Hi Churchy, I think I've played you enough times to offer a little advice. Firstly, I'd recommend you find a game you are most comfortable with, either the £1 or £2 DYM. Stick to it, don't deviate. The bank roll you have set yourself, isn't imo, big enough to play the £5 DYM games. Although the best DYM player in the world can often win ten games on the trot, the very same player can very easily lose five games straight. That isn't a problem if the bank roll can accomodate such losses, but it is a problem if the losing streak leaves you busto. That's the last thing you want to happen. There's also a danger that you will be scared to lose if you are playing too high a stake DYM. If that happens your game will be affected. Secondly, be selective with your hands in the early levels. Very selective. You will know by name the regular players who are more than keen to call with any four. As you know, these guys try to get involved in every pot. During the early levels, playing only the best starting hands at least maximises your chance (over the long run) of beating them. Thirdly, and probably most importantly, as others have said, when it gets to the later stages, the final four, get aggressive. Especially if you are short stacked. Don't flat call with a good hand, get your chips in the middle, If you run into a better hand, so be it, if you get outdrawn by rubbish, so be it. In the long run, being aggressive wins out. People will fold if they are holding junk and you raising with above average hands will see you winning more hands than not, when you do get called/put all-in. Finally, (From very personal experience I know this!) try not to play if you are distracted or half busy doing something else at the same time. The times I have miss-clicked, or literally misread my cards is insane. The game is hard enough to win when fully concentrated on what is happening, so don't reduce your chances even further by playing with one eye on the screen. That must be difficult with a new baby (congrats btw) but try your best. It is possible to win and to build a bankroll playing DYMs, it does just take time, patience, and a love of the game you are playing. You have to enjoy it, it is afterall a game, a hobby. That ultimately has to be more important than simply playing a game in order to win money. Very best of luck to you and everyone else at the HiLo tables. Apart from that bloke who calls everyone a clown, or worse. He needs a smacked bottom as he's a very naughty boy. Posted by Macacgirl1
Dont think ive ever played one of these in my life but just wanted to say that this post is sheer class imo
Anyone playing these should make a copy of this and follow it religiously
Not only does it go well for these but playing in the way Macacgirl has described would make you a winner in all forms of poker in general and also would make you a better loser which is almost as important imo because it makes it easier to dust yourself down after a bad session and start again.
Best of luck with your diary churchy mate sorry i cant offer any advice on these things but i think Macacgirl has gave you all the advice you need to make a real go of it already
"....was down to last £8 odds so thought was going too have too deposit again. so thought why not just go for it and entered the £100gtd hi/lo tournament and went on too win it and got £62.50 :@)....."
yeah phantom bad br managment i,am not used too having such small margins for error and am used too just playing any hi/lo games on the go at any time i fancy so this is very hard too get used too.
ty mp33 have been playing tighter and trying to get it in good but just keep getting stung.
dimunuendo it was a great post from macac all good advice i have been getting it in but getting some crazy calls and just some bad calls by myself have not helped been running really bad in the dyms. think some of it is frustration and getting annoyed at my self.
Was thinking i was going too have too deposit tikay as was just not hitting any sort of form and was winning 2 and then losing 2 and so on so thought why not give it a go luckily it worked out saved me putting £50 in too start again.
So now my br should be ok for the £2.25 dyms which i will stick too until i can hit the £100 mark(if i ever get there:@)
so from today i will stick too the £2.25 dyms and see how i get on..good luck all now a couple of hands. any thoughts/advice on them welcomed.
Agree 1st hand I'd just call the river. bet. Plus no need to be playing for stacks at 10/20 blinds when cant be sure where you are.
2nd hand in the end it is a poor call by opponent and you may feel it's a bad beat, but as Vespa says it's a poor starting hand to be calling a raise with. Again even at 25/50 is 2 pair enough to play for stacks?
Generally I try and play small ball poker with good starting hands in early stages and only play for stacks when very strong post flop. I'll wait until blinds are high before shoving/calling a shove with 2 pair hands.
First hand, we have AA28 double suited which is 1 of the best hands (?) and we're on the button in an unopened pot, should we not be raising to start building a pot @ 10/20?
