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Can an old dog learn new tricks?

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  • FCHDFCHD Member Posts: 3,178
    edited September 2014
    You cut off that chat log just as it was getting interesting, denying the community all the talk about pies.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    You cut off that chat log just as it was getting interesting, denying the community all the talk about pies.
    Posted by FCHD
    Not sure about "interesting".

    It went on for FOUR more games, pies, pies, pies this, pies that, pies the other.



  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014

    13th SEPTEMBER Scores on the Doors.

    Played 50

    Won 23

    Lost 27


    £3.30, P 20, W 9, L 11

    £5.50, P 21, W 10 L 11

    £11, P 9, W 4, L 5

    Opening Balance - £1,408.15

    Closing Balance = £1,361.65

    Profit/Loss on Night - £46.50

    Profit/Loss on Month = £2.50

    REWARD POINTS on night = 250

    REWARD POINTS IN MONTH = 1,671 (= £16.71)

    GAMES PLAYED IN MONTH = 367

    GAMES WON IN MONTH = 206

    SEPTEMBER WIN % = 56.13%

    SEPTEMBER Profit/Loss per game = £0.01
  • robertodrobertod Member Posts: 152
    edited September 2014
    I'll never forget the advice my dad gave me about poker...
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014

    Marv.
     
    Well I enjoyed my brief foray into the £1,400+ department, which lasted exactly one day.

    I was at least consistent last night - I lost at £3, £5 & £11.
     
    Just one of those nights, the harder I tried, the worse it got.
     
    Some run bad, sure, but my timing was spectacular all evening. When one of the Team Aggro boys raises, hands like A-K-2-4 are exactly what I want & I get it in pdq, but they kept turning up with the Aces last night, it was incred.
     
    Think I knew things would be bad when I got a full stack in pre with the Aces & my man turned up with 8-7-3-3 & got there.
     
    At one stage I was £95 in the hole, so I suppose a £46 loss was really quite a result.

    An amazing amount of traffic last night, & at mid stage, I found I had way too many going, 6 is easy peasy comfort zone, but 9 is way too many for me & I got in a bit of a mess. There were so many games going that at mid stage, I stopped regging for £3ers & just played £5 & £11. I really should have done that earlier, as during the 15-30 game stage, I won exactly 3 games.....

    Yeah yeah, variance & all that, but I ought to do better over 50 games.

    So, back to £1,365. I feel I know the area well. 

    Amazing how one night can mess the numbers up so totally. 

    Back tonight, revenge mission.
     
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014

    In answer to all the helpful prompts & questions as to my current state of bankroll becalmedness....

    I honestly don't know the answer, I suspect it is a combo of various things.
     
    Maybe I was running good earlier? I suspect not though, 4,000 games is a decent sample size.
     
    Has the general standard of play improved? Yes yes yes, so many better players are here now, but that's a good thing.
     
    Am I making fundamental errors? Possibly, but I can't see what they are, technically I think I'm playing OK. Team Aggro have definitely changed the dynamic, but I think I know how to combat that.

    What did I "tweak" a few months ago? Can't remember now, I tweak stuff all the time. It's a bit like a golf swing, we change one thing for the better, maybe our grip, but that causes something else to move, our stance or whatever. It never ends, this fiddling with the way we play.
     
    Anyway, I'll keep twiddling & tweaking, fiffing & faffing.
     
    It's a proper challenge this, really frustrating at times, but wonderfully satisfying.
     
    LOADS of new players last night. Come the winter it will be awesome.  
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014

    Quick shout out for JACEON, who looked to be having a worse time than me last night. I don't actually recall seeing him win a single game, he ran awful, really awful.
     
    Hope you run better tonight mate.
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited September 2014

    "What did I "tweak" a few months ago? Can't remember now"

    Hand ranges when you're following a pot raise.
     

  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    "What did I "tweak" a few months ago? Can't remember now" Hand ranges when you're following a pot raise.  
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    Ahh yes, so I did. Think I've tweaked them 97 times since then.....
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014


    I forgot to mention a new player in our midst, who has absolutely murdered the games the last few days, "dutyfree28".

    Don't think I saw him lose a single game yesterday, & he played plenty, & just kept running up huge stacks.

    Welcome aboard Mr DutyFree.

    The game just keeps getting harder, all these good new players, most of them members of Team Aggro.
     
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited September 2014
    The team aggro lot are brilliant. It makes the game/s so much more fun.
    My theory is that most are coming from NLH and that's played differently with regard to stack sizes  and what people are comfortable with. In PLO8 most of us are, not exactly happy, but not worrying, if we have 1000 or 900 chips. In NLH I have noticed the shove threshold is higher than that. 1400/1500 chips seems to get people shoving with half a hand and it's like that in PLO8. Great stuff all around.
  • gerardirlgerardirl Member Posts: 1,299
    edited September 2014
    Hey Tikay, good luck tonight.

    I reached a milestone 1000 PLO8 dym games yesterday. As you know I was a Omaha player and I've thoroughly enjoyed the move over. I've learned alot along the way and I'm still learning little tweaks as I go along. One thing has always stood constant though and its adjusting to each player which is the fascinating part of the game. I agree its great to see new faces and some good ones too as it tests us even more.

