Played 2 @ £11 early doors, lost them both, & as not many of them run, & they "skew" the numbers being worth so much more than the bulk of them, things were looking grim. On top of that, was not feeling so good, or "feeling" the game, so was on the point of drawing stumps early.
But slowly-wowly, it began to turn. Just 2 more ran @ £11 before I quit, & I won both of them, to end up all square on them, & a mini-profit on the night. Phew, result.
The 2 @ £11 I managed to "win" were both absolute corkers, in both cases the line-up included aggro hot-shots hotwheals & JACEON, as well as Tuney who can be a right handful, but has a different style.
I managed a near 2xUp early on in one, when I check-called a lad every street but missed the lot - but to my amazement, the chips slid across to me, & I'd won with A-high! A-high scoops in PLO8, what?!
So, armed with a healthy stack, I decided to fight fire with fire & played really aggro, sort of retaliating first. Makes such a difference to have a big stack, you can really pile the coals on. I only eased off when we were 4 handed, 3 big stacks & a shortie. Makes no sense to take the Big Stacks on when there is a shortie in town. All three of us understood that. Nothing said in the chatbox, but good players know these things & don't mess about. Usually it is me who is the shortie, & it's quite frustrating to realise they are all targeting me & "walking" each other, but that's just good DYM strategy. Anyway, one of the most enjoyable games I've played in a while. A-high, BOOMIO.
Plenty of traffic, though it went very quiet whilst the Football was on, but recovered quickly afterwards.
England play Switzerland tonight, as well as some other more interesting fixtures - Luxembourg v Belarus, San Marino v Lithuania (wowzer), & Montenegro v Moldova - so poker traffic is likely to be a little thinner than normal. I'm trying to average 150 Reward Points every session, so I can top 3,000 points this month & get the 50% Bonus, so fingers crossed there'll be enough traffic tonight. 3,000 Reward Points = £45, that's proper money, & worth going for.
No poker tomorrow - working - or Wednesday, as I have to go up to Leeds in the morning, & then on to a private engagement in the Midlands in the evening, so looking to have a winning session tonight.
We want more 'Jaceons' to join us from NLH! Jace has proved that it's an easy transition to make from NLH to PLO8. I love how you play Jace, I'd much, much rather sit at a table with five aggro players than 5 limpy Larrys. I made a decided effort two months ago to play silly aggro sometimes. Sometimes it goes atrociously wrong, sometimes ends in a long streak of wins. My overall stats haven't changed since the 'experiment' started (I have 160ish more games to play this way) so I am even more convinced that aggression is the way ahead. This is the third of my 'experiments' within the PLO8 DYMs. When this is completed will start a thread in the strategy section about them all. The most startling of these experiments was my pot raise/all-in trick when I was on button or SB, level 6 onwards (with nobody acting before me) and the guys to follow me, were stacked to fold. By that I mean if they folded they still had 1500+ chips. I did the shove thing with anything, for continuity sake of the experiment. Anyone care to guess what percentage of the time I was called/re-raised, pretty much meaning an all-in situation, or us both being pot commited? If you think it was less than 50% of the time, try again! Best of luck all, see you laters.
More aggro, & earlier per game, against everyone really, not just you Gelders. Just a bit of a tactical tweak, to see if I can find a way to kick on, as my 'roll has been becalmed
interesting question as to why it had become becalmed
1. variance
2. improving standard of opposition
3. villains learning how to exploit the old Teeks
although i would hazard that 1 and 2 are playing their part i think that 3 might be the key. ie the strategy you developed is a winning one in a vacuum, but can be exploited once peeps knows how you play
And if that is the case what would be the best tweak? i surmise adding something non tikay like ie extra aggression without necessarily having the nuts might do it.
It certainly has been noted and will make everyone have to think a lot harder about their play against you.
gl
ps if that doesn't work i guess the next thing to try will be to limp in every hand!
Perhaps TK you are simply the victim of your own success in promoting PL08 and developing a resource bank of great advice on how to play it?
