Personally I don't have a problem with the number of diaries - they keep they forum alive IMO.
I think u played the interesting hand just fine btw - very impressed. Don't be concerned by the result - they should be shoving a lot worse than AQ in that spot!
Personally I don't have a problem with the number of diaries - they keep they forum alive IMO. I think u played the interesting hand just fine btw - very impressed. Don't be concerned by the result - they should be shoving a lot worse than AQ in that spot! Posted by chicknMelt
Thanks! Coming from an experienced member of the community like you, that means a lot :-)
Day 37 Well, when I started this diary - I had never really experienced long-term variance like some people were telling me exists! I have now though .. Played 3 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 3rd, 3rd, 6th) Played 1 x £1 Heads-Up (Turbo) (result: 2nd) Down to £49.35 ... really need this downswing to stop Will update the first post now. Posted by peter27
downswings suck! I'm in one too atm.
Are you looking at why your not winning? every tourney I go out of I try to analyse what went wrong...Normally there is something I could have done better...
If I were you I'd be posting as many hands as possible on here - there are loads of people browsing the forums all day just waiting for a juicy hand to get their head round! Even if the response is just "yeah, that was UL" ... then at leats you now
Haven't posted for a few days - I was very angry and annoyed TBH, you're about to see why:
Day 38
Broke my BRM in a big way (this was Sunday). Saw a £20K Roller Direct torunament in the very late stages of late reg, cost £12 to register - and there were only 8 players left with the winner qualifying and the person in second place winning cash! I decided to enter purely because of the value, it was too good not to take!
The reason I was so angry? Finished 3rd ... went out in a horrible way too! 2nd place would have netted me £88!! Gutted. Although don't have any regrets.
Day 39
One more shot at qualifying for the Super Roller, but just via a cheap £20K All-In Sat this time, didn't manage to qualify though!
Day 40 (today)
Played 1 x £25 Guarnteed (result: 2nd, won £7.50) - I haven't played these tournaments a lot, but I do seem to cash in them when I do, might start playing them more regularly! Played 2 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 3rd, 3rd) - Not having a lot of luck in Six-Max right now, may switch to DYM's again from tomorrow.
Balance is now £37.45, will update the first post now. If I carry on like this I will need to re-deposit soon ..
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : downswings suck! I'm in one too atm. Are you looking at why your not winning? every tourney I go out of I try to analyse what went wrong...Normally there is something I could have done better... If I were you I'd be posting as many hands as possible on here - there are loads of people browsing the forums all day just waiting for a juicy hand to get their head round! Even if the response is just "yeah, that was UL" ... then at leats you now Posted by chicknMelt
Yep, I do analysis at the end of every day. Do also post in the poker clinic, but I try not to have more than three unresolved topics at a time, don't want to be accused of spamming haha!
You know whats wrong, peter and how to fix it. Just need your discipline back. Dont chase spots outside your brm evem if it's got percieved value. Put it this way if I offered you a 55% edge for your whole life roll it would be +ev but if you continued taking those +ev flips for your roll you would be guarenteed to go broke eventually. Stay disciplined and allow your skill to grow your roll again. reread your diary.
Very best of luck, I hope it all turns round for you...
Peter, if you can deposit again without it compromising your life roll (for want of a better term), then I wouldn't worry about taking the odd shot.
Very strict BRM should be for people who either play for a living or simply can't afford to deposit again should they go busto. Obviously, good BRM is a big aspect of poker, but if you want to try and go for a big score occasionally then fill your boots I say.
I thought the whole point of the diary was to help stop him taking too many shots... I think hhy and Teddy both have valid points...
its only taking a shot when its an occasional thing, or if you set a small amount of your BR aside to try and make it in bigger games, but if your doing it all the time, its just playing outside of your BR.
for example, if you have £150 in your BR, you might decide to set aside £50 to take a shot at £5 tourneys, then drop back down to £2 tourneys if it doesnt work out, or as a one off, play in a £33 main event etc. The main thing to make sure of is that you have a good enough bankroll to play your main games AFTER you have taken a shot and failed...
of course, if you dont mind depositing whenever you feel like playing and the previous night or 2 hasnt gone well, then you dont have to worry about it.
