Pre-Season (Update) Sky Bet Mercedes 1-2 in Drivers Champs (Hamilton/Rosberg in any order) @ 7/2 - £10 Mercedes F1 to win 8 or more races during the season @ 6/4 - £10 Marussia F1 team to score a point in any of the first four races @ 4/5 - £10 ...LOST Red Bull NOT to finish on podium in any of the first 5 races @ 13/8 - £8...LOST Mercedes to win first 5 races @ 14/1 - £5 ... WON £75 Vettel NOT to win a race in 2014 @ 11/4 - £4 Marussia and Caterham both to score a point during the season @ 6/4 - £4 Williams to finish in top 3 of the Constructors Championship @ 9/4 - £2.50 Felipe Massa to outscore Fernando Alonso (whole season) @ 9/4 - £2.50 Betfred Constructors Championship 2014 Outright Winner: Mercedes @ EVS - £50
Total staked: £106 To be settled: £83 Returned: £75 Profit/Loss: + £57
Pre-Season (Update) Sky Bet Mercedes 1-2 in Drivers Champs (Hamilton/Rosberg in any order) @ 7/2 - £10 Mercedes F1 to win 8 or more races during the season @ 6/4 - £10 Marussia F1 team to score a point in any of the first four races @ 4/5 - £10 ... LOST Red Bull NOT to finish on podium in any of the first 5 races @ 13/8 - £8 ... LOST Mercedes to win first 5 races @ 14/1 - £5 ... WON £75 Vettel NOT to win a race in 2014 @ 11/4 - £4 Marussia and Caterham both to score a point during the season @ 6/4 - £4 Williams to finish in top 3 of the Constructors Championship @ 9/4 - £2.50 Felipe Massa to outscore Fernando Alonso (whole season) @ 9/4 - £2.50 Betfred Constructors Championship 2014 Outright Winner: Mercedes @ EVS - £50 Total staked: £106 To be settled: £83 Returned: £75 Profit/Loss: + £57 Posted by peter27
Bet Victor Points Finish: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/4 - £1 Group B (Alo/Bot/Mas/Rai): Fernando Alonso @ EVS - £1 Group C (Gro/But/Hul/Per): Sergio Perez @ 9/2 - 50p Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 12/5 - £1
Ladbrokes W/O Mercedes: Daniel Ricciardo @ 9/4 - 50p To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/2 - 50p
Sky Bet Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 2/1 - £1
Bwin Number Of Finishers: Exactly 17 @ 13/2 - 50p Caterham Total Finishers: 1 @ 4/3 - 50p Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p Total Safety Car Periods: 3 Or More @ 13/4 - 50p
Coral Not To Finish The Race: Esteban Gutierrez @ EVS - £1 Not To Finish The Race: Daniil Kyvat @ 7/4 - £1 Not To Finish The Race: Sebastian Vettel @ 5/1 - 50p
Total staked: £10.00 To be settled: £10.00 Returned: £0 Profit/Loss: £0
Hi Peter, tidy effort again. Couple of questions..... 1. Would you consider a point staking system??? Should make it easier to track your progress. 2. I know that you don't have a large data sample yet but do you have an idea about which markets you're doing best at?? I would check myself but your scattergun approach is making it hard :-))))) Posted by ff55hh
A point staking system? As in betting 1000 points every race where 1 point is 1p (just an example)? I'm not sure what that would achieve really? Maybe I don't know what you mean - please elaborate :-)
Nope, no idea to be honest - maybe I'll make some statistics on it if I get time though. I do look to set to make great profits on my pre-season bets though! In some ways it's a shame however, because I knew for certain that would be the case, just didn't have the capital to support that. Wanted to put much more than just £50 on Mercedes to win the title at EVS for instance.
Say that your standard stake from a £10 BR is £1. 1pt = £1 Adjust from 0.5 -2pts depending on your perception of value. Double the value of 1pt once your roll is £20. Same at £40 and so on. Should stop your data from being misleading in my opinion Posted by ff55hh
Ahh, I see what you mean!
Although we could just do the calculations to see my most profitable market rather than using a points system - it's about the same amount of work, just either before (points system) or after (manually checking).