I have been away from said tables for 6 months or so and the standard has much improved.
Back then - even though I was a PL08 newb myself - I came armed with a pretty good grasp of DYM strategy and the fundamentals of PL08 thoroughly researched. I found it relatively easy to win because there were usually 1 or 2 players who were having a try at the game with neither of those and were exploitable.
I recently dabbled in a couple of PL08 SNGs £3 and £5 and found them stacked with site "names" and the ones I didnt recognise seemed on the whole to know what they were doing.
On a very short sample I didnt fair too well and only felt I could realistically claim to have been unlucky once.
I really enjoy the game though and the chat at these tables.
I will continue to dabble and try and improve my game - but I will have to watch the bankroll as I dont think I would be playing winning poker at £5.
Luckily I play for recreation so that wont be an issue as long as I can earn my stake money in more familiar territory.
Happy birthday Tikay. 50 today. Hope Sky have bunged you a fiver Posted by Jac35
Thanks Mr......
50? If only.
And yes, Sky Poker did send me £5 for my Birthday. Cue any number of "why not me?" posts.....
Had an extremely hectic few days, including Tuesday's Show, which finished at midnight, then left home @ 4am yesterday to drive up to Leeds, & returning home via an evening in Stoke of all places, & eventually arriving back home @ 2am this morning. Sheesh, need sleep.
Many thanks to Hotty, Gelders, Hendrik, Miss Spite-Call & Phantom for the comments & questions, especially as to the current becalmed bankroll challenge. Very interesting actually.
Will reply to them all soonest, & also do Monday's numbers.
Will be back on the Tables tonight, fingers crossed, (maybe start around 5pm), & that will be the start of a 7 night session, right through to next Wednesday, so hopefully I can regain some momentum.
I am no longer fun-calling, don't worry bout me. On a seriouser note, regarding your bankroll challenge thingummy, you started doing something differently about five months ago. Something you didn't do previously when you would win a bit each month. As whatshisname used to say, can you tell what it is yet?
Was a good night until I somehow lost the last 5 on the bounce, including 2 @ £11, so that little lot came to a swing the wrong way of £60+. Bleurgh. In reality, we can't & should not look at 35 games in isolation, the real answer is over the whole month, which is 700 games or so. Can't be too many excuses over that sample size.
Witnessed some really nastly rail chat & trolling, jeez, what is the matter with people?
That apart, a really fun night.
Might change the style of these little daily reports, daily updates of why I won or lost a tenner (rarely much more or less) can't exactly be riveting reading, but I know a few peeps read them, so I'll try & spice them up with some real-life stories & tales.
I did have some awesome battles with Hotty & JACEON, I was getting SO many good hands, so that was great fun being able to play back at Team Aggro.
Lost one £11er after running up a BIG stack early, & I suppose I could & maybe should have shut up shop, but once I start pressing the aggro pedal, I can't seem to stop myself, I go a bit crazy-wazy. Anyway, Hotty opened with a raise (obv), & I had bad aces, DS but high only. The thing is though, he opens quite wide & I KNOW he'll fold to my re-pot unless he is mega-strong, & he's good enough to know my repot range. And if he comes along, fine, I can't be in terribad shape.
Then, the unexpected happened - chap behind me, yet to act, re-pots all-in! Yikes. OK sunshine, let's dance. He had A-2-10-10, & the 2-2-4 flop kinda sealed the deal. Next case.
Serves me right really, I did not need to get involved, especially as I never had a combo-hand. If my hand had held, of course, I'd have thought I was the bees-knees.....
