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Diary of a fledgling player

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  • Phantom66Phantom66 Member Posts: 5,542
    edited November 2013
    lol @gazza

    @hhyft was meant as a joke - perhaps someone should invent a tongue in cheek emoticon? Not sure whether you are continuing the joke or took offence. If it's the latter then i'm sorry.

    and getting back to the point no harm in anyone taking a punt at a biggie if they can afford it.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : Aww we know that you know your shizzle Harry... downswings suck and really mash your head up. Just so I haven't completely wasted space on your diary I'll chuck out some input for ya Peter. I'd strongly urge you get rid of this idea that folding down to 5xBB is standard/fine/good. The are circumstances that'll call for it, when survival is key AND the stacks in play are all very short but generally it's bad. For instance if it's 200/400, and you have 2.2k (so 5.5xBB) but the other stacks around are like 2.5k, 1.6k and 1.9k, then it's not panic stations yet and you can use your noggin about how best to use your stack. If however it's more like 50/100 and you've voluntarily folded down to 550 (still 5.5xBB) chips while everyone else has 2.2k, 2.5, 1.8k or w.e then this is reaaaaallllyyy bad. You're just putting yourself in such a bad spot to cash where you're basically relying on the fact you will HAVE to get lucky. I see so many people do it in Sky MTTs ALLLLL the time and it's just so poor, yeh they may mincash a few more times when a better player may bust, and they may even run very very good the odd time, spin it up and go deep, but they're limiting their chances to go deep regularly so much. DYMs are obviously different, but the most important things in DYMs imo isn't necessarily your stack size, but your stack size in relation to everyone else's.
    Posted by Lambert180
    When I go down to 5BB's it is in a DYM, or on the bubble with other players in trouble in a Six-Max. I do judge the situation based on the chipstacks of other players so technically, we have the same opinion? It is just that at these low level games, this situation happens pretty much every tournament ..

    We may come across this situation in our game later today, will be great fun!

    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player :  +1 - I took a diversion from my STT challenge to play a UKOPS mini this week and glad I did - was it great BRM - no- but had the money there and just wanted to part of it, Looking forward to the UK Poker champs sats now. Cough! This months nomination for thinly disguised brag post goes to...
    Posted by Phantom66
    Same here for the UK Poker Champs, but I will be using my BRM and BR for that one :-)

    Have to say, this is not the response I expected from you guys! Last time I deposited to play a big tournament, I got shouted at, and rightly so - that's one of the reasons I made the diary - so people could complain when I'm not following BRM. UKOPS is different though, it's a special occasion that I want to be part of :-)
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    lol @gazza @hhyft was meant as a joke - perhaps someone should invent a tongue in cheek emoticon? Not sure whether you are continuing the joke or took offence. If it's the latter then i'm sorry. and getting back to the point no harm in anyone taking a punt at a biggie if they can afford it.
    Posted by Phantom66
    Sigh, thought it was pretty obvious I was continuing the joke. **** internet.
  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited November 2013
    first half of the diary all the bankroll nits like myself are pulling the lad one way, then in come the degens pulling him the other!

    superb results, and one of the best diaries on here, peter. i wish i had it in me to take shots like you do. you've got the game for it certainly.

    hhyftrftdr's brags are sickening though, no-one needs to hear that.

    cheers,
    TEDDY
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    first half of the diary all the bankroll nits like myself are pulling the lad one way, then in come the degens pulling him the other! superb results, and one of the best diaries on here, peter. i wish i had it in me to take shots like you do. you've got the game for it certainly. hhyftrftdr's brags are sickening though, no-one needs to hear that. cheers, TEDDY
    Posted by TeddyBloat
    You honour me Sir, thanks for the lovely words! :-)
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    Day 22

    A big profit yesterday, mainly because of the Top of the posts tournament I was selected to play in :-)

    Played 5 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 4th, 1st*, 3rd, 6th, 1st).

    *This win was epic for me, my best ever comeback! When I was heads up, there were 9000 chips in play, I had just 365 and the blind levels were 50/100. Came away with the win though :D

    Played 1 x £1 Double Your Money (result: 4th)
    Played 1 x Top of the posts (result: 2nd) - much better than I expected, netted me £30!
    Played 1 x £2 Double Your Money (result: 5th)
    Played 1 x £2 Turbo DYM (result: 2nd)

    As you can see, after the £30 win I upped my entry to £2 tournaments. Balance now £70.69, not sure what levels I should be playing at now? Suggestions?

    As I mentioned yesterday, I deposited specially for a UKOPS tournament (not counting towards this diary). I late regged for the £4000 GTD UKOPS event and managed to double up quite early, but got knocked out in this hand. Feel free to give feedback!

    Will update the first post now! :-)

    P.S. That's me done for UKOPS now, unless there are some great low stake/freeroll satellites today. Teacakes says the next UKOPS will probably be around christmas - hoping to have a decent bankroll for that via this diary! :-)
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    Day 23

    Interesting day today, realised that as I'm now playing at slightly higher levels, my earning potential has significantly increased.

