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  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014
    Well, wasnt olanning in pkaying last night, but tried a sat for the main, 

    Won that, and also 2 all in sats. So that was nice. 

    Played well in the main i feel, remained in the top 20 fo4 the first hour then slid a little, 

    Went out 102nd, probably could just have folded down too make a min cash but trying too build and win games and run deeper, 

    Anyway rais3d the button with KQs, sb shoves and i call only leaving me 2k behind.

    he had 66 amd they held so that was that.

    well done on winning the last longer hhthfftftftr and coming 8th in the end. Vwp





    12 days.  
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2014
    Cheers Chris.

    FWIW regarding our tangle...Our stacks were similar and pretty short....personally I'd just be jamming KQs on the button. I probably still call with 66, but it's a much trickier decision when I have to call off with it. When you raised the button, you left that little window for me to get my chips in first, and although I knew I was probably getting called, there was still a modest chance you might fold with the bubble fast approaching, which made it an easy jam for me.

    I was winning flips left right and centre last night so don't feel bad that 66 held :)
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014
    In Response to Re: Diary of an Improving Player..... must be improving as i won too all in sats with ease.:
    Cheers Chris. FWIW regarding our tangle...Our stacks were similar and pretty short....personally I'd just be jamming KQs on the button. I probably still call with 66, but it's a much trickier decision when I have to call off with it. When you raised the button, you left that little window for me to get my chips in first, and although I knew I was probably getting called, there was still a modest chance you might fold with the bubble fast approaching, which made it an easy jam for me. I was winning flips left right and centre last night so don't feel bad that 66 held :)
    Posted by hhyftrftdr

    the worst thing is i knew i shouldve shoved pre. I said in my head,  then click the min raise, even though i know if there is a raise or shove im getting them in anyway, 

    Its small things like this that annoy me, but yet keep doing them, 


    Give yourselfs the decision instead of myself!!!
  • hhyftrftdrhhyftrftdr Member Posts: 8,036
    edited November 2014
    That's the thing, if you're just gonna call off a shove anyway then you may as well get them in first and give others the decision. Like I said, I still probably would have called but it would've been much closer. Folding out a flip is never a bad thing!
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014
    Was a good game, i.seem to do ok on the turbo tuesdays, mabye because its the only main i play really.


    Didnt fancy the min cash. Wanted to do what u done and just run deep, altgough 28quid wouldn't be bad because i won 3 sats so a profit 50 quid wouldve been ok i suppose.




    Well a night off for me i think,  going too watch the last LOTR extende cut return of the king.

    Great films, although ive  never read the books, not much of a reader just prefer a good movie.


    "Run shadowfox, show us the meaning of haste"

  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014

    well had a wee break on Wednesday and back on the tables last night, starting Br was around the 50 mark,

    tried a couple of sats for the main... no luck and played some 20 nl, also reged for a 350 BH which I came 3rd on so not too shabby,

    then lost a buy in on the 20 nl took me back down too under 50, tried a few all in sats for the 55 speed BH, no luck there,

    then sat with the remainder of my br at 40nl and took a profit on that, so BR back where it was at the start of the night.

    will post some hands here soon,




    looks like I might me giving HU hypers and speed games a go, never something ive played too seriously...well haven't really took many games too serious, mainly fun as you all know, just trying too make the correct decisions.

    now really looking forward too this, all this from  a post in his diary that's ended here,

  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014
    So these are some of my cash hands, bigger wins and some losses at the bottom,


    hand 1.

    too risky????? with the re raise.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    FORDYCE Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £30.46
    Th1nkerman Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £45.08
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • Q
         
    Chris_Mc Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £22.45
    HAIRMAN1 Call  £0.60 £1.50 £9.20
    STR1BS Fold     
    xxx Raise  £2.70 £4.20 £38.12
    FORDYCE Fold     
    Th1nkerman Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  £2.10 £6.30 £20.35
    HAIRMAN1 Fold     
    Flop
       
    • Q
    • 8
    • 7
         
    Chris_Mc Check     
    xxxxBet  £3.60 £9.90 £34.52
    Chris_Mc Call  £3.60 £13.50 £16.75
    Turn
       