I'm not sure that made a whole lot of sense, but I know what I mean haha! Personally, I would rather just deal with cash - the aim is quite simply to make money, so using currency instead of points is something I'm happy with. Having said that, if I were varying my stake from week to week then a points system would be a very viable option :-)
Bet Victor Points Finish: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/4 - £1 Group B (Alo/Bot/Mas/Rai): Fernando Alonso @ EVS - £1 Group C (Gro/But/Hul/Per): Sergio Perez @ 9/2 - 50p Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 12/5 - £1
Ladbrokes W/O Mercedes: Daniel Ricciardo @ 9/4 - 50p To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/2 - 50p ... WON £1.75
Sky Bet Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 2/1 - £1
Bwin Number Of Finishers: Exactly 17 @ 13/2 - 50p Caterham Total Finishers: 1 @ 4/3 - 50p Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p Total Safety Car Periods: 3 Or More @ 13/4 - 50p
Coral Not To Finish The Race: Esteban Gutierrez @ EVS - £1 Not To Finish The Race: Daniil Kyvat @ 7/4 - £1 Not To Finish The Race: Sebastian Vettel @ 5/1 - 50p
Total staked: £10.00 To be settled: £9.50 Returned: £1.75 Profit/Loss: + £1.75
Bet Victor Points Finish: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/4 - £1 ... WON £2.25 Group B (Alo/Bot/Mas/Rai): Fernando Alonso @ EVS - £1 ... WON £2 Group C (Gro/But/Hul/Per): Sergio Perez @ 9/2 - 50p ... LOST Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 12/5 - £1 ... WON £3.40
Ladbrokes W/O Mercedes: Daniel Ricciardo @ 9/4 - 50p ... WON £1.63 To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/2 - 50p ... WON £1.75
Sky Bet Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 2/1 - £1 ... WON £3
Bwin Number Of Finishers: Exactly 17 @ 13/2 - 50p ... LOST Caterham Total Finishers: 1 @ 4/3 - 50p ... LOST Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p ... WON £1.10 Total Safety Car Periods: 3 Or More @ 13/4 - 50p ... LOST
Coral Not To Finish The Race: Esteban Gutierrez @ EVS - £1 ... WON £2 Not To Finish The Race: Daniil Kyvat @ 7/4 - £1 ... WON £2.75 Not To Finish The Race: Sebastian Vettel @ 5/1 - 50p ... WON £3
Total staked: £10.00 To be settled: £0 Returned: £22.88 Profit/Loss: + £12.88
Bet Victor Points Finish: Daniil Kyvat @ 15/8 - £1 To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ EVS - £1 No Points Finish: Kimi Raikkonen @ 9/4 - 50p
Stan James Points Finish: Romain Grosjean @ 2/1 - 50p
Sky Bet Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 15/8 - £1 Hat Trick (Pole, Win, Fastest Lap): Lewis Hamilton @ 9/4 - £1.25
William Hill Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 5/2 - £1
Paddy Power Group C (Bot/Mas/But/Mag): Jenson Button @ 12/5 - 50p Double Points Finish: Force India @ 11/10 - £1 W/O Mercedes: Nico Hulkenberg @ 20/1 - 25p
Bet Victor Points Finish: Daniil Kyvat @ 15/8 - £1 To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ EVS - £1 ... LOST No Points Finish: Kimi Raikkonen @ 9/4 - 50p
Stan James Points Finish: Romain Grosjean @ 2/1 - 50p
Sky Bet Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 15/8 - £1 Hat Trick (Pole, Win, Fastest Lap): Lewis Hamilton @ 9/4 - £1.25 ... LOST
William Hill Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 5/2 - £1
Paddy Power Group C (Bot/Mas/But/Mag): Jenson Button @ 12/5 - 50p Double Points Finish: Force India @ 11/10 - £1 W/O Mercedes: Nico Hulkenberg @ 20/1 - 25p
Just done this in play bet with 11 laps left . Can,t beleive rosberg is still 1.9 with dodgy brakes and a host of cars right behind him
EDIT : Knew i should have backed amount of finishers as its known as a difficult circuit and takes a lot out of the btrakes. Thinkm there down to 15 cars now or less