Played 1 x £250 Gtd Speed Rebuy (result: 25th, top 12 cashed).
Went out on this hand, fairly cruel after I was coming back well from a poor start.
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
mystro
Small blind
600.00
600.00
21302.50
peter27
Big blind
1200.00
1800.00
9638.32
Your hole cards
10
9
Paulie_5
Fold
timbo84
Fold
chauni1990
Call
1200.00
3000.00
10930.00
mystro
Call
600.00
3600.00
20702.50
peter27
Check
Flop
2
9
2
mystro
Bet
1200.00
4800.00
19502.50
peter27
All-in
9638.32
14438.32
0.00
chauni1990
Fold
mystro
Call
8438.32
22876.64
11064.18
mystro
Show
8
8
peter27
Show
10
9
Turn
8
River
10
mystro
Win
Full House, 8s and 2s
22876.64
33940.82
Played 2 x £1 DYM's (results: 2nd, 2nd) Played 1 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (result: 1st)
I won the six-max in comical fashion, and it shows why I am not ready to multi-table yet:
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
welsh65
Small blind
100.00
100.00
2487.50
peter27
Big blind
200.00
300.00
4400.00
Your hole cards
7
Q
HitOnRiver
All-in
1812.50
2112.50
0.00
welsh65
Call
1712.50
3825.00
775.00
peter27
All-in
4400.00
8225.00
0.00
welsh65
All-in
775.00
9000.00
0.00
peter27
Unmatched bet
2012.50
6987.50
2012.50
welsh65
Show
K
A
peter27
Show
7
Q
HitOnRiver
Show
A
9
Flop
J
4
7
Turn
9
River
A
peter27
Win
Flush to the Queen
6987.50
9000.00
I guess the question you're going to ask is why did I go all-in pre-flop with 7Q when two players already committed? I was playing one of the DYM's at the same time, and got dealt AA - I thought that was on this table and quickly went all-in .. -.-
Thankfully, it all worked out okay though! I do feel like my luck is back now so I'm going to play quite a lot tomorrow :-)
Also earned £10 from the guess the goals forum competition - balance now £47.55, will update the first post now!
You know whats wrong, peter and how to fix it. Just need your discipline back. Dont chase spots outside your brm evem if it's got percieved value. Put it this way if I offered you a 55% edge for your whole life roll it would be +ev but if you continued taking those +ev flips for your roll you would be guarenteed to go broke eventually. Stay disciplined and allow your skill to grow your roll again. reread your diary. Very best of luck, I hope it all turns round for you... Posted by TeddyBloat
Very good point that! I guess sometimes I just feel like it is worth the risk for the potential winnings? For example, "The chance to win a seat to torunament x and potentially take £1000, that's got to be worth £2 of anyone's money" .. I know this is wrong though!
Peter, if you can deposit again without it compromising your life roll (for want of a better term), then I wouldn't worry about taking the odd shot. Very strict BRM should be for people who either play for a living or simply can't afford to deposit again should they go busto. Obviously, good BRM is a big aspect of poker, but if you want to try and go for a big score occasionally then fill your boots I say. Christmas UKOPS is coming.... Posted by hhyftrftdr
Haha, "life roll" - what a great phrase
I could easily re-deposit again, but I'm trying to become a consistent winning player and poor BRM won't allow me to do that. I want to be withdrawing from Sky Poker, not depositing.
