marginal hand, or can we await a better spot? We might not even need to play another hand. Once AWAY man disappears, that's 3 Big stacks, + me trundling along with 4 Bigs, & guaranteed to widen my range & take a stab shortly.
In your spot, I'd be sitting nice & quietly here. We don't get any extra for having most chips. In a 6 Max, yes, in a DYM, no.
Andrew, Karen - will reply tomorrow.