    Played 3 x £2 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 1st, 1st, 5th)
    Played 1 x £2 Double Your Money (result: 6th)

    Balance is now £76.74, will update the first post now.

    I have to say, I am still not entirely sure what levels I should be playing at with this balance, open to suggestions here. Can I go up to £3/£4?
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In the recent Top of the posts tournament, LARSON7 challenged me to a 50p best of three Heads-Up game. If you're reading this, we need to arrange a time for that!
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited November 2013
    I'm on for till about 1:30 or sometime tomorrow
  • Jac35Jac35 Member Posts: 6,492
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    Day 23 Interesting day today, realised that as I'm now playing at slightly higher levels, my earning potential has significantly increased. Played 3 x £2 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 1st, 1st, 5th) Played 1 x £2 Double Your Money (result: 6th) Balance is now £76.74, will update the first post now. I have to say, I am still not entirely sure what levels I should be playing at with this balance, open to suggestions here. Can I go up to £3/£4?
    Posted by peter27
    It seems like you're doing pretty well.
    I'd recommend moving up yo the £3.30 Dyms. Rake is less, which should be a consideration if you're putting decent volume in.
    Standard I would think is much the same as the £2.25 games.
    Dyms are low variance and I can't see you going broke playing the £3.30's
    If your bankroll starts to go down, just move back down.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    I'm on for till about 1:30 or sometime tomorrow
    Posted by LARSON7
    I won't be playing until tonight. Do you have Skype or something? Will be easier to arrange then!
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : It seems like you're doing pretty well. I'd recommend moving up yo the £3.30 Dyms. Rake is less, which should be a consideration if you're putting decent volume in. Standard I would think is much the same as the £2.25 games. Dyms are low variance and I can't see you going broke playing the £3.30's If your bankroll starts to go down, just move back down.
    Posted by Jac35
    If I am going to move up to £3 games then I'd probably play six-max games rather than DYM's as I'm having much more success at them. But yes, It's worth considering, thanks! :-)
  • Tikay10Tikay10 Member, Administrator, Moderator Posts: 172,367
    edited November 2013

    £10 to £74 already - you are doing just great.

    What a comeback in that thing you won, too, 965 chips was it?

    Main thing- ABOVE EVEYTHING ELSE - is that you seem to be having fun.
     
    Sometimes players forget that it's all about fun, & these sort of Diaries can become Chunter City.

    None of us can win every day, we all have swings & swongs, there are no exceptions, so best get used to it, & enjoy the ride come what may.

    Very pleased for you.

    I am doing a similar "back to basics" thing, starting with £200, & I'm bound to say, I've never had so much fun, it has totally re-energised my interest in Online Poker.

    I'd recommend it to anyone.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    £10 to £74 already - you are doing just great. What a comeback in that thing you won, too, 965 chips was it? Main thing- ABOVE EVEYTHING ELSE - is that you seem to be having fun.   Sometimes players forget that it's all about fun, & these sort of Diaries can become Chunter City. None of us can win every day, we all have swings & swongs, there are no exceptions, so best get used to it, & enjoy the ride come what may. Very pleased for you. I am doing a similar "back to basics" thing, starting with £200, & I'm bound to say, I've never had so much fun, it has totally re-energised my interest in Online Poker. I'd recommend it to anyone.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Yeah, I am quite proud of my achievements so far. Part of the reason for creating this diary was to understand if I was actually any good or not and although I'm not the complete article yet, I do feel like I'm getting there!

    My comeback was from 365 chips when my opponent had 8635 ... what can I say, I ran well! :-)

    Couldn't agree more, doing this diary has really fueled my interest in the game and I find myself itching to play whenever I get the opportunity. I've been following your "Can an old dog learn new tricks?" diary, it's a very interesting read!
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    £10 to £74 already - you are doing just great. What a comeback in that thing you won, too, 965 chips was it? Main thing- ABOVE EVEYTHING ELSE - is that you seem to be having fun.   Sometimes players forget that it's all about fun, & these sort of Diaries can become Chunter City. None of us can win every day, we all have swings & swongs, there are no exceptions, so best get used to it, & enjoy the ride come what may. Very pleased for you. I am doing a similar "back to basics" thing, starting with £200, & I'm bound to say, I've never had so much fun, it has totally re-energised my interest in Online Poker. I'd recommend it to anyone.
    Posted by Tikay10
    Gazza127.

    Cough.
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    Day 24

    Not too much play today, but ended on a small profit :-)

    Played 2 x £2 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 2nd, 2nd)
    Played 1 x £2 Six-Max (result: 5th*)

    * Went out of this tournament on this hand:
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    jonesy7130 Small blind   25.00 25.00 1010.00
    iceman7t7 Big blind   50.00 75.00 2102.50
      Your hole cards
    • Q
    • 9
         
    magicsix Fold        
    roy_flush Fold        
    peter27 Raise   150.00 225.00 1292.50
    jonesy7130 Fold        
    iceman7t7 Raise   200.00 425.00 1902.50
    peter27 Call   100.00 525.00 1192.50
    Flop
       
    • K
    • K
    • A
         
    iceman7t7 Check        
    peter27 Check        
    Turn
       
    • Q
         
    iceman7t7 Check        
    peter27 Check        
    River
       
    • 9
         
    iceman7t7 All-in   1902.50 2427.50 0.00
    peter27 All-in   1192.50 3620.00 0.00
    iceman7t7 Unmatched bet   710.00 2910.00 710.00
    iceman7t7 Show
    • K
    • Q
         
    peter27 Show
    • Q
    • 9
         
    iceman7t7 Win Full House, Kings and Queens 2910.00   3620.00
    To be honest, I suspected he had a king from the reaction time of the check on the flop. However when he went all-in I decided to call because that was the 3rd time in about six hands he had gone all-in. He was playing very aggressively and I thought there's a chance he couldn't have decent hands every time. Plus I was getting tired so it was worth a shot!