    • A
         
    Chris_Mc Check     
    xxxx Bet  £6.75 £20.25 £27.77
    Chris_Mc All-in  £16.75 £37.00 £0.00
    xxxx Fold     
    Chris_Mc Muck     
    Chris_Mc Win  £25.65  £25.65
    Chris_Mc Return  £10.00 £1.35 £35.65




    hand 2

    although I never seen the turn  with the raise should I just be flatting here?
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    LARSON7 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £58.86
    Chris_Mc Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £36.44
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    POKEY2011 Fold     
    Ronto620 Fold     
    STR1BS Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £39.40
    NoodleMan Raise  £1.80 £2.70 £65.92
    LARSON7 Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  £1.60 £4.30 £34.84
    STR1BS Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 9
    • K
         
    Chris_Mc Bet  £2.15 £6.45 £32.69
    NoodleMan Raise  £6.50 £12.95 £59.42
    Chris_Mc Raise  £11.10 £24.05 £21.59
    NoodleMan Fold     
    Chris_Mc Muck     
    Chris_Mc Win  £16.43  £38.02
    Chris_Mc Return  £6.75
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    LARSON7 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £58.86
    Chris_Mc Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £36.44
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    POKEY2011 Fold     
    Ronto620 Fold     
    STR1BS Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £39.40
    NoodleMan Raise  £1.80 £2.70 £65.92
    LARSON7 Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  £1.60 £4.30 £34.84
    STR1BS Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 9
    • K
         
    Chris_Mc Bet  £2.15 £6.45 £32.69
    NoodleMan Raise  £6.50 £12.95 £59.42
    Chris_Mc Raise  £11.10 £24.05 £21.59
    NoodleMan Fold     
    Chris_Mc Muck     
    Chris_Mc Win  £16.43  £38.02
    Chris_Mc Return  £6.75

    the losing hands.....   not sure im  getting away here no matter what.
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    longman912 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £19.61
    mrmobius Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • A
         
    GARY500 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £23.30
    pearson Raise  £0.70 £1.15 £7.69
    fatchad Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  £0.70 £1.85 £13.16
    longman912 Fold     
    mrmobius Fold     
    GARY500 Call  £0.40 £2.25 £22.90
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • J
    • 10
         
    GARY500 Check     
    pearson Check     
    Chris_Mc Bet  £1.13 £3.38 £12.03
    GARY500 Fold     
    pearson Call  £1.13 £4.51 £6.56
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    pearson Check     
    Chris_Mc Bet  £1.90 £6.41 £10.13
    pearson Call  £1.90 £8.31 £4.66
    River
       
    • K
         
    pearson All-in  £4.66 £12.97 £0.00
    Chris_Mc Call  £4.66 £17.63 £5.47
    pearson Show
    • J
    • J
       
    Chris_Mc Show
    • 10
    • A
       
    pearson Win Full House, Jacks and 10s £16.30  £16.30



     
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    STR1BS Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £100.60
    IllGoAllIn Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £39.60
      Your hole cards
    • K
    • K
         
    FORDYCE Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £15.60
    Th1nkerman Fold     
    Chris_Mc Raise  £2.20 £3.10 £35.07
    POKEY2011 Fold     
    STR1BS Fold     
    IllGoAllIn Fold     
    FORDYCE Raise  £6.30 £9.40 £9.30
    Chris_Mc All-in  £35.07 £44.47 £0.00
    FORDYCE All-in  £9.30 £53.77 £0.00
    Chris_Mc Unmatched bet  £21.07 £32.70 £21.07
    FORDYCE Show
    • 10
    • 10
       
    Chris_Mc Show
    • K
    • K
       
    Flop
       
    • 10
    • 2
    • 6
         
    Turn
       
    • J
         
    River
       
    • 2
         
    FORDYCE Win Full House, 10s and 2s £31.06  £31.06
    Next

    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    longman912 Small blind  £0.05 £0.05 £19.61
    mrmobius Big blind  £0.10 £0.15 £9.90
      Your hole cards
    • 10
    • A
         
    GARY500 Raise  £0.30 £0.45 £23.30
    pearson Raise  £0.70 £1.15 £7.69
    fatchad Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  £0.70 £1.85 £13.16
    longman912 Fold     
    mrmobius Fold     
    GARY500 Call  £0.40 £2.25 £22.90
    Flop
       