Was a good night until I somehow lost the last 5 on the bounce, including 2 @ £11, so that little lot came to a swing the wrong way of £60+. Bleurgh. In reality, we can't & should not look at 35 games in isolation, the real answer is over the whole month, which is 700 games or so. Can't be too many excuses over that sample size. Witnessed some really nastly rail chat & trolling, jeez, what is the matter with people? That apart, a really fun night. Might change the style of these little daily reports, daily updates of why I won or lost a tenner (rarely much more or less) can't exactly be riveting reading, but I know a few peeps read them, so I'll try & spice them up with some real-life stories & tales. I did have some awesome battles with Hotty & JACEON, I was getting SO many good hands, so that was great fun being able to play back at Team Aggro. Lost one £11er after running up a BIG stack early, & I suppose I could & maybe should have shut up shop, but once I start pressing the aggro pedal, I can't seem to stop myself, I go a bit crazy-wazy. Anyway, Hotty opened with a raise (obv), & I had bad aces, DS but high only. The thing is though, he opens quite wide & I KNOW he'll fold to my re-pot unless he is mega-strong, & he's good enough to know my repot range. And if he comes along, fine, I can't be in terribad shape. Then, the unexpected happened - chap behind me, yet to act, re-pots all-in! Yikes. OK sunshine, let's dance. He had A-2-10-10, & the 2-2-4 flop kinda sealed the deal. Next case. Serves me right really, I did not need to get involved, especially as I never had a combo-hand. If my hand had held, of course, I'd have thought I was the bees-knees..... What a great game this is. Posted by Tikay10
I remember that hand too, took me by surprise too lol.
A quick real-life story. Serious matter, too, but my interest is that it happened very close to where I live, & I've been observing the aftermath since. And also that I can't help but notice how, these days, little arguments seem to get out of hand.
If you don't have the time to read it, in short, there was an argument in a pub on Sunday, & a chap got killed after, somehow, a fight spilled onto the road & he got knocked over by a passing van.
So far....
The road was closed for a long period, so traffic was snarled up for miles.
The pub has remained closed ever since, 4 days now, so the locals can't drink there any more.
The Landlord has been charged with manslaughter, & conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, after a CCTV Camera, which "saw" it all mysteriously disappeared. If found guilty, he'll go to prison for a goodly while, & his pub will have to close.
The victim, from the USA, will go home in a coffin.
A dreadful thing, however you look at it.
But here's the thing. There were dozens of eye-witnesses to the whole thing, &, it seems, it all began after a minor, petty & trivial argument about something escalated & got out of hand. Now one chap is dead, & another, if found guilty, might find himself in prison for a few years.
And it all began with a petty argument.
You may or may not get my drift, but it just amazes me how we have become a society where so many seem so happy to argue & get uppity. Sometimes, the consequences of these petty arguments are not at all what we might imagine.
A quick real-life story. Serious matter, too, but my interest is that it happened very close to where I live, & I've been observing the aftermath since. And also that I can't help but notice how, these days, little arguments seem to get out of hand.
His death has shocked residents in a road lined with gated homes worth millions of pounds.
You do know there is a BBV section!
Joking apart, amazing how little disagreements do escalate and get out of hand very quickly nowadays. It will be very sad news to his family when they are traced.
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A quick real-life story. Serious matter, too, but my interest is that it happened very close to where I live , & I've been observing the aftermath since. And also that I can't help but notice how, these days, little arguments seem to get out of hand. His death has shocked residents in a road lined with gated homes worth millions of pounds. You do know there is a BBV section! Joking apart, amazing how little disagreements do escalate and get out of hand very quickly nowadays. It will be very sad news to his family when they are traced. Posted by MAXALLY
If only - I'm on the other side of the river, where the poor folk live.
And yes, these little tiffs do get out of hand so quickly. Aliens from another planet would look at us & assume we had not yet learned the art of turning the other cheek.
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7th SEPTEMBER Scores on the Doors.
Played 34
Won 19
Lost 15
£3.30, P 19, W 10, L 9
£5.50, P 11, W 7 L 4
£11, P 4, W 2, L 2
Opening Balance - £1,380.95
Closing Balance = £1,383.75
Profit/Loss on Night - £2.80
Profit/Loss on Month = £24.60
REWARD POINTS on night = 152
REWARD POINTS IN MONTH = 955 (= £9.55)
GAMES PLAYED IN MONTH = 212
GAMES WON IN MONTH = 119
AUGUST WIN % = 56.13%
August Profit/Loss per game = £0.12
Strange session that.