If we're not raising this spot, is there any hand/position we are willing to raise pre flop?
First hand, we have AA28 double suited which is 1 of the best hands (?) and we're on the button in an unopened pot, should we not be raising to start building a pot @ 10/20? If we're not raising this spot, is there any hand/position we are willing to raise pre flop? Posted by DOHHHHHHH
I'd probably raise it - because it is a playable hand and we are on the button in an unopened pot - it's not 1 of the BEST hands though. apart from the suited A the 8 connects with nothing.
Therefore we are only really playing AA, A8s, A2s (A2o and A8o are irrelevant and 28 is pants)
hi all hope all is good well time for another wee update on how things are going!
I did,nt play many on friday played a few £2.25 and a couple of £5.50 games think i played about ten and then just got on with boozing and gave up....
yesterday i played a few games i forgot too write all the games down and also forgot too put how much my balance was on my last update but i think it was about £60 so going by that i did ok as it now stands at a pretty healthy £90.58
Yesterday was a strange day was on 1 table and there was 1 chap on 6.350 chips 2 of us had like a 1000 each and the other guy had 3.500 .The strange thing was that he was just getting it in every hand and too start with he got away with it. then it was down too the 4 me and 2 solid regular players and then it all went down the swannie.
1st thing he did was get it all in and gets called by the other shortie and doubles him up.
then he trys too take the player with 3.500 chips bb and that player shoves on him and doubles up so there is me sitting on under 1000 chips and thinking im going out my next hand 300 level and i get a2kq a great starting hand so i know im all in but this player again just shoves in so i get them in and the cards turn over and he has aaa9! WTF any1 that plays hi/lo knows this is not a hand too be getting in with as u are only playing a pair of aces. any way i double up too just over 2000 chips. he then got it in next hand v the big stack and the big stack duly knocked him out...never think the game is done till its over..
Any way from today i will write every game/result down i play so i can give more details
Tryed the ps4 freeroll today and as you can see flop trips and decide too try and slow play it too try get as much in the pots as possible and then boom get my bum felt on the river busted out with at v aj 2 hands later.
RossMc
Sit out
churchy18
Small blind
10.00
10.00
1880.00
Hippy4
Big blind
20.00
30.00
3120.00
Your hole cards
K
J
Keyser05
Fold
wanturmo28
Fold
onebet
Raise
80.00
110.00
860.00
churchy18
Call
70.00
180.00
1810.00
Hippy4
Fold
Flop
J
J
4
churchy18
Check
onebet
Check
Turn
Q
churchy18
Bet
180.00
360.00
1630.00
onebet
Call
180.00
540.00
680.00
River
9
churchy18
Bet
680.00
1220.00
950.00
onebet
All-in
680.00
1900.00
0.00
churchy18
Show
K
J
onebet
Show
10
8
onebet
Win
Straight to the Queen
1900.00
1900.00
anyway onto today going too go play the wee £1.10 hi/lo game at 2.55 seem too be doing well in these wee ones won1 yesterday as well forgot about that only £9.50 for winning but thats a decent return for £1.10 entry ooh and forgot i got £3.33 from the £00 freeroll yesterday as well... good luck all on the tables £90.58 also got a £2.40 poker token as well don,t know if i can put the code here but any1 wanting it go have a look on sky bet..hopefully its ok me saying that i would imagine its fine though as it is a promotion for any1 that sees it
yesterday i just could not get a run of wins again and just could not get that into the games baby crying quite a bit takes away a lot of concentration leading too a few silly calls/plays..
But at least i stuck on the £2.25 games only played 15 games yesterday won 9 lost 6 so a small profit of £2.25
played the mini freeroll finished about 33 or there cant check my tables as lots are missing in that section the last mini i played according too that was the 17th so can,t say exactly where i finished also played the 300 free and busted out pretty quick only played 1 of them as forgot too register for the other.
played a £2.20 heads up game and won that so another £1.90 there
played the 3 £1.10 hi/lo tournaments in the 1st finished 5th and got £2.79 really should have won it but got distracted by some1 tokingalotatosh and think he is funny too call people jock hunts and so on but hey ho the sit out lasted longer m8 lol...talking about the sit out was unbelievable he was down too 200 odd chips and was forced in several times and won a pot about 8 times on the spin when forced in crazy stuff!
lost in the other 2 just could not concentrate so lost 51p on those
My balance now stands at ££94.22 only a small profit yesterday but a profit is a profit.
good luck in your games people.
this hand here was i right too get it in i knew the oppo was going too be playing any hand that came.