Bet Victor Points Finish: Daniil Kyvat @ 15/8 - £1 ... LOST To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ EVS - £1 ... LOST No Points Finish: Kimi Raikkonen @ 9/4 - 50p ... LOST
Stan James Points Finish: Romain Grosjean @ 2/1 - 50p ... LOST
Sky Bet Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 15/8 - £1 ... WON £2.88 Hat Trick (Pole, Win, Fastest Lap): Lewis Hamilton @ 9/4 - £1.25 ... LOST
William Hill Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 5/2 - £1 ... WON £3.50
Paddy Power Group C (Bot/Mas/But/Mag): Jenson Button @ 12/5 - 50p ... WON £1.70 Double Points Finish: Force India @ 11/10 - £1 ... LOST W/O Mercedes: Nico Hulkenberg @ 20/1 - 25p ... LOST
Bwin Double Points Finish: McLaren @ 2/1 - £1 ... WON £3.00 Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p ... LOST Sauber Total Finishers: 1 @ 11/10 - 50p ... LOST
Total staked: £10.00 To be settled: £0 Returned: £11.08 Profit/Loss: + £1.08
Just done this in play bet with 11 laps left . Can,t beleive rosberg is still 1.9 with dodgy brakes and a host of cars right behind him EDIT : Knew i should have backed amount of finishers as its known as a difficult circuit and takes a lot out of the btrakes. Thinkm there down to 15 cars now or less Placed (matched) Back (Bet For) Odds Stake Profit Canadian GP http://sn4.cdnbf.net/exchange/page/images/darker_sprite_12260_.png ') 0px -1331px no-repeat transparent" class="inplay">(In-Play) Daniel Ricciardo Winner 12.5 £2.50 £28.75 Ref: 38088075517M Matched: 20:27 08-Jun-14 Posted by MP33
Bet Victor Top 4 Finish: Sergio Perez @ 7/1 - £1 Group B (BOT/HUL/RAI/BUT): Nico Hulkenberg @ 9/4 - £1 Group C (MAL/SUT/GUT/BIA): Pastor Maldonado @ 23/20 - £2
Sky Bet Practice 1 - Winning Driver: Daniel Ricciardo @ 16/1 - 25p Practice 1 - Winning Driver: Sebastian Vettel @ 16/1 - 25p
Bwin Double Points Finish: Force India @ 6/5 - £1
William Hill Group 4 (VER/KVY/GRO/MAL): Daniil Kvyat @ 13/8 - £1
Total staked: £8.50 To be settled: £8.50 Returned: £0 Profit/Loss: £0
Still got £1.50 more to play with this weekend, will probably use it pre-qualifying.
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Race 5: Spain (In-Play)
William Hill
Pole Position: Nico Rosberg @ 11/10 - £2.50
Sky Bet
Mercedes 1-2 in Drivers Champs (Hamilton/Rosberg in any order) @ 7/2 - £10
Mercedes F1 to win 8 or more races during the season @ 6/4 - £10
Marussia F1 team to score a point in any of the first four races @ 4/5 - £10 ... LOST
Red Bull NOT to finish on podium in any of the first 5 races @ 13/8 - £8 ... LOST
Mercedes to win first 5 races @ 14/1 - £5 ... WON £75
Vettel NOT to win a race in 2014 @ 11/4 - £4
Marussia and Caterham both to score a point during the season @ 6/4 - £4
Williams to finish in top 3 of the Constructors Championship @ 9/4 - £2.50
Felipe Massa to outscore Fernando Alonso (whole season) @ 9/4 - £2.50
Betfred
Constructors Championship 2014 Outright Winner: Mercedes @ EVS - £50
Total staked: £106
To be settled: £83
Returned: £75
Profit/Loss: + £57
Paddy Power
Podium Finish: Sebastian Vettel @ 7/4 - £0.50 ... LOST
Bet Victor
Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 13/5 - £1 ... LOST
Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 6/5 - £1 ... LOST
Bet365
Number Of Finishers: 18 or 19 @ 11/4 - £2 ... LOST
Bwin
Race Leaders: Over 2.5 @ 12/5 - £1 ... LOST
Fernando Alonso Practice One Top 3 Finish: No @ 17/11 - £2 ... WON £5.10
William Hill
Pole Position: Nico Rosberg @ 11/10 - £2.50 ... LOST
Lost money on the race sadly, but I did win £75 for Mercedes winning the first five races of the season, so happy at that (see the post above).
