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New SnG promotion

CraigSG1CraigSG1 Member Posts: 1,832
edited January 2015 in Poker Chat
Just wanted to say a BIG well done to Sky. A lot of people wanted a SnG promotion and I have to say they have really knocked it out of the park with this one. Its a great promotion that everyone has a chance at!

I dont play many SnG on Sky as they dont have a lot of traffic but I will certainly go for this.
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  • chicknMeltchicknMelt Member Posts: 1,159
    edited March 2014
    It does look decent.

    I only see one flaw. Maybe it isn't a flaw, but I'd have it so that your best 30 stake streak counts. At the moment, if someone smashes it in the first 30 games they won't play any more for fear of ruining their roi.

    We should at least see a lot more traffic in the smallest stakes. A tiered approach to stakes would improve traffic for all stakes.


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  • rainman397rainman397 Member Posts: 1,394
    edited March 2014
    In Response to New SnG promotion:
    Just wanted to say a BIG well done to Sky. A lot of people wanted a SnG promotion and I have to say they have really knocked it out of the park with this one. Its a great promotion that everyone has a chance at! I dont play many SnG on Sky as they dont have a lot of traffic but I will certainly go for this.
    Posted by CraigSG1
    Good morning Craig
    What promotion is this, i cannot see any information on it.
    All the best
    Rainman397
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  • JockBMWJockBMW Member Posts: 2,653
    edited March 2014
    Does it apply to any SNG or just standard format?
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  • Sky_SamSky_Sam Member Posts: 738
    edited March 2014
    Morning Rainman,

    It's called 'Skill and Go' - for all the details, click here!

    Cheers.
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  • MattBatesMattBates Member Posts: 4,118
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    Morning Rainman, It's called 'Skill and Go' - for all the details,  click here! Cheers.
    Posted by Sky_Sam
    Sam

    Can promotions get announced in the forum as well as on the promotions page (and twitter/facebook/whatever the young kids use these days!)?

    Matt
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  • ACEGOONERACEGOONER Member Posts: 1,435
    edited March 2014
    The principle is commendable especially as most of the promos on the site are cash focused at the moment.

    However, if you run insanely well (as has been pointed out by chicknmelt) there is absolutely no incentive to go beyond 30 games as its highly likely your roi wont improve in fact with a larger sample size it will probably get worse. 

    If the idea was to generate more action on sngs, I dont think this will have the desired effect. A rake race along the lines of the cash promos could easily have been put in place and linked to buyin levels eg less than £20 , £20-£49 and £50 upwards. A leaderboard could easily be published every day. 

    SNG action would then have been much higher than will be the case for this promo. 
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  • rainman397rainman397 Member Posts: 1,394
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    Morning Rainman, It's called 'Skill and Go' - for all the details,  click here! Cheers.
    Posted by Sky_Sam
    Good morning Sam.
    Thank you for reply, will have a go at this.
    All the best
    Rainman397.
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  • Sky_SamSky_Sam Member Posts: 738
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion : Sam Can promotions get announced in the forum as well as on the promotions page (and twitter/facebook/whatever the young kids use these days!)? Matt
    Posted by MattBates
    Of course, Sir! We generally stagger these kind of things, you'll see it cropping up in various places on the website/social channels over the weekend.

    Cheers.
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  • tomo_efctomo_efc Member Posts: 716
    edited March 2014
    So it's only 6 max, not any sit @ go, like dym...
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    So it's only 6 max, not any sit @ go, like dym...
    Posted by tomo_efc
    The promo page indicates it's for any sng... unless they're reducing the payout for a standard sng to less than double the buy-in.

    The confusion is coming from Sky's unusual use of the term "6-max" to refer to standard, play-to-a-winner sng's.
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  • TommyDTommyD Member Posts: 4,389
    edited March 2014
    One of the best promos I've seen on here.  Really looking forward to this.

    Really do not get the thinking behind this 'what if someone gets off to a flyer'. You're really looking for problems in nothing.  If someone crushes early and wants to lock up, fair enough.  Good luck to them.  There are 6 seats and poker rarely works so easily.  The SNG player pool needs a boost but you can't just jump it to huge levels, this is gauged just right.  Having concerns about someone crushing early is like saying only 2 of the 5 goals Spurs will score in the first half tomorrow will count as to not ruin the second half.