    Most of all it is the great company at the tables that has me coming back time and time again.....what a great bunch and what great entertainment every night! Thanks to all the Ploppers.

    I now start my mission to hit 2k games :).

    See you all at the tables.

    Ger
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    The team aggro lot are brilliant. It makes the game/s so much more fun. My theory is that most are coming from NLH and that's played differently with regard to stack sizes  and what people are comfortable with. In PLO8 most of us are, not exactly happy, but not worrying, if we have 1000 or 900 chips. In NLH I have noticed the shove threshold is higher than that. 1400/1500 chips seems to get people shoving with half a hand and it's like that in PLO8. Great stuff all around.
    Posted by Macacgirl1

    Agree, love to see it, love to play against them. Real helter skelter stuff, great fun.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014


    Heaven is......



  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited September 2014
    Throw that rubbish in the bin!

    Look, listen and learn something.
    Gravy is very easy to make, this is one way, even a monkey could do this.

    When you cook a chicken or joint of meat, sit it on some roughly chopped onions, carrots, celery, bit of garlic, sprig of fresh herbs, owt like that you have.
    When the chicken/joint is cooked, remove from tray and whilst it is resting, you can make the gravy.

    Tip out most of the fat from the tray, you need to leave a tablespoon or two in there. Keep the vegetables in there. Put the tray on the hob over a medium heat. Add a tablespoon of flour, stir for about 5 minutes, obviously don't let it burn. It will look like a mess, don't panic. Add a small glass of wine, red for beef, white for chicken, maybe a splash of port, or brandy etc, let the alcohol cook out, add a pint of stock, bring to boil, simmer well for five minutes, sieve into a saucepan and add more stock if you want thinner gravy, or boil until the gravy is as thick as you want. Check for seasoning and serve.
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Throw that rubbish in the bin! Look, listen and learn something. Gravy is very easy to make, this is one way, even a monkey could do this. When you cook a chicken or joint of meat, sit it on some roughly chopped onions, carrots, celery, bit of garlic, sprig of fresh herbs, owt like that you have. When the chicken/joint is cooked, remove from tray and whilst it is resting, you can make the gravy. Tip out most of the fat from the tray, you need to leave a tablespoon or two in there. Keep the vegetables in there. Put the tray on the hob over a medium heat. Add a tablespoon of flour, stir for about 5 minutes, obviously don't let it burn. It will look like a mess, don't panic. Add a small glass of wine, red for beef, white for chicken, maybe a splash of port, or brandy etc, let the alcohol cook out, add a pint of stock, bring to boil, simmer well for five minutes, sieve into a saucepan and add more stock if you want thinner gravy, or boil until the gravy is as thick as you want. Check for seasoning and serve.
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    Please.

    I never have, do not, & never will, eat or even touch ANY of those things.

    I do not eat any vegetables except potatoes, never have done. It's the clue to my health & longevity.
     
    And all that work. Boil a kettle of water, pour it on some Bisto Gravy Granules, job done. Personally, I add a little mint jelly, as it forms into sort of congealed blobs. Lovely, almost as yummy as thick custard skin.   
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    Hey Tikay, good luck tonight. I reached a milestone 1000 PLO8 dym games yesterday. As you know I was a Omaha player and I've thoroughly enjoyed the move over. I've learned alot along the way and I'm still learning little tweaks as I go along. One thing has always stood constant though and its adjusting to each player which is the fascinating part of the game. I agree its great to see new faces and some good ones too as it tests us even more. Most of all it is the great company at the tables that has me coming back time and time again.....what a great bunch and what great entertainment every night! Thanks to all the Ploppers. I now start my mission to hit 2k games :). See you all at the tables. Ger
    Posted by gerardirl
    Congrats on the 1,000 games Ger, & best of luck in the next 1,000. It's quite something to swap from PLO to PLO8 & still be successful, well done.

    You are a wonderful ambassador for poker, you really are.
  • Macacgirl1Macacgirl1 Member Posts: 865
    edited September 2014
    ggggrrrrrrr.
    Veg free gravy!

    Add one tablespoon of oil or butter or dripping etc into a saucepan. heat. add a tablespoon of flour. Over a medium high heat, stir until the mix lightly browns. Gradually add a pint of stock, whisking as you go. When all the stock is added bring to boil then simmer for five minutes. Season. Better than any granule nonsense!
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,325
    edited September 2014
    In Response to Re: Can an old dog learn new tricks?:
    ggggrrrrrrr. Veg free gravy! Add one tablespoon of oil or butter or dripping etc into a saucepan. heat. add a tablespoon of flour. Over a medium high heat, stir until the mix lightly browns. Gradually add a pint of stock, whisking as you go. When all the stock is added bring to boil then simmer for five minutes. Season. Better than any granule nonsense!
    Posted by Macacgirl1
    Stock?

    Stock contains all sorts of dreadful vegetable matter.

    Please be clear on this. Vegetables are the work of the devil. I do not eat them.

    I only eat wholesome foods, like Gala Slices, & Pork Pies. Full of goodness, them.



     

     
     
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