Tsychony1
Small blind
100.00
100.00
5697.00
churchy18
Big blind
200.00
300.00
2164.50
Your hole cards
2
3
A
10
la
Raise
700.00
1000.00
123.50
Macacgirl1
Fold
Arfur
Fold
Tsychony1
Fold
churchy18
Raise
2000.00
3000.00
164.50
la
All-in
123.50
3123.50
0.00
churchy18
Unmatched bet
1376.50
1747.00
1541.00
churchy18
Show
2
3
A
10
la
Show
8
Q
3
2
Flop
8
9
K
Turn
9
River
Q
la
Win high
Two Pairs, Queens and 9s
1747.00
1747.00
i like these kind of hands double suited connectors..should i be playing hands like these
jazzyjay05
Small blind
150.00
150.00
1387.50
D
Big blind
300.00
450.00
2266.25
Your hole cards
4
A
8
9
gazzguf
Fold
Macacgirl1
Fold
churchy18
Call
300.00
750.00
3795.00
RUMI
Fold
jazzyjay05
Call
150.00
900.00
1237.50
D
Check
Flop
Q
10
J
jazzyjay05
Check
D
Check
churchy18
Bet
900.00
1800.00
2895.00
jazzyjay05
Fold
D
Call
900.00
2700.00
1366.25
Turn
7
D
Bet
300.00
3000.00
1066.25
churchy18
Call
300.00
3300.00
2595.00
River
5
D
All-in
1066.25
4366.25
0.00
churchy18
Call
1066.25
5432.50
1528.75
D
Show
3
5
2
8
churchy18
Show
4
A
8
9
churchy18
Win high
Flush to the Ace
5432.50
6961.25
i would say this is a decent starting hand!
churchy18
Small blind
15.00
15.00
1955.00
RUMI
Big blind
30.00
45.00
1915.00
Your hole cards
3
K
A
K
jazzyjay05
Fold
yD
Call
30.00
75.00
1860.00
gazzguf
Fold
Macacgirl1
Fold
churchy18
Raise
105.00
180.00
1850.00
RUMI
Fold
yD
Call
90.00
270.00
1770.00
Flop
A
10
2
churchy18
Check
yD
Check
Turn
2
churchy18
Bet
270.00
540.00
1580.00
yD
Raise
540.00
1080.00
1230.00
churchy18
Call
270.00
1350.00
1310.00
River
6
churchy18
Bet
30.00
1380.00
1280.00
D
Raise
60.00
1440.00
1170.00
churchy18
Call
30.00
1470.00
1250.00
yD
Show
9
Q
7
9
churchy18
Show
3
K
A
K
churchy18
Win high
Flush to the Ace
1470.00
2720.00
another crazy play by 17!
17
Small blind
25.00
25.00
3101.25
1964
Big blind
50.00
75.00
2390.00
Your hole cards
10
3
9
2
man
Call
50.00
125.00
1572.50
churchy18
Call
50.00
175.00
8366.25
elleben2
Fold
Rayzor7
Fold
17
Raise
225.00
400.00
2876.25
julie1964
Call
200.00
600.00
2190.00
man
Raise
1000.00
1600.00
572.50
churchy18
Fold
17
All-in
2876.25
4476.25
0.00
1964
All-in
2190.00
6666.25
0.00
man
All-in
572.50
7238.75
0.00
17
Unmatched bet
686.25
6552.50
686.25
17
Show
K
4
Q
K
1964
Show
3
A
A
J
man
Show
2
A
9
5
Flop
6
J
4
Turn
7
River
J
1964
Win high
Three Jacks
3276.25
3276.25
man
Win low
7-low
2458.75
2458.75
1964
Win low
7-low
817.50
4093.75
only posting thiis hand too show what kind of hands not too play and what u are up against with some players!