Played 2 @ £11 early doors, lost them both, & as not many of them run, & they "skew" the numbers being worth so much more than the bulk of them, things were looking grim. On top of that, was not feeling so good, or "feeling" the game, so was on the point of drawing stumps early.
But slowly-wowly, it began to turn. Just 2 more ran @ £11 before I quit, & I won both of them, to end up all square on them, & a mini-profit on the night. Phew, result.
The 2 @ £11 I managed to "win" were both absolute corkers, in both cases the line-up included aggro hot-shots hotwheals & JACEON, as well as Tuney who can be a right handful, but has a different style.
I managed a near 2xUp early on in one, when I check-called a lad every street but missed the lot - but to my amazement, the chips slid across to me, & I'd won with A-high! A-high scoops in PLO8, what?!
So, armed with a healthy stack, I decided to fight fire with fire & played really aggro, sort of retaliating first. Makes such a difference to have a big stack, you can really pile the coals on. I only eased off when we were 4 handed, 3 big stacks & a shortie. Makes no sense to take the Big Stacks on when there is a shortie in town. All three of us understood that. Nothing said in the chatbox, but good players know these things & don't mess about. Usually it is me who is the shortie, & it's quite frustrating to realise they are all targeting me & "walking" each other, but that's just good DYM strategy. Anyway, one of the most enjoyable games I've played in a while. A-high, BOOMIO.
Plenty of traffic, though it went very quiet whilst the Football was on, but recovered quickly afterwards.
England play Switzerland tonight, as well as some other more interesting fixtures - Luxembourg v Belarus, San Marino v Lithuania (wowzer), & Montenegro v Moldova - so poker traffic is likely to be a little thinner than normal. I'm trying to average 150 Reward Points every session, so I can top 3,000 points this month & get the 50% Bonus, so fingers crossed there'll be enough traffic tonight. 3,000 Reward Points = £45, that's proper money, & worth going for.
No poker tomorrow - working - or Wednesday, as I have to go up to Leeds in the morning, & then on to a private engagement in the Midlands in the evening, so looking to have a winning session tonight.
See a few of you later, all being well.
Jace has proved that it's an easy transition to make from NLH to PLO8.
I love how you play Jace, I'd much, much rather sit at a table with five aggro players than 5 limpy Larrys.
I made a decided effort two months ago to play silly aggro sometimes. Sometimes it goes atrociously wrong, sometimes ends in a long streak of wins. My overall stats haven't changed since the 'experiment' started (I have 160ish more games to play this way) so I am even more convinced that aggression is the way ahead.
This is the third of my 'experiments' within the PLO8 DYMs. When this is completed will start a thread in the strategy section about them all.
The most startling of these experiments was my pot raise/all-in trick when I was on button or SB, level 6 onwards (with nobody acting before me) and the guys to follow me, were stacked to fold. By that I mean if they folded they still had 1500+ chips. I did the shove thing with anything, for continuity sake of the experiment. Anyone care to guess what percentage of the time I was called/re-raised, pretty much meaning an all-in situation, or us both being pot commited? If you think it was less than 50% of the time, try again!
Best of luck all, see you laters.
50? If only.
And yes, Sky Poker did send me £5 for my Birthday. Cue any number of "why not me?" posts.....
Had an extremely hectic few days, including Tuesday's Show, which finished at midnight, then left home @ 4am yesterday to drive up to Leeds, & returning home via an evening in Stoke of all places, & eventually arriving back home @ 2am this morning. Sheesh, need sleep.
Many thanks to Hotty, Gelders, Hendrik, Miss Spite-Call & Phantom for the comments & questions, especially as to the current becalmed bankroll challenge. Very interesting actually.
Will reply to them all soonest, & also do Monday's numbers.
Will be back on the Tables tonight, fingers crossed, (maybe start around 5pm), & that will be the start of a 7 night session, right through to next Wednesday, so hopefully I can regain some momentum.