    Someone will probably mention my loose raise pre-flop, but based on the tightness of the other players on the table, and the fact I was in position - I decided to go for it.

    I have to say though, I seem to be breaking my habit of calling all-ins just because "they might be bluffing" and because I'm a risk-taker. I'm quite proud of myself that I'm folding a lot more now :-)

    Ended the day on £78.54, will update the first post now :-)
  • EasyHoneyEasyHoney Member Posts: 58
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    Day 24 Not too much play today, but ended on a small profit :-) Played 2 x £2 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 2nd, 2nd) Played 1 x £2 Six-Max (result: 5th*) * Went out of this tournament on this hand: Player Action Cards Amount Pot Balance jonesy7130 Small blind   25.00 25.00 1010.00 iceman7t7 Big blind   50.00 75.00 2102.50   Your hole cards Q 9       magicsix Fold         roy_flush Fold         peter27 Raise   150.00 225.00 1292.50 jonesy7130 Fold         iceman7t7 Raise   200.00 425.00 1902.50 peter27 Call   100.00 525.00 1192.50 Flop     K K A       iceman7t7 Check         peter27 Check         Turn     Q       iceman7t7 Check         peter27 Check         River     9       iceman7t7 All-in   1902.50 2427.50 0.00 peter27 All-in   1192.50 3620.00 0.00 iceman7t7 Unmatched bet   710.00 2910.00 710.00 iceman7t7 Show K Q       peter27 Show Q 9       iceman7t7 Win Full House, Kings and Queens 2910.00   3620.00 To be honest, I suspected he had a king from the reaction time of the check on the flop. However when he went all-in I decided to call because that was the 3rd time in about six hands he had gone all-in. He was playing very aggressively and I thought there's a chance he couldn't have decent hands every time. Plus I was getting tired so it was worth a shot! Someone will probably mention my loose raise pre-flop, but based on the tightness of the other players on the table, and the fact I was in position - I decided to go for it. I have to say though, I seem to be breaking my habit of calling all-ins just because "they might be bluffing" and because I'm a risk-taker. I'm quite proud of myself that I'm folding a lot more now :-) Ended the day on £78.54, will update the first post now :-)
    Posted by peter27
    Your doing very good mate keep it up

    Just looking at that last play maybe a bet on the flop would of saved you some but easy to say once the hand is done ... obviously getting alot stronger ... in a year maybe a a wsop final table ;)
  • peter27peter27 Member Posts: 1,634
    edited November 2013
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player:
    In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : Your doing very good mate keep it up Just looking at that last play maybe a bet on the flop would of saved you some but easy to say once the hand is done ... obviously getting alot stronger ... in a year maybe a a wsop final table ;)
    Posted by EasyHoney
    Would it? I mean, he did have a king as I expected - he's not gonna fold trip kings? Even if my hand did look stronger.

    Haha, Phil Ivy watch out!
  • EasyHoneyEasyHoney Member Posts: 58
    edited November 2013
    i think if you bet the flop you have a better idea of what your up against

    1. He can fold
    2. he can call which i think is definite he has a k because he has been so aggressive (all in x 3 in 6hands)
    3. if he raises then its more likely a bluff but you have nothing anyway so fold

    he cant call you too lightly because of your stacks versus blinds

    either way you get some info,

    so you can check all the way and fold to any bets or check as you did hit 2 pair, un-sure where you are at and call a all in you was thinking you shouldn't anyway
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2013
    Peter, with that hand, you need to piece together the story. He's basically minclicked it back out of position. Will he do this with garbage, or is it more likely to be a premium holding? I'm not at the table so have no idea of dynamic but generally speaking a min 3bet is a strong hand. 

    Using this assumption, what hand does he minclick pre, to then check, check over jam on a AKKQ9 (I think) board? Has he suddenly tried to pinch it with random air? Or turned JJ into a bluff? Big risk for a large %age of his stack and would be a pretty silly spot to bluff in such a modest, passive pot. Would you not think he has more likely flopped massive and is desperate to conceal the strength of their hand? And check it down to let you try and hit a piece.

    Putting all that together, his range (IMO) leans much more towards a flopped FH with AA/AK, or a turned FH with QQ. Could even argue quads are a possibility. With that action, to call that river jam is pretty spewy and will almost always be a losing call without very specific reads/history saying villain is capable of bluffing in this spot. Just not a great spot to call off our tournament I think.
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