played 10 £2.25 dyms won 4 and lost 6 of them -£6.50
played 4@£5.50 won 2 lost 2 -£2 on them
then registered for a £5.50 6max by mistake but won it so got £19.50 back on that profit £14
played 2x £2.20 six max games finished 2nd in 1 and 1st in the other for £12 a profit of £7.60
then played a £3.30 timed game and got £5.03 back for that..should have had double that but on the last hand i took a risk and called an all in for just over a third of my stack oooh well at least still got a small profit on it.
played 2 £1.10 hi/lo tournaments lost 1 and won 1 for £7 so £4.80 up on them
really just can,t get a run going in the dyms need too do better..so my balance stands at £112.85 but as i said money is a bit tight so i have took £40 out (got football and don,t want too ask the mrs for more cash did,nt want didnt want too say but better being honest:@( )but in way that is good i started with a roll of £24ish busted and put another £20 in my account so bar from the £4 iam playing with winnings and not my own money.
so my balance is now standing at £72.85 not too bad but really need too do better in the dyms
Good luck with this mate. Was fun playing the PLO8 tourny with you. Is that the one you went on to win? Posted by cenachav
yeah mate won that yesterday won the one at 9.20 as well:@) not bad after playing so badly at the start .congrats too u as well in the rainman deepstack vwp and good luck mate
so yesterday played really bad at times was unlucky at other times lost 5/5 to start a mix of £2 and £5 games so was chasing it from early on.really bad day just could not get going yesterday should have just left it for the day after the 1st few games.
just got into the thinking no matter what i was playing i was losing. but things will pick up just need too start paying more attention and stop playing when im doing other things ...right here is how it went yesterday..
played 7 £2.25 lost 6 so lost -£11.75 on these
played 12 £5.50s won 5 lost 7 for a loss of -£16
played the £100 gtd hi/lo busted out after a bad call and bad play. -£5.50
played a £100 timed tournament busted a pair of tens v kk maybe should not have put my chips it in but i did. -£5.50
also played a £2.20 six max busted in that 1 would probably play more of these but it takes ages too get them too fill up
played 3 of the £1.10 hi/lo tournaments won 2 of them for a profit
a total loss of £33.70 yesterday ouch... so balance is standing at £39.15
I hope my chips helped your roll increase tonight ! :-)
One thing i did notice in one game was that you had over 4k chips (5 handed) and still limping into multi way hands. Could fold to the cash with that stack.
cheers vespa i know what u mean with the sitting out i do try and sit it out but i always seem too get dragged into it again when its down too 4 so im kind of wary doing it i feel for me its better too just try and get as much chips as possible till its done.p.s i,am sure u will take them back again...
so onto yesterday started of with a few losses then started too get a few wins later in the night and just as i feel im starting too get into a rythme again the games dried up typical..
never wrote all games down had baby and son to deal with all day and night and just can,t be bothered going too check history..
i played a lot better yesterday except i played a £11 game and just wasn,t concentrating and seen a hand that was not there doh! was happier with how i played yesterday even although i still ended up down but at least i feel i played alot better than i have for a couple of days..
played 2 £2.25 and won 2 today so far and reged in 2 more and my balance is sitting at £31.25 so onwards and upwards time for me too get that back up today no kids till tonight so try get a few games while i have some peace and quiet target for today is too be back upto £50 good luck all
hand3: fold pre - if the pot was unopened, i would raise, but as played I think its a fold vs a player who basically went AI.no need to take any risks like this with your stack and the blinds as they are.
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Hand4:snap fold pre...horrible hand.
Hand5: again, why limp? you have to fold to a raise behind you. Its not that strong a hand. if the table is very passive, then i guess limping is ok.
hand6: fold on the turn... its omaha, you havent go the flush or any low possibilities, and there is a bet and a rr in front of you. I cant get the cards in the muck quick enough personally
thanks for the reply chickenmelt I posted these more too let a wee bit of steam of and too try and get my self playing better. i stopped playing dyms had a go at the freerolls as was just getting called with any hand they had there was some crazy play going on over the last few days.so had a break and then got back too it,
i agree with you on all except maybe the last hand. i found that 1 a hard 1 too let go had 10 outs and was pretty sure had the best hand on flop the other 2 players i know wellish on the hi/lo games so know that both will go all in trying too force a fold with any cards which they did feel on that hand i would win it more than lose it.