its only taking a shot when its an occasional thing Posted by chicknMelt
So you're saying it is okay to take a shot from time to time if your bankroll still be decent if you lost. In that case define "an occasional thing" for me in terms of duration? :-)
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : Very good point that! I guess sometimes I just feel like it is worth the risk for the potential winnings? For example, "The chance to win a seat to torunament x and potentially take £1000, that's got to be worth £2 of anyone's money" .. I know this is wrong though! In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : Haha, "life roll" - what a great phrase I could easily re-deposit again, but I'm trying to become a consistent winning player and poor BRM won't allow me to do that. I want to be withdrawing from Sky Poker, not depositing. Yes - christmas UKOPS is coming! What a dilema! In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : So you're saying it is okay to take a shot from time to time if your bankroll still be decent if you lost. In that case define "an occasional thing" for me in terms of duration? :-) Posted by peter27
Occasional is probably the wrong word- all that matters is that your bankroll can cope with it. In general I would think you want to be taking shots at the next level up too rather than much bigger buy ins...
As an example, you might want to follow a 40 Buy in rule, and have £40, so should be playing £1 tourneys. But if you binked £20 in a tourney you should probably use that £20 to take a 10' buy in shot at £2 games- but if there is a £10 tourney we have always wanted to play, we might play that instead of 5 of the £2 buy ins.
I think this kind of approach is the most likely to stop you going broke as well as give you good chance to move up.
Played 1 x £25 Guaranteed (result: first player out ..) Played 1 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (result: 2nd) Played 2 x 50p Turbo DYM's (results: 1st, 2nd) Played 2 x £1 Turbo DYM's (results: 2nd, 2nd) Played 2 x £2 Turbo DYM's (results: 6th, 3rd) Played 1 x £3 DYM (result: 6th)
Clearly I played a lot of DYM's today - was trying the DYM laddering challenge, failed at level four sadly!
Balance now £45.05, will update the first post now :-) Will reply to the messages above tomorrow.
Must apologise for my lack of updates, spent the weekend with my girlfriend so didn't play any poker. Started again today though and had a good day!
Played 4 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 5th, 1st, 4th, 6th) Played 1 x £300 Free Cash FR (result: got knocked out early) Played 1 x 10K BH All-In Sat (result: did not qualify) Played 1 x £200 DTD 3 (result: 8th out of 123 to take £10.21)
Want to show one hand from the £200 DTD 3, quite pleased with my check on the river hoping to induce a raise, worked great!
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
REDSPADES
Small blind
20.00
20.00
1925.00
peter27
Big blind
40.00
60.00
2475.00
Your hole cards
4
6
NumberWon
Call
40.00
100.00
3405.00
jsheldon11
Fold
Mylena
Fold
markob8
Call
40.00
140.00
1735.00
REDSPADES
Call
20.00
160.00
1905.00
peter27
Check
Flop
2
7
3
REDSPADES
Check
peter27
Check
NumberWon
Check
markob8
Bet
40.00
200.00
1695.00
REDSPADES
Fold
peter27
Call
40.00
240.00
2435.00
NumberWon
Call
40.00
280.00
3365.00
Turn
5
peter27
Check
NumberWon
Check
markob8
Bet
40.00
320.00
1655.00
peter27
Call
40.00
360.00
2395.00
NumberWon
Call
40.00
400.00
3325.00
River
7
peter27
Check
NumberWon
Check
markob8
All-in
1655.00
2055.00
0.00
peter27
Call
1655.00
3710.00
740.00
NumberWon
Fold
peter27
Show
4
6
markob8
Show
7
J
peter27
Win
Straight to the 7
3710.00
4450.00
Balance is now £50.76, will update the first post now! Will also reply to those messages above in the next 10 minutes - sorry for the delay!