Total staked: £10
To be settled: £0
Returned: £5.10
Profit/Loss: - £4.90
Monaco bets will be up shortly.
Bet Victor
Points Finish: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/4 - £1
Group B (Alo/Bot/Mas/Rai): Fernando Alonso @ EVS - £1
Group C (Gro/But/Hul/Per): Sergio Perez @ 9/2 - 50p
Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 12/5 - £1
Ladbrokes
W/O Mercedes: Daniel Ricciardo @ 9/4 - 50p
To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/2 - 50p
Sky Bet
Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 2/1 - £1
Bwin
Number Of Finishers: Exactly 17 @ 13/2 - 50p
Caterham Total Finishers: 1 @ 4/3 - 50p
Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p
Total Safety Car Periods: 3 Or More @ 13/4 - 50p
Coral
Not To Finish The Race: Esteban Gutierrez @ EVS - £1
Not To Finish The Race: Daniil Kyvat @ 7/4 - £1
Not To Finish The Race: Sebastian Vettel @ 5/1 - 50p
Total staked: £10.00
To be settled: £10.00
Returned: £0
Profit/Loss: £0
Nope, no idea to be honest - maybe I'll make some statistics on it if I get time though. I do look to set to make great profits on my pre-season bets though! In some ways it's a shame however, because I knew for certain that would be the case, just didn't have the capital to support that. Wanted to put much more than just £50 on Mercedes to win the title at EVS for instance.
Although we could just do the calculations to see my most profitable market rather than using a points system - it's about the same amount of work, just either before (points system) or after (manually checking).
I'm not sure that made a whole lot of sense, but I know what I mean haha! Personally, I would rather just deal with cash - the aim is quite simply to make money, so using currency instead of points is something I'm happy with. Having said that, if I were varying my stake from week to week then a points system would be a very viable option :-)
Bet Victor
Points Finish: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/4 - £1
Group B (Alo/Bot/Mas/Rai): Fernando Alonso @ EVS - £1
Group C (Gro/But/Hul/Per): Sergio Perez @ 9/2 - 50p
Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 12/5 - £1
Ladbrokes
W/O Mercedes: Daniel Ricciardo @ 9/4 - 50p
To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/2 - 50p ... WON £1.75
Sky Bet
Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 2/1 - £1
Bwin
Number Of Finishers: Exactly 17 @ 13/2 - 50p
Caterham Total Finishers: 1 @ 4/3 - 50p
Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p
Total Safety Car Periods: 3 Or More @ 13/4 - 50p
Coral
Not To Finish The Race: Esteban Gutierrez @ EVS - £1
Not To Finish The Race: Daniil Kyvat @ 7/4 - £1
Not To Finish The Race: Sebastian Vettel @ 5/1 - 50p
Total staked: £10.00
To be settled: £9.50
Returned: £1.75
Profit/Loss: + £1.75
Bet Victor
Points Finish: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/4 - £1 ... WON £2.25
Group B (Alo/Bot/Mas/Rai): Fernando Alonso @ EVS - £1 ... WON £2
Group C (Gro/But/Hul/Per): Sergio Perez @ 9/2 - 50p ... LOST
Race Winner: Nico Rosberg @ 12/5 - £1 ... WON £3.40
Ladbrokes
W/O Mercedes: Daniel Ricciardo @ 9/4 - 50p ... WON £1.63
To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ 5/2 - 50p ... WON £1.75
Sky Bet
Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 2/1 - £1 ... WON £3
Bwin
Number Of Finishers: Exactly 17 @ 13/2 - 50p ... LOST
Caterham Total Finishers: 1 @ 4/3 - 50p ... LOST
Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p ... WON £1.10