    Whoever came up with the promo, very good work!
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  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    The principle is commendable especially as most of the promos on the site are cash focused at the moment. However, if you run insanely well (as has been pointed out by chicknmelt) there is absolutely no incentive to go beyond 30 games as its highly likely your roi wont improve in fact with a larger sample size it will probably get worse.  If the idea was to generate more action on sngs, I dont think this will have the desired effect. A rake race along the lines of the cash promos could easily have been put in place and linked to buyin levels eg less than £20 , £20-£49 and £50 upwards. A leaderboard could easily be published every day.  SNG action would then have been much higher than will be the case for this promo. 
    Posted by ACEGOONER
    Yes it generates more rake but rec's will stop playing.
    The last time they ran this type of sit and go's promo I stopped playing after 1 day.No chance of competing with 10+ table players and sick of having the same 4-5 players on every table.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    The principle is commendable especially as most of the promos on the site are cash focused at the moment. However, if you run insanely well (as has been pointed out by chicknmelt) there is absolutely no incentive to go beyond 30 games as its highly likely your roi wont improve in fact with a larger sample size it will probably get worse.  If the idea was to generate more action on sngs, I dont think this will have the desired effect. A rake race along the lines of the cash promos could easily have been put in place and linked to buyin levels eg less than £20 , £20-£49 and £50 upwards. A leaderboard could easily be published every day.  SNG action would then have been much higher than will be the case for this promo. 
    Posted by ACEGOONER
    I don't agree, Gooner. This promo should be a lot better to encourage SNG action in the long-run. It also favours the standard SNG's which ought to encourage players to play them, due to the better potential ROI.

    If the promo was aimed solely as a rake race, we all know the result would be that anyone who could play 12 hour days would win and the top six places would be unattainable for low volume players.


    Many have suggested a Battle of the planets style promotion and this one does mirror that quite closely. It's a good thing.

    There are one or two issues:


    First is the fact that it's not over the course of segmented numbers of games, as others have said.

    The second problem is that it's only a short-term promotion. To encourage long-term pick-up in the SNG numbers, it should be a continuous, short-period reward system. Hopefully that will be a possibility if this promotion is a success. Obviously to make it permanent would probably require a smaller payout.
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  • Chris_McChris_Mc Member Posts: 1,340
    edited March 2014
    Id love a go at this. 

    But nit too clued up on the roi thing.
    if I play 30 at 3.30 and 30 at 11. Would there be a diffrence if I cashed everyone 
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  • belsibubbelsibub Member Posts: 2,527
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    It does look decent. I only see one flaw. Maybe it isn't a flaw, but I'd have it so that your best 30 stake streak counts. At the moment, if someone smashes it in the first 30 games they won't play any more for fear of ruining their roi. We should at least see a lot more traffic in the smallest stakes. A tiered approach to stakes would improve traffic for all stakes.
    Posted by chicknMelt
    £3.30 or over(for dym's) as rake is higher in micro's & would kill your roi.
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  • tomo_efctomo_efc Member Posts: 716
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion : The promo page indicates it's for any sng... unless they're reducing the payout for a standard sng to less than double the buy-in. The confusion is coming from Sky's unusual use of the term "6-max" to refer to standard, play-to-a-winner sng's.
    Posted by BorinLoner
     

    Thanks for the reply B L, sorry but i'm a bit confused, if you play a £5 dym and finnish 3rd is that classed as a win as you are winning the same cash as the winner ?.
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    Id love a go at this.  But nit too clued up on the roi thing. if I play 30 at 3.30 and 30 at 11. Would there be a diffrence if I cashed everyone 
    Posted by Chris_Mc
    ROI would be the same regardless of buy-in, except where the site fee is different, relative to the buy-in.

    I think the micro-stakes dym's have higher fees so the ROI would be lower.

    You can look at the ROI calculation on the promo page.


    It'll be interesting to see if a DYM player can manage to win this. Sky's standard SNG's don't pay out a very top-heavy winner anymore, so...
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion :   Thanks for the reply B L, sorry but i'm a bit confused, if you play a £5 dym and finnish 3rd is that classed as a win as you are winning the same cash as the winner ?.
    Posted by tomo_efc
    Yep, a third is a win. The ROI is exactly the same for third as for first and that's what the promo is based on.
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  • tomo_efctomo_efc Member Posts: 716
    edited March 2014
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion:
    In Response to Re: New SnG promotion : Yep, a third is a win. The ROI is exactly the same for third as for first and that's what the promo is based on.
    Posted by BorinLoner
    Thanks m8 that will do me..
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  • BorinLonerBorinLoner Member Posts: 3,863
    edited March 2014
    By the way, I don't work for Sky.

    If any of these things are wrong, don't blame me. Blame sky. They're used to it. :)
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