I take the 'ocassional shot' almost on a daily basis. I seem to do OK, although the swings arent fantastic... If you can afford to deposit, you could start playing higher games still within good BRM? Just an idea if your fed up grinding the smaller games... You're money and all that... Posted by gazza127
Hmm interesting - but the point is that I don't want to have to re-deposit. I am trying to become a player who withdraws, not deposits
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player : Occasional is probably the wrong word- all that matters is that your bankroll can cope with it. In general I would think you want to be taking shots at the next level up too rather than much bigger buy ins... As an example, you might want to follow a 40 Buy in rule, and have £40, so should be playing £1 tourneys. But if you binked £20 in a tourney you should probably use that £20 to take a 10' buy in shot at £2 games- but if there is a £10 tourney we have always wanted to play, we might play that instead of 5 of the £2 buy ins. I think this kind of approach is the most likely to stop you going broke as well as give you good chance to move up. Posted by chicknMelt
That sounds like a great idea, thank you very much! Will give this a whirl :-)
Right, yesterdays update! Played an awful lot of tournaments with the following results:
Played 6 x £1 Heads-Up (Hyper) (results: 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 1st) Played 1 x 50p DYM (result: 5th) Played 1 x £1 Russian Roulette (result: 1st) Played 1 x £25 Guaranteed* (result: 6th) Played 1 x 5K Open Super Sat** (result: 8th, qualified!) Played 1 x 5K Open All-In (result: did not qualify) - was trying to get an extra £11 Played 1 x 5K Turbo Open*** (result: 9th!!)
* This was one of the maddest tournaments I've ever seen! Only 19 players entered, but there were 16 re-buys and 9 add-ons meaning the prize pool was very big. I did not take any re-buys or add-ons and was running very strongly. The top three got paid but sadly I got knocked out with QQ against AA to finish in 6th place.
** Qualified despite this harsh hand:
Player
Action
Cards
Amount
Pot
Balance
alan1506
Small blind
30.00
30.00
6050.00
Initfun
Big blind
60.00
90.00
905.00
Your hole cards
10
J
DARK4NIGHT
Fold
peter27
Raise
120.00
210.00
5767.50
ringbeam1
Call
120.00
330.00
1360.00
DiamondDec
Fold
alan1506
Fold
Initfun
Fold
Flop
8
6
5
peter27
Check
ringbeam1
Bet
240.00
570.00
1120.00
peter27
Call
240.00
810.00
5527.50
Turn
10
peter27
Check
ringbeam1
All-in
1120.00
1930.00
0.00
peter27
Call
1120.00
3050.00
4407.50
peter27
Show
10
J
ringbeam1
Show
5
5
River
8
ringbeam1
Win
Full House, 5s and 8s
3050.00
3050.00
*** Took away £89.60 for that 9th place! Also won the last longer competition to win free entry into Thursday's £12K Sky Sports BH :-)
Balance is now a whopping £136.26!! Will update the first post now. I guess this means I can now enter £5 tournaments. Also happy to have a much better bankroll ahead of christmas UKOPS :-)
P.S. The job interview went very well, in case you were wondering.
Comments
Well, when I started this diary - I had never really experienced long-term variance like some people were telling me exists! I have now though ..
Played 3 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 3rd, 3rd, 6th)
Played 1 x £1 Heads-Up (Turbo) (result: 2nd)
Down to £49.35 ... really need this downswing to stop
Will update the first post now.
Day 38
Broke my BRM in a big way (this was Sunday). Saw a £20K Roller Direct torunament in the very late stages of late reg, cost £12 to register - and there were only 8 players left with the winner qualifying and the person in second place winning cash! I decided to enter purely because of the value, it was too good not to take!
The reason I was so angry? Finished 3rd ... went out in a horrible way too! 2nd place would have netted me £88!! Gutted. Although don't have any regrets.
Day 39
One more shot at qualifying for the Super Roller, but just via a cheap £20K All-In Sat this time, didn't manage to qualify though!
Day 40 (today)
Played 1 x £25 Guarnteed (result: 2nd, won £7.50) - I haven't played these tournaments a lot, but I do seem to cash in them when I do, might start playing them more regularly!
Played 2 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 3rd, 3rd) - Not having a lot of luck in Six-Max right now, may switch to DYM's again from tomorrow.
Balance is now £37.45, will update the first post now. If I carry on like this I will need to re-deposit soon ..
Well I've had an interesting day!
Played 1 x £250 Gtd Speed Rebuy (result: 25th, top 12 cashed).
Went out on this hand, fairly cruel after I was coming back well from a poor start.
Played 1 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (result: 1st)
I won the six-max in comical fashion, and it shows why I am not ready to multi-table yet:
Thankfully, it all worked out okay though! I do feel like my luck is back now so I'm going to play quite a lot tomorrow :-)
Also earned £10 from the guess the goals forum competition - balance now £47.55, will update the first post now!
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player: Haha, "life roll" - what a great phrase
I could easily re-deposit again, but I'm trying to become a consistent winning player and poor BRM won't allow me to do that. I want to be withdrawing from Sky Poker, not depositing.
Yes - christmas UKOPS is coming! What a dilema!
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player: So you're saying it is okay to take a shot from time to time if your bankroll still be decent if you lost. In that case define "an occasional thing" for me in terms of duration? :-)
If you can afford to deposit, you could start playing higher games still within good BRM? Just an idea if your fed up grinding the smaller games...
You're money and all that...
Quick post today, need to get to sleep!
Played 1 x £25 Guaranteed (result: first player out ..)
Played 1 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (result: 2nd)
Played 2 x 50p Turbo DYM's (results: 1st, 2nd)
Played 2 x £1 Turbo DYM's (results: 2nd, 2nd)
Played 2 x £2 Turbo DYM's (results: 6th, 3rd)
Played 1 x £3 DYM (result: 6th)
Clearly I played a lot of DYM's today - was trying the DYM laddering challenge, failed at level four sadly!
Balance now £45.05, will update the first post now :-) Will reply to the messages above tomorrow.
Must apologise for my lack of updates, spent the weekend with my girlfriend so didn't play any poker. Started again today though and had a good day!
Played 4 x £1 Six-Max (Speed) (results: 5th, 1st, 4th, 6th)
Played 1 x £300 Free Cash FR (result: got knocked out early)
Played 1 x 10K BH All-In Sat (result: did not qualify)
Played 1 x £200 DTD 3 (result: 8th out of 123 to take £10.21)
Want to show one hand from the £200 DTD 3, quite pleased with my check on the river hoping to induce a raise, worked great!
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player: That sounds like a great idea, thank you very much! Will give this a whirl :-)
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player: Haha, I like having a range of opinions - makes for interesting debate! ;-)
In Response to Re: Diary of a fledgling player: Yes, "fans" haha. Saw you got knocked out in the DTD tournament, you were running so well early on too! :-(
Anyhow, just wanted to post/boast about finishing 9th in tonights main event to take £89.60 - that changes my bankroll considerably
Right, yesterdays update! Played an awful lot of tournaments with the following results:
Played 6 x £1 Heads-Up (Hyper) (results: 1st, 2nd, 1st, 2nd, 2nd, 1st)
Played 1 x 50p DYM (result: 5th)
Played 1 x £1 Russian Roulette (result: 1st)
Played 1 x £25 Guaranteed* (result: 6th)
Played 1 x 5K Open Super Sat** (result: 8th, qualified!)
Played 1 x 5K Open All-In (result: did not qualify) - was trying to get an extra £11
Played 1 x 5K Turbo Open*** (result: 9th!!)
* This was one of the maddest tournaments I've ever seen! Only 19 players entered, but there were 16 re-buys and 9 add-ons meaning the prize pool was very big. I did not take any re-buys or add-ons and was running very strongly. The top three got paid but sadly I got knocked out with QQ against AA to finish in 6th place.
** Qualified despite this harsh hand:
Balance is now a whopping £136.26!! Will update the first post now. I guess this means I can now enter £5 tournaments. Also happy to have a much better bankroll ahead of christmas UKOPS :-)
P.S. The job interview went very well, in case you were wondering.