    • 4
    • J
    • 10
         
    GARY500 Check     
    pearson Check     
    Chris_Mc Bet  £1.13 £3.38 £12.03
    GARY500 Fold     
    pearson Call  £1.13 £4.51 £6.56
    Turn
       
    • 10
         
    pearson Check     
    Chris_Mc Bet  £1.90 £6.41 £10.13
    pearson Call  £1.90 £8.31 £4.66
    River
       
    • K
         
    pearson All-in  £4.66 £12.97 £0.00
    Chris_Mc Call  £4.66 £17.63 £5.47
    pearson Show
    • J
    • J
       
    Chris_Mc Show
    • 10
    • A
       
    pearson Win Full House, Jacks and 10s £16.30  £16.30
    PlayerActionCardsAmountPotBalance
    LARSON7 Small blind  £0.10 £0.10 £58.86
    Chris_Mc Big blind  £0.20 £0.30 £36.44
      Your hole cards
    • A
    • K
         
    POKEY2011 Fold     
    Ronto620 Fold     
    STR1BS Raise  £0.60 £0.90 £39.40
    NoodleMan Raise  £1.80 £2.70 £65.92
    LARSON7 Fold     
    Chris_Mc Call  £1.60 £4.30 £34.84
    STR1BS Fold     
    Flop
       
    • 8
    • 9
    • K
         
    Chris_Mc Bet  £2.15 £6.45 £32.69
    NoodleMan Raise  £6.50 £12.95 £59.42
    Chris_Mc Raise  £11.10 £24.05 £21.59
    NoodleMan Fold     
    Chris_Mc Muck     
    Chris_Mc Win  £16.43  £38.02
    Chris_Mc Return  £6.75 £0.87 £44.77
  • shakinacesshakinaces Member Posts: 1,590
    edited November 2014
    Hi Chris,

    For the same reason as MrsDuck's thread, I like reading these updates because you aren't just nitting it up with the games you choose to play!

    FWIW that KQ hand I can't say I'm a fan of. You've essentially turned a medium strength hand into a bluff and potentially put yourself in a position to be felted if oppo has decent hand.

    That said, I suppose an A on the turn can be a good card to c/r bluff on. From an initial raiser's point of view it's a good card to barrel on (given that a good chunk of their range should include an A) - so it could follow that if they are going to bluff a lot in that spot, it opens a door for you (in this spot) to bluff back at them.

    Think I'd rather be doing that with hands that don't figure to be good though (as opposed KQ), probably things like T9 or 65 that don't have odds to hit but won't be drawing dead if oppo does have a AA/AQ sort of hand that crushes us.

    As for the others, just UL in the main.  I guess there is a case to be wary about calling 3b with AT, and when villain donk shoves river I don't feel like we're often ahead here, but almost 3/1 odds means I think I'd always be calling.

    GL at the tables!
  • mrsduckmrsduck Member Posts: 1,901
    edited November 2014
    In Response to Re: Diary of an Improving Player..... enjoying cash levels i really shouldnt be playing..... a few hands:
    Hi Chris, For the same reason as MrsDuck's thread, I like reading these updates because you aren't just nitting it up with the games you choose to play! FWIW that KQ hand I can't say I'm a fan of. You've essentially turned a medium strength hand into a bluff and potentially put yourself in a position to be felted if oppo has decent hand. That said, I suppose an A on the turn can be a good card to c/r bluff on. From an initial raiser's point of view it's a good card to barrel on (given that a good chunk of their range should include an A) - so it could follow that if they are going to bluff a lot in that spot, it opens a door for you (in this spot) to bluff back at them. Think I'd rather be doing that with hands that don't figure to be good though (as opposed KQ), probably things like T9 or 65 that don't have odds to hit but won't be drawing dead if oppo does have a AA/AQ sort of hand that crushes us. As for the others, just UL in the main.  I guess there is a case to be wary about calling 3b with AT, and when villain donk shoves river I don't feel like we're often ahead here, but almost 3/1 odds means I think I'd always be calling. GL at the tables!
    Posted by shakinaces

    I'm a changed duck!! (sort of!) :D
    GL Chris! How many days do you think you can hold onto your BR? I think my record's 24 at the moment!! 
    All the best :)

  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited November 2014
    Well, placed an acca on today before going shoe shopping with the wife and the little one.