Total Safety Car Periods: 3 Or More @ 13/4 - 50p ... LOST
Coral
Not To Finish The Race: Esteban Gutierrez @ EVS - £1 ... WON £2
Not To Finish The Race: Daniil Kyvat @ 7/4 - £1 ... WON £2.75
Not To Finish The Race: Sebastian Vettel @ 5/1 - 50p ... WON £3
Total staked: £10.00
To be settled: £0
Returned: £22.88
Profit/Loss: + £12.88
Bet Victor
Points Finish: Daniil Kyvat @ 15/8 - £1
To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ EVS - £1
No Points Finish: Kimi Raikkonen @ 9/4 - 50p
Stan James
Points Finish: Romain Grosjean @ 2/1 - 50p
Sky Bet
Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 15/8 - £1
Hat Trick (Pole, Win, Fastest Lap): Lewis Hamilton @ 9/4 - £1.25
William Hill
Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 5/2 - £1
Paddy Power
Group C (Bot/Mas/But/Mag): Jenson Button @ 12/5 - 50p
Double Points Finish: Force India @ 11/10 - £1
W/O Mercedes: Nico Hulkenberg @ 20/1 - 25p
Bwin
Double Points Finish: McLaren @ 2/1 - £1
Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p
Sauber Total Finishers: 1 @ 11/10 - 50p
Total staked: £10.00
To be settled: £10.00
Returned: £0
Profit/Loss: £0
Bet Victor
Points Finish: Daniil Kyvat @ 15/8 - £1
To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ EVS - £1 ... LOST
No Points Finish: Kimi Raikkonen @ 9/4 - 50p
Stan James
Points Finish: Romain Grosjean @ 2/1 - 50p
Sky Bet
Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 15/8 - £1
Hat Trick (Pole, Win, Fastest Lap): Lewis Hamilton @ 9/4 - £1.25 ... LOST
William Hill
Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 5/2 - £1
Paddy Power
Group C (Bot/Mas/But/Mag): Jenson Button @ 12/5 - 50p
Double Points Finish: Force India @ 11/10 - £1
W/O Mercedes: Nico Hulkenberg @ 20/1 - 25p
Bwin
Double Points Finish: McLaren @ 2/1 - £1
Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p
Sauber Total Finishers: 1 @ 11/10 - 50p
Total staked: £10.00
To be settled: £10.00
Returned: £0
Profit/Loss: £0
Placed (matched)
Bet Victor
Points Finish: Daniil Kyvat @ 15/8 - £1 ... LOST
To Reach Qualifying Session Three: Kevin Magnussen @ EVS - £1 ... LOST
No Points Finish: Kimi Raikkonen @ 9/4 - 50p ... LOST
Stan James
Points Finish: Romain Grosjean @ 2/1 - 50p ... LOST
Sky Bet
Top 6 Finish: Nico Hulkenberg @ 15/8 - £1 ... WON £2.88
Hat Trick (Pole, Win, Fastest Lap): Lewis Hamilton @ 9/4 - £1.25 ... LOST
William Hill
Top 6 Finish: Jenson Button @ 5/2 - £1 ... WON £3.50
Paddy Power
Group C (Bot/Mas/But/Mag): Jenson Button @ 12/5 - 50p ... WON £1.70
Double Points Finish: Force India @ 11/10 - £1 ... LOST
W/O Mercedes: Nico Hulkenberg @ 20/1 - 25p ... LOST
Bwin
Double Points Finish: McLaren @ 2/1 - £1 ... WON £3.00
Lotus Total Finishers: 1 @ 6/5 - 50p ... LOST
Sauber Total Finishers: 1 @ 11/10 - 50p ... LOST
Total staked: £10.00
To be settled: £0
Returned: £11.08
Profit/Loss: + £1.08
Bet365
Number Of Finishers: Over 18 @ 2/1 - £2
Bet Victor
Top 4 Finish: Sergio Perez @ 7/1 - £1
Group B (BOT/HUL/RAI/BUT): Nico Hulkenberg @ 9/4 - £1
Group C (MAL/SUT/GUT/BIA): Pastor Maldonado @ 23/20 - £2
Sky Bet
Practice 1 - Winning Driver: Daniel Ricciardo @ 16/1 - 25p
Practice 1 - Winning Driver: Sebastian Vettel @ 16/1 - 25p
Bwin
Double Points Finish: Force India @ 6/5 - £1
William Hill
Group 4 (VER/KVY/GRO/MAL): Daniil Kvyat @ 13/8 - £1
Total staked: £8.50
To be settled: £8.50
Returned: £0
Profit/Loss: £0
Still got £1.50 more to play with this weekend, will probably use it pre-qualifying.