See you tonight, am itching to play already!
On a seriouser note, regarding your bankroll challenge thingummy, you started doing something differently about five months ago. Something you didn't do previously when you would win a bit each month.
As whatshisname used to say, can you tell what it is yet?
8th SEPTEMBER Scores on the Doors.
Played 35
Won 20
Lost 15
£3.30, P 19, W 11, L 8
£5.50, P 11, W 7 L 4
£11, P 5, W 2, L 3
Opening Balance - £1,380.95
Closing Balance = £1,375.45
Profit/Loss on Night - £5.50
Profit/Loss on Month = £19.10
REWARD POINTS on night = 162
REWARD POINTS IN MONTH = 1,117 (= £11.17)
GAMES PLAYED IN MONTH = 247
GAMES WON IN MONTH = 139
AUGUST WIN % = 56.27%
August Profit/Loss per game = £0.08
Was a good night until I somehow lost the last 5 on the bounce, including 2 @ £11, so that little lot came to a swing the wrong way of £60+. Bleurgh. In reality, we can't & should not look at 35 games in isolation, the real answer is over the whole month, which is 700 games or so. Can't be too many excuses over that sample size.
Witnessed some really nastly rail chat & trolling, jeez, what is the matter with people?
That apart, a really fun night.
Might change the style of these little daily reports, daily updates of why I won or lost a tenner (rarely much more or less) can't exactly be riveting reading, but I know a few peeps read them, so I'll try & spice them up with some real-life stories & tales.
I did have some awesome battles with Hotty & JACEON, I was getting SO many good hands, so that was great fun being able to play back at Team Aggro.
Lost one £11er after running up a BIG stack early, & I suppose I could & maybe should have shut up shop, but once I start pressing the aggro pedal, I can't seem to stop myself, I go a bit crazy-wazy. Anyway, Hotty opened with a raise (obv), & I had bad aces, DS but high only. The thing is though, he opens quite wide & I KNOW he'll fold to my re-pot unless he is mega-strong, & he's good enough to know my repot range. And if he comes along, fine, I can't be in terribad shape.
Then, the unexpected happened - chap behind me, yet to act, re-pots all-in! Yikes. OK sunshine, let's dance. He had A-2-10-10, & the 2-2-4 flop kinda sealed the deal. Next case.
Serves me right really, I did not need to get involved, especially as I never had a combo-hand. If my hand had held, of course, I'd have thought I was the bees-knees.....
What a great game this is.
A quick real-life story. Serious matter, too, but my interest is that it happened very close to where I live, & I've been observing the aftermath since. And also that I can't help but notice how, these days, little arguments seem to get out of hand.
This tragedy happened on Sunday evening.
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/three-held-by-police-after-suspicious-death-of-tourist-outside-hampton-court-gastropub-9719802.html
If you don't have the time to read it, in short, there was an argument in a pub on Sunday, & a chap got killed after, somehow, a fight spilled onto the road & he got knocked over by a passing van.
So far....
The road was closed for a long period, so traffic was snarled up for miles.
The pub has remained closed ever since, 4 days now, so the locals can't drink there any more.
The Landlord has been charged with manslaughter, & conspiracy to pervert the course of justice, after a CCTV Camera, which "saw" it all mysteriously disappeared. If found guilty, he'll go to prison for a goodly while, & his pub will have to close.
The victim, from the USA, will go home in a coffin.
A dreadful thing, however you look at it.
But here's the thing. There were dozens of eye-witnesses to the whole thing, &, it seems, it all began after a minor, petty & trivial argument about something escalated & got out of hand. Now one chap is dead, & another, if found guilty, might find himself in prison for a few years.
And it all began with a petty argument.
You may or may not get my drift, but it just amazes me how we have become a society where so many seem so happy to argue & get uppity. Sometimes, the consequences of these petty arguments are not at all what we might imagine.
Peace, & all that.
OK, back to poker.