Comments
Dont think ive ever played one of these in my life but just wanted to say that this post is sheer class imo
Anyone playing these should make a copy of this and follow it religiously
Not only does it go well for these but playing in the way Macacgirl has described would make you a winner in all forms of poker in general and also would make you a better loser which is almost as important imo because it makes it easier to dust yourself down after a bad session and start again.
Best of luck with your diary churchy mate sorry i cant offer any advice on these things but i think Macacgirl has gave you all the advice you need to make a real go of it already
Good Luck
Kev
"....was down to last £8 odds so thought was going too have too deposit again. so thought why not just go for it and entered the £100gtd hi/lo tournament and went on too win it and got £62.50 :@)....."
Degen alert.
Incredible!
ty mp33 have been playing tighter and trying to get it in good but just keep getting stung.
dimunuendo it was a great post from macac all good advice i have been getting it in but getting some crazy calls and just some bad calls by myself have not helped been running really bad in the dyms. think some of it is frustration and getting annoyed at my self.
Was thinking i was going too have too deposit tikay as was just not hitting any sort of form and was winning 2 and then losing 2 and so on so thought why not give it a go luckily it worked out saved me putting £50 in too start again.
So now my br should be ok for the £2.25 dyms which i will stick too until i can hit the £100 mark(if i ever get there:@)
so from today i will stick too the £2.25 dyms and see how i get on..good luck all
now a couple of hands. any thoughts/advice on them welcomed.
Im no expert but
1st hand probably just calling the river bet after facing 2 pot bets.
Still early in the game to recover.
2nd hand - bin it preflop.
See ya laters
2nd hand in the end it is a poor call by opponent and you may feel it's a bad beat, but as Vespa says it's a poor starting hand to be calling a raise with. Again even at 25/50 is 2 pair enough to play for stacks?
Generally I try and play small ball poker with good starting hands in early stages and only play for stacks when very strong post flop. I'll wait until blinds are high before shoving/calling a shove with 2 pair hands.
First hand, we have AA28 double suited which is 1 of the best hands (?) and we're on the button in an unopened pot, should we not be raising to start building a pot @ 10/20?
If we're not raising this spot, is there any hand/position we are willing to raise pre flop?
Therefore we are only really playing AA, A8s, A2s (A2o and A8o are irrelevant and 28 is pants)
I did,nt play many on friday played a few £2.25 and a couple of £5.50 games think i played about ten and then just got on with boozing and gave up....
yesterday i played a few games i forgot too write all the games down and also forgot too put how much my balance was on my last update but i think it was about £60 so going by that i did ok as it now stands at a pretty healthy £90.58
Yesterday was a strange day was on 1 table and there was 1 chap on 6.350 chips 2 of us had like a 1000 each and the other guy had 3.500 .The strange thing was that he was just getting it in every hand and too start with he got away with it. then it was down too the 4 me and 2 solid regular players and then it all went down the swannie.
1st thing he did was get it all in and gets called by the other shortie and doubles him up.
then he trys too take the player with 3.500 chips bb and that player shoves on him and doubles up so there is me sitting on under 1000 chips and thinking im going out my next hand 300 level and i get a2kq a great starting hand so i know im all in but this player again just shoves in so i get them in and the cards turn over and he has aaa9! WTF any1 that plays hi/lo knows this is not a hand too be getting in with as u are only playing a pair of aces. any way i double up too just over 2000 chips. he then got it in next hand v the big stack and the big stack duly knocked him out...never think the game is done till its over..