    So a wee boost too the BR with a 3quid bet.

    Hibs
    Hamilton
    Celtic
    Chelsea 
    Everton
    Man city
    Derby

    Wp.
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited December 2014
    Hello all, how have you all been, 

    Finally im all moved nito my own yes my own not rented house, not too exciting too most but is too me, and my family after a tough 6 months bk with the parents... much rather listen to tikay and concrete than go through that again.

    its great to see the excitment of my little girl running around in her new room, and showing people around when they visit, asking her walls to be painted pink and playing shops :) brings me great joy. Also finally being able to sit on my new couch which has been geting paid off for 5 months in a storage locker....but it is comfy!!! so all good on the homefront apart from my car looking like its been hit by and angry T-REX from a scen from jusrrasic park, but it was just the good lady drinving into the driveway and catching the fence... ahh well. leats it wasn't serious.

    so back too the tables, will make a small deposit and see how long that lasts me.... probally only the night :) not sure what ill do yet, mains are gd on a tuesday cheaper which i like, but how about the £1,000,000 gtd UKPC now thats not too be sniffed at! although my chances of achieving this are pretty slim although why should they be? well id pretty much have too sat from the bottom tier all the way up, which is rather difficult, not for some on the site but for most anyway, still... ill be trying my luck, satted one quarter allready but out with AA 2nd hand in.  :) miby one year!

    so its time too put my feet up enter my 3 digit special number for some poker chips and crack open a beer and watch the rest of rounders

    "your right i dont have ze spade!"

    Gl and see u at the tables!
  • 67Bhoys67Bhoys Member Posts: 2,553
    edited December 2014
    Just want to wish you all the best in your new house Chris, I know you have been looking forward to moving in.  Pity about the car, but these things happen.

    I'll catch up with you on the PLO8 tables.
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited January 2015
    thanks 67BHOYS, yeah its all material things, and see u around the tables. 




    Hi all,

    so not really been online, as much just small spin and go games on coral recently since cashing in the APAT, team online qualifier, we came 7th in the endn which wasnt bad being the team was just put together that day, managed toio last the longest aswell, which i wasnt expecting, but really enjoyed the game and hope for more of these in the future. from the min cash i managed too boost my roll on coral up a bit with the spin and go style games.

    apart from that ive been back playing in a local pub on a tuesday fro the NUTS poker league, not to serious but enjoyable all the same, and playing in the casino on weekday tournies for a little more of a serious game.
    Having got talking to some of players in the pub they where buying in for the 25/25 series at the casino, its £220 BI which is far out my bankroll and wouldnt even think about turning up too play.  then the guys where saying theres a sat' the night before for £23 with £20 add on, this is a little more affordable,  told it would be miby 3 tables not many players so though i'd have go,

    sure enough 58 players and 20 re-entries lol, and went on till 02;45 in the morning, but i made it too the last 12 and got my seat with £2680 in the prizepool won my seat into the biggest live game ive ever played, opted for day 1 on the saturday as working thurs and fri, didnt fancty then.
    then BOOM managed to get too day 2!!!! coming in at 1000/2000 with a 300 ante, and i was coming in with........the shortest stack of 17800 lol.... not good!
    So tip up for day 2 with the hope of rungood! and 4 hands in i was at 102,000, i hit a one outer on the river with 44, a guy gifted me a double up with second pair with flush and straight draws, so great start. with a total of £50,600 in the prizepool was hoping for some more luck.

    then ahove from utg and look at AKc and call happy as i am for him too turn over A4d....4 on the flop and i was half stacked again, AJ AJ twice to put me back too 30k and shove with A8d to be called AJ....this time aj hold and gg for me. but loved every second. my lucky card protector finally lost a flip for my tournament life in 3 days of poker. my chip being the platnum chip from fallout new vegas if any of you are into your games out there. :)


    from that my roll on sky is noow up too the £100mark with some on stars and coral at the minute.

    i have no routine or discapline when it comes too what too play, mastercash on live nights,  deepstacks and minis and mains, i have no BR managment at the minute and this is not good. lat time i was on spewed my last £55 in the 9pm BH because i always wanted a shot of this and 2 hands i was out, nothing wrong i dont think just not a good way too throw my br away.

    so help is needed here, im looking for a routine, and too try and stick at it, either mtt's or cash. i need ideas and someone too help me come up with a plan and too stick at it.

    all ideas welcome and hopefully see u at the tables.
  • TeddyBloatTeddyBloat Member Posts: 1,419
    edited January 2015
    maybe have a 'go to' grind game that you know you are profitable in. maybe it is £2.30 BH's, DYMs 4-10nl whatever. really use those formats to develop your game, and increase you bankroll. place most of your volume and study time there.

    if you have had a nice month / some spare cash then give yourself a few shots at satting into a bigger comp or buy in direct occassionally. if you have an 'entertianment' budget in your life roll and dont fancy a night out, stick the money on line and treat yourelf to a deep run in a bigger buyin then you usually play

    keep it fun and dont auto deny yourself shots. but the best way to grow a b'roll is to stay disciplined. even the best would go broke if they didnt look after their roll.

    glgl
  • LARSON7LARSON7 Member Posts: 4,495
    edited January 2015
    Another excellent post from Teddy.

    Also, another good thing to do if your playing about 7, is enter the UKPC freerolls, if you are close to making the money, just reg the 9:15 game, and if you cash just dereg for a nice £48.

    When I had £100 in my account, I used to one table a master cash 10nl table sittin down with £20 always picking a decent table. Always found 10-12 to be the best times 2 play, or Fri/ Sat night, 11-2.
  • mrsduckmrsduck Member Posts: 1,901
    edited January 2015
    Nice to see you back! Live tournament sounded very exciting! Can't give advice on how to spend your BR lol ;) 
    But have fun with it and GL!
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited January 2015
    Cheers for the replies guys and ducky!

    teddy im not the profitable in any game, but im all over the place all sorts of games whatever i fancy, i would love to play the mains as much as possible and higher buy in BH;s but thats not possible at the minute,

    larson, i think im going to play cash on sky and play something like 2 hour sessions, im not much of a cash player...but i want to be, but i have never enjoyed 4nl, but massivley enjoy mastercash at 20nl level. but i cant afford to pick and choose if im looking to be more serious 

    i play for fun and my br management is poor as said, i feel as if i havent took any sound advice on it or stuck too a plan, so please dont feel im not listning to advice given guys, just been busy with other things like moving house and tend when i do play play a bigger game that cripples my roll :/ 

    like last night for example, i post on my diary saying to control my ations, but just wanted a stab at a bigger game..... and regged main mini and £11 bh...... and didnt go well,

    so for sky ive decided try and focus on cash on sky. i will run between 2-4 tables at a low level, between 4, 8, and 10 nl.

    what advice would u give for this and what materials too watch and read also. 
    i havw money on stars too and think i will play cash on that also and stick to one type of game and really try and focus. and make right decisons, buut mainly try and stick too the plan, i need something like an electric shock of my mouse when clicking on things i shouldnt play, like £33 bh or a £55 lol, 

    so here goes.......
  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited January 2015
    A few questions.

    for the cah players.

    1 How do you go about table selction? as i only normally just point click sit!

    2. how many Buy ins do you allow per session? if not going well.

    3. on other sites should i stick too 6 max or go full ring?

    4. is there much difference from 6max too full ring cash?

    5. sohuld i have a wider range than to standard mtt play OOP?

    i will try a 2 hour session tonight and post hand histories of losing hands or hands i think need looked at.
  • 68Trebor68Trebor Member Posts: 1,944
    edited January 2015

     In my humble opinion.

      1. Avoid the regs and the multi-tablers, look for tables where people aren't playing with the full buy-in as these are probably recreational and possibly blowing the last few quid in their account.

     2. If your playing well, on a good table and only losing due to variance then keep going. If your playing badly, playing tired, tilting then leave.

     3. If you are going to play 6 max on Sky I would stick to 6 max elsewhere. They are very different games.

     4. Yes.

     5. When starting out on your cash journey I would play a pretty tight range and just play ABC poker and remember POSITION IS EVERYTHING.

     Good Luck.
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