Any way from today i will write every game/result down i play so i can give more details
Tryed the ps4 freeroll today and as you can see flop trips and decide too try and slow play it too try get as much in the pots as possible and then boom get my bum felt on the river busted out with at v aj 2 hands later.
ooh and forgot i got £3.33 from the £00 freeroll yesterday as well...
good luck all on the tables £90.58 also got a £2.40 poker token as well don,t know if i can put the code here but any1 wanting it go have a look on sky bet..hopefully its ok me saying that i would imagine its fine though as it is a promotion for any1 that sees it
But at least i stuck on the £2.25 games only played 15 games yesterday won 9 lost 6 so a small profit of £2.25
played the mini freeroll finished about 33 or there cant check my tables as lots are missing in that section the last mini i played according too that was the 17th so can,t say exactly where i finished also played the 300 free and busted out pretty quick only played 1 of them as forgot too register for the other.
played a £2.20 heads up game and won that so another £1.90 there
played the 3 £1.10 hi/lo tournaments in the 1st finished 5th and got £2.79 really should have won it but got distracted by some1 tokingalotatosh and think he is funny too call people jock hunts and so on but hey ho the sit out lasted longer m8 lol...talking about the sit out was unbelievable he was down too 200 odd chips and was forced in several times and won a pot about 8 times on the spin when forced in crazy stuff!
lost in the other 2 just could not concentrate so lost 51p on those
My balance now stands at ££94.22 only a small profit yesterday but a profit is a profit.
good luck in your games people.
this hand here was i right too get it in i knew the oppo was going too be playing any hand that came.
i would say this is a decent starting hand!
played 4@£5.50 won 2 lost 2 -£2 on them
then registered for a £5.50 6max by mistake but won it so got £19.50 back on that profit £14
played 2x £2.20 six max games finished 2nd in 1 and 1st in the other for £12 a profit of £7.60
then played a £3.30 timed game and got £5.03 back for that..should have had double that but on the last hand i took a risk and called an all in for just over a third of my stack oooh well at least still got a small profit on it.
played 2 £1.10 hi/lo tournaments lost 1 and won 1 for £7 so £4.80 up on them
really just can,t get a run going in the dyms need too do better..so my balance stands at £112.85 but as i said money is a bit tight so i have took £40 out (got football and don,t want too ask the mrs for more cash did,nt want didnt want too say but better being honest:@( )but in way that is good i started with a roll of £24ish busted and put another £20 in my account so bar from the £4 iam playing with winnings and not my own money.
so my balance is now standing at £72.85 not too bad but really need too do better in the dyms
good luck all
just got into the thinking no matter what i was playing i was losing. but things will pick up just need too start paying more attention and stop playing when im doing other things ...right here is how it went yesterday..
played 7 £2.25 lost 6 so lost -£11.75 on these
played 12 £5.50s won 5 lost 7 for a loss of -£16
played the £100 gtd hi/lo busted out after a bad call and bad play. -£5.50
played a £100 timed tournament busted a pair of tens v kk maybe should not have put my chips it in but i did. -£5.50
also played a £2.20 six max busted in that 1 would probably play more of these but it takes ages too get them too fill up
played 3 of the £1.10 hi/lo tournaments won 2 of them for a profit
a total loss of £33.70 yesterday ouch... so balance is standing at £39.15
hopefully a better night tonight gl all
One thing i did notice in one game was that you had over 4k chips (5 handed) and still limping into multi way hands.
Could fold to the cash with that stack.
Gl m8
I'll be back !!
so onto yesterday started of with a few losses then started too get a few wins later in the night and just as i feel im starting too get into a rythme again the games dried up typical..
never wrote all games down had baby and son to deal with all day and night and just can,t be bothered going too check history..
i played a lot better yesterday except i played a £11 game and just wasn,t concentrating and seen a hand that was not there doh! was happier with how i played yesterday even although i still ended up down but at least i feel i played alot better than i have for a couple of days..
played 2 £2.25 and won 2 today so far and reged in 2 more and my balance is sitting at £31.25 so onwards and upwards time for me too get that back up today no kids till tonight so try get a few games while i have some peace and quiet target for today is too be back upto £50 good luck all
i stopped playing dyms had a go at the freerolls as was just getting called with any hand they had there was some crazy play going on over the last few days.so had a break and then got back too it,
i agree with you on all except maybe the last hand. i found that 1 a hard 1 too let go had 10 outs and was pretty sure had the best hand on flop the other 2 players i know wellish on the hi/lo games so know that both will go all in trying too force a fold with any cards which they did feel on that hand i would win it more than